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    Hate Comments

    I am more interested to the comments than the actual article. Seems like cyclist are not really welcomed by both cars and pedestrians:
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAV51GL1PU.DTL


    To the bikers lashing out here against the drivers that see this situation as some sort of karma for rampantly bad biker road manners:

    Do you really think that all this hate comes from no where? Does it come simply from the imaginations of hundreds of people?

    Admit it, there are a large number of incredibly self absorbed, militant bikers out there that consider it some kind of badge of honor to act like a complete A-hole as often as possible. They find it necessary to disturb people in cars, pedestrians, and even the basic concept of law and order.

    You're not special on your bike. No more than anyone else is in their car. But don't feel entitled to take up a whole lane on a road that you probably shouldn't be on anyway. And when you swerve into oncoming traffic and get a horn, don't act indignant. You asked for it (and it was for you safety anyway). And your "Critical Mass"? I'd say that just about says all we need to know about your "movement".

    Lastly, there's not a thing wrong with my car. It doesn't harm the planet, and you're not making it a better place by peddling your way around town.

    Get over yourself.
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    I think the internet encourages lunatic ranting because the ranter is at arms length and anonymous. I've never encountered these kind of rants in a face-to-face conversation with someone. Face-to-face, you get a much more reasoned conversation because it's personal, and they have to be careful not to offend. In these face-to-face conversations is where I educate people a little bit and, since I've heard all the arguments and debates about why cyclists should stay off the road, it's extremely easy to rebut any of their arguments with knowledge of traffic laws, safety rules, accident statistics, and just plain logic.

    But even so, I can't help reading the online comments at the end of any article about cycling. It's like a train wreck - it's awful but you can't resist looking at it. Just don't let it scare you. Just remember the lunatics honking their horn at you as they pass on the road probably wouldn't do that if they weren't insulated by the anonymity of their speeding 2,000 LB shell.

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    Plus ca change. I remember getting hassled by the UC cops to walk my bike through Sproul when I was a freshman in '85. It's just that now there's Facebook to whine about it now.
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    I am more interested in the article actually. The rantings from a generic motorist really do nothing more than excite others.

    $220 fines for parking your bike to a railing or not fully stopping at a stop sign seem excessive. I tried to access their "Secure Bicycle Parking" information but got this message "
    Access denied

    You are not authorized to access this page."

    I suppose there are no other alternatives.
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    These same people that talks about bikes being vehicles are most likely the same people that tells cyclists to get off the road and get on the sidewalk. Its a no win situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exile View Post
    I am more interested in the article actually. The rantings from a generic motorist really do nothing more than excite others.

    $220 fines for parking your bike to a railing or not fully stopping at a stop sign seem excessive. I tried to access their "Secure Bicycle Parking" information but got this message "
    Access denied

    You are not authorized to access this page."
    I suppose there are no other alternatives.
    Agree, start out with warnings, and use good judgment. $220 for parking your bike wrong or rolling through a stop sign is absurd. I've never had a parking ticket of $220 when I drive (not counting towing). And rolling stops, cars do that all the time, and you don't get a ticket for that (at least not around here).

    Hand out tickets to serious offenders, blindly running a red light through a busy intersection, racing down a side walk full of pedestrians etc.

    They asked me to register to post... too much trouble.

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    Haha @ "peddling."

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    Quote Originally Posted by knight9413 View Post
    I am more interested to the comments than the actual article.
    Why? They're not good for you.
    Don't believe everything you think.

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    Ok... it's just as good.

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    Cyclists of the world, unite! You have nothing to lube but your chains!

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    Haha... I got your message, but I don't understand the picture. You don't really have to explain it.

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    I've looked at enough on line "comments" to know that the hate isn't limited to any one group. The political adversaries sometimes get particularly nasty. Some seem to thrive on it.
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    I ignore online comments. The people that comment on articles have to be the most reprehensible group possible. I figure they would be out torturing small children if they didn't have that outlet.

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    If the hate gets worse, is there any possibility of requesting refugee status in the Netherlands? The thought of a cruise around town on a Bakfiets sounds pretty good right now.

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    I've seen a lot of these articles about drivers and peds hating on cyclists. It's not just cyclists that are A-holes. It's people.

    There's an unwritten rule that most of us go by called DBAD: Don't Be A Dick. As far as Cagers, peds and cyclists go, some of all 3 groups need to learn this rule. Use good judgement, DBAD and use common courtesy. Srsly. How these kinds of things escape so many people is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knight9413 View Post
    What do you think?
    I think it reeks of resentment and unresolved issues which that person has with the rest of the world. I think that to the one who wrote that, everyone is guilty of something. And I think that person has a skewed view on the world in general. I think he or she gave good advice in the end, though - get over yourself - but that they should apply it to themselves first.

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