Heavy Hauling Fail
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Over the years i have carried heavy loads on the bike, and by trailer. For me the trailer wins hands down.
Here's two that I've made....
The single wheel trailer is more complicated and has lower weight capacity but it's faster for the same load.
Unless you're hauling hundreds of pounds at a time you don't need a heavy duty cargo trailer, the kid's trailers are remarkably versatile, and weatherproof! it's amazing how much weight and bulk of groceries you can fit in one of these...
Of course, if you have some serious hauling to do there's always......
That large cargo platform folds up when not in use.....
If you're handy with a welder DIY at this level is a lot of fun!
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I don't do a lot of grocery shopping on a bike, mostly walking and bus, but you are right that weight distribution is a key. I toured with 50 lbs split between four panniers on a folding bike and it felt very stable.
Trailer seems like a great idea for larger loads. You could also try those kind of shopping panniers and see how they work for you. I have this one: https://www.mec.ca/Products/product_d...34374302693353 , but I've seem other makes as well. This particular bag folds flat and secures with little velcro straps, so it stays folded. It also has a hard bottom part, which is great when you want to carry more fragile things and not squish them. Works better than a regular pannier for me.
You may want to start slow, shop more often and get less stuff. You will develop your own packing technique the more you do it.
Trailer seems like a great idea for larger loads. You could also try those kind of shopping panniers and see how they work for you. I have this one: https://www.mec.ca/Products/product_d...34374302693353 , but I've seem other makes as well. This particular bag folds flat and secures with little velcro straps, so it stays folded. It also has a hard bottom part, which is great when you want to carry more fragile things and not squish them. Works better than a regular pannier for me.
You may want to start slow, shop more often and get less stuff. You will develop your own packing technique the more you do it.
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I'm not car free but I do a lot of my grocery shopping using my Big Dummy. It sure beats finding places to park and I can haul a lot with it.
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Although that was definitely a lot of weight, I think it was more likely the nature of the load that threw you off. Large amounts of liquid slosh around while being transported and will easily upset a bicycle's center of balance. That's why truck drivers who haul tankers need special licensing (at least they do where I live). You would definitely need to carry a load like that low on the bike, or better yet get a trailer like others here have suggested, especially if you're truly going car-free.
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The Cross Check is not designed to carry much weight on the front. It has the wrong front-end geometry. The added weight will have adverse effects on the handling.
Just because you can mount a rack on the fork, doesn't mean the the bike will carry a lot of weight well there. A few pounds would probably be fine. Thirty-five would asking for trouble--especially 35 pounds that slosh.
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the Big Dummy can easily handle that load.
or a trailer...
or address the situation from the other side of the equation.
i.e. why do you have to haul the payload? maybe you can simply circumvent the entire situation.
water?
drink tap water, and use a filter?
i.e. https://www.clear2o.com/
or a trailer...
or address the situation from the other side of the equation.
i.e. why do you have to haul the payload? maybe you can simply circumvent the entire situation.
water?
drink tap water, and use a filter?
i.e. https://www.clear2o.com/
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So I ran a couple of errands yesterday for the first time on my new Surly Cross Check with front and rear Surly Nice racks and an Ortlieb Sport Packer Plus on the front left. I went to the bank deposited a checks, I went to the post office, dropped off two packages.
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Load heavy objects low. Balance your weight distribution side-to-side. Split your front/rear weight distribution 30/70ish... (this is MY rough estimate based on nothing other than personal opinion and limited experience).
Why haul cardboard boxes home from the store, when 90% of the time you're going to throw the box and plastic wrap away when you get home? If you need the boxes to strap the stuff on top, that's fine... but it's amazing how much you can fit into a pannier when you ditch unnecessary packaging.
IMO, if you had broken down one of the flats, and filled your panniers with individual bottles, then strapped the second flat on top, you'd have been fine.
Also: Why try to take both multipacks in the same trip?
I noted the OP was running a single front pannier. I've gotten away with running a single rear pannier filled with a change of clothes. But I'd never use just one when my load was heavy, and I'd never try an imbalanced load of any weight on a front rack.
Why haul cardboard boxes home from the store, when 90% of the time you're going to throw the box and plastic wrap away when you get home? If you need the boxes to strap the stuff on top, that's fine... but it's amazing how much you can fit into a pannier when you ditch unnecessary packaging.
IMO, if you had broken down one of the flats, and filled your panniers with individual bottles, then strapped the second flat on top, you'd have been fine.
Also: Why try to take both multipacks in the same trip?
I noted the OP was running a single front pannier. I've gotten away with running a single rear pannier filled with a change of clothes. But I'd never use just one when my load was heavy, and I'd never try an imbalanced load of any weight on a front rack.
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I used to be car(e) free back in the early 80's. I personally wouldn't even think of doing car-lite/free without at least a trailer. Now I have an Xtracycle and a Burley trailer. I would like to go car free again, but, the Boss Lady seems to think I should keep the Truck.
The key is to keep the center of gravity as low as possible, especially with heavier items. The trailer helps a lot in that respect. The Xtracycle is no slouch in that department either.
The key is to keep the center of gravity as low as possible, especially with heavier items. The trailer helps a lot in that respect. The Xtracycle is no slouch in that department either.
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BTW, when we used our tandem as our commute vehicle we almost always carried our things in a single front pannier - never noticed any issue with it.
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it's a Cross-Check, not a LHT or utility bike. Just because your racks can hold X lbs doesn't mean the bike/wheels should(depends on your weight also) . Next time put the front panniers on the lower rail and all the water down low. Simply plopping all the weight on top of the rack makes it ungainly. And like everyone else said for loads like that get a trailer. I carried that much weight in books on a LHT with it in the panniers and two milkcrates, handled fine.
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Balancing your load is key. By the way, the pics of multiple water jugs and the frig seem to be from China, and the bikes appear to be Flying Pigeons. Old tech steel, single/ three speed utility bikes....... Tim