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    YAYS!! I gots a new frame what year is it?

    Do we have any Kuwahara experts here, i finally found a frame that fits all my needs. As it turns out my old Raleigh was a 16" frame i never actually measured it but oh well, I picked this up for 12 bucks plus 5 for the vintage suntour derailleur. Its much more my size at 19.5" Its a Kuwahara Panther no idea what year but its gonna be an easy swap the head tube is even the same length as my raleigh so once i strip the paint and repaint do the 1" threadless swap she will be all done and ill update pics. Future thanks for any info on year.


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    I like the white stem and yellow fork. I would have made you pay extra for those sweet color accents. j/k Maybe I should try and sell some frames I have lying around for some cash.

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    You might as well im sure theres tons of people like me that refuse to buy an already built bike, yeah the yellow forks and white stem were the selling points

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    You are empowering me. I am going to to throw up 10+ frames on CL in the coming weeks. I will probably be seriously thrilled if I get $10 for each one. a couple of years I sold a mountin bike frame to a guy who wanted it for a single-speed conversion. I had sold a couple of bikes to him and to a bunch of his friends even one to his pastor LOL. I think I got $20 for that frame. That was a great deal for me. I wonder if the cold season is a good time to sell frames when people want to do tinkering...I would lie some bike money to do some of my projects and clean out he garage. =)

    Just for fun I was checking out these Kuwahara bikes on Google and it seems like they were mostly made in the 80's. Its always fun to look up old bikes to see what the history is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monsterpile View Post
    Just for fun I was checking out these Kuwahara bikes on Google and it seems like they were mostly made in the 80's. Its always fun to look up old bikes to see what the history is.
    Pretty cool history at that. Now you need to find one of these!

    http://www.dreamgate.ne.jp/kuwahara/history/et.html
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    I just love the old steel mtb frames the things last for ever. I think im just gonna do some searching and find a cheat sheet for kuwahara serial numbers. Its gonna be awesome drop bar kuwahara

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    Quote Originally Posted by monsterpile View Post
    You are empowering me. I am going to to throw up 10+ frames on CL in the coming weeks. I will probably be seriously thrilled if I get $10 for each one. a couple of years I sold a mountin bike frame to a guy who wanted it for a single-speed conversion. I had sold a couple of bikes to him and to a bunch of his friends even one to his pastor LOL. I think I got $20 for that frame. That was a great deal for me. I wonder if the cold season is a good time to sell frames when people want to do tinkering...I would lie some bike money to do some of my projects and clean out he garage. =)

    Just for fun I was checking out these Kuwahara bikes on Google and it seems like they were mostly made in the 80's. Its always fun to look up old bikes to see what the history is.
    Also theres always ebay i cleaned out a foot locker of old parts on ebay over the last couple of months so far ive made almost 300 bucks, im not sure what some people do with some of old junk ive sold em but they cant seem to get enough of the "vintage" stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by monsterpile View Post
    You are empowering me. I am going to to throw up 10+ frames on CL in the coming weeks. I will probably be seriously thrilled if I get $10 for each one. a couple of years I sold a mountin bike frame to a guy who wanted it for a single-speed conversion. I had sold a couple of bikes to him and to a bunch of his friends even one to his pastor LOL. I think I got $20 for that frame. That was a great deal for me. I wonder if the cold season is a good time to sell frames when people want to do tinkering...I would lie some bike money to do some of my projects and clean out he garage. =)

    Just for fun I was checking out these Kuwahara bikes on Google and it seems like they were mostly made in the 80's. Its always fun to look up old bikes to see what the history is.
    I've always done well with selling frames locally on craigslist, sometimes for more than I paid for the entire bike. In this area there's no shortage of people looking for a project frame. I've only had one frame that didn't sell on the first day, but that one was gone in less than a week.

    I think it helps to post a photo of the complete bike for inspiration, but it can confuse some potential buyers who choose to ignore the description and frame-only photos.

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    I have had bad luck on Ebay. I sold some stuff and in general have had a bad experience. Plus its a paid to box stuff up and ship it. I would rather just sell it locally. If nothing else I just claim its more green or something. LOL Of course there are bad experiences on CL too mostly people not showing up or the occasional person that is all pissy because they claim you sold the item out from under them which has never been the case.

    Chris what sorts of frames did you sell and what price did you put on them? I am not looking for a ton of cash, but I would like to to make it worth my time to even sell them. I guess $20 sounds really good (anything more would be great) for most of them and $10 each would be fine I guess. I just spent time/learned how to put up nice pics via craigslist. (it was easy duh) and so now I figure some stuff should sell quicker. I wish I could get that Cannondale R900 sold...

    Fizzaly between you and sixty-fiver inspiring me. I really want to do a drop bar mountain bike project. I have plenty of frames for it. LOL I have a couple of projects in the way though. I am getting antsy to work on that though. Oh well and I just picked up some more bikes to work on today. Its hard to turn down a free bike that doesn't need much work and has good tires.

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    Im telling ya drop bar mtb are the best of both worlds

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    Quote Originally Posted by monsterpile View Post
    I have had bad luck on Ebay. I sold some stuff and in general have had a bad experience. Plus its a paid to box stuff up and ship it. I would rather just sell it locally. If nothing else I just claim its more green or something. LOL Of course there are bad experiences on CL too mostly people not showing up or the occasional person that is all pissy because they claim you sold the item out from under them which has never been the case.

    Chris what sorts of frames did you sell and what price did you put on them? I am not looking for a ton of cash, but I would like to to make it worth my time to even sell them. I guess $20 sounds really good (anything more would be great) for most of them and $10 each would be fine I guess. I just spent time/learned how to put up nice pics via craigslist. (it was easy duh) and so now I figure some stuff should sell quicker. I wish I could get that Cannondale R900 sold...

    Fizzaly between you and sixty-fiver inspiring me. I really want to do a drop bar mountain bike project. I have plenty of frames for it. LOL I have a couple of projects in the way though. I am getting antsy to work on that though. Oh well and I just picked up some more bikes to work on today. Its hard to turn down a free bike that doesn't need much work and has good tires.
    I sold a Specialized Crossroads hybrid frame and a Kabuki SSK for around $50 each, both were steel frames in good condition, but nothing special. I also sold a Peugeot which was a nicer frame than the other two, but the paint was pretty bad. I think I got $30 for that one. I don't think I'd have as much luck with MTB frames, but people want road bikes.

    I just added drop bars to my Rockhopper this week, planning to pound out some miles on it this weekend.


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    Thanks for the input on the frames. I'll throw a couple of them up and see what happens. I guess just a selling a frame I can save someone time taking all that useless stuff off if they are going single speed or whatever. Some people pay for less stuff.

    I have picked out everything for my drop bar mountain bike project. I'll get started on it Sunday. I am more excited about doing that than the other projects so I will do it first. I am excited to be doing something with this Schwinn Paramount frame I have had for years. I almost had it built up as a decent MTB years ago, but then I bought my WCF Diamondback and that project ended. I'll post some before pictures Sunday of the pile of parts before I get started.

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    I got busy Sunday and so I didn't get started till today on my drop bar project. Here is the promised pic of the pieces. The wheels are my backup commuter set I just put together. I have a saddle in mind and have to locate a seat post in my parts pile, but that stuff is overrated. LOL




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    Very cool, is that a Paramount MTB frame? What shifters do you plan to use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fizzaly View Post
    Do we have any Kuwahara experts here, i finally found a frame that fits all my needs.
    I think Sixty-fiver would know. You may want to ask him.

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    Yeah its a Schwinn Paramount MTB frame. I have some old shimano thumbshifters I am going to try mounting on the drop bars right under the brake levers. I posted my progress of the bike in the commuting pics thread if you want to check it out. I like how its coming together so far. Here is the link to the Schwinn Catalog for this bike when it was new. I wish the frame was in better shape some of the cable stops are busted off.

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    According to fivers info im lead to believe its an 87 kuwahara ive got the paint stripped but im having a hell of a time removing the drive side bb cup, gonna try again this afternoon, i really dont want to have to break the torch out just to get it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fizzaly View Post
    According to fivers info im lead to believe its an 87 kuwahara ive got the paint stripped but im having a hell of a time removing the drive side bb cup, gonna try again this afternoon, i really dont want to have to break the torch out just to get it out.
    My technique is to use a big "monkey wrench." In the rare cases where I can't get enough leverage, I clamp the flats lightly in a bench vise and use the frame for leverage.


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    Ive tried that, my problem is the flats were not in good shape when i started and now they are pretty much round. I think im gonna drill two holes in it and use a "prong" style wrench i have, it has like an 18" inch handle so thats all the leverage ill need

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    Darn it, got her all taken apart painted and started to put the new bottom bracket in and get the small assembly stuff out of the way so i can do the swap on my day off, and then it hit me, this frame doesn't have a derailleur hanger. I have no idea how i missed that, wasn't able to score one at LBS so i ordered one will be here later this week

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    What type of paint do you use and what method? Right now I am planning to use one of the various colors of Rustoleum in cans (not spray paint) I have sitting around if I ever decide to paint a frame which I would like to do. Most of the time I prefer to just clean and shine up the old paint on bikes because its easier. Besides I love vintage looking stuff and it sells good too.
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    I generally get auto paint put into bomb cans at the paint store, on this one which ill put some pics up later i used a gray base coat with "metal" color top, kinda looks like aluminum foil. On the head tube below the top coat i put down some gloss black for decal purposes and the forks i havent done yet as those are still on my daily
    To remove the paint lately ive been using a stripper orange based, used to media blast everything but my compressor broke so no more air for now

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    I am really looking forward to seeing how that bike turns out. I have a Specialized mountain bike frame (Hard Rock or Rockhopper can't remember which) that was converted to track ends that I bought and its totally bare and thats how it was when I acquired it. Its such a blank canvas with so many options I can't figure out how I want to build it up and what colors/schemes I would want to paint it. I suppose its a good problem to have.
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    For sure, one of these days im gonna all out on a paint scheme, but im boring and like simple paint jobs, this one though i might even go two tone on the forks

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