Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 27
  1. #1
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    10
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Michelin pilot city (32c) = bad cornering?? I feel like I'm sliding

    Hi all

    Had a terrible time mounting my new Michelin Pilot City 32c, replacing the Kenda 25c that were on there.

    I chose the Michelin b/c many have said it is puncture resistant (Had to replace 4 tubes with the Kendas from little shards of glass in 5 months) and I wanted a step up in size for more comfort.

    However, I took the bike for a 15 min spin and a few things I noticed

    1) sluggish (thats to be expected so I'm not complaining)

    2) Cornering at anything over 10-14 mph seems terrifying, like I'm going to slide off the edge of the earth. It seems like there is no traction whatsoever, almost like I'm floating, doesn't feel as sharp or precise. My cornering is wider with the 32c. I had no problems cornering at speed with the 23s and 25cs I've had on the bike. Is this normal for 32c or are the Michs Pilots bad tires? Maybe it is something I will get used to

    thank you all for readin'

    Ps edit: 80psi (max 87)

    Last edited by ihatetherain; 12-19-10 at 03:57 PM.

  2. #2
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    10
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    forgot to mention, that today the roads are dry so I'm a little concerned with what this will be like in the rain

  3. #3
    Noobie of the year :) MijnWraak's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Hour South of Boston
    My Bikes
    1980's Miyata Seven Ten
    Posts
    287
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Just to make sure of the obvious. Did you get the right size tube? And is it inflated to the proper pressure? (just so we dont overlook anything )

  4. #4
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    10
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    yup, threw out the old tubes and got new ones that matched the new tire size. Inflated to 80 psi (the max says 87).

  5. #5
    Allez means go. bengreen79's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Two Rivers, WI
    Posts
    849
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I would guess you're not sliding at all. It's probably just the increased flex of the wider tires you're feeling.

  6. #6
    Quirky Grifter LesterOfPuppets's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Vancouver, USA
    My Bikes
    My War
    Posts
    21,008
    Mentioned
    62 Post(s)
    Tagged
    9 Thread(s)
    I find Michelin's low end compounds to be pretty slippy, but not dangerously so. Michelin Country Rocks and Dynamics haven't inspired much confidence in corners, but they've never really put me down. You can hear 'em squirm over the pavement when you really lean it over.
    1980ish Free Spirit Sunbird fixed * 1996 Mongoose IBOC Zero-G * 1997 KHS Comp * 1990-ish Scapin * Lemond Buenos Aires Triple

  7. #7
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    10
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    hear hear on that squirm sound!!!! Well, I'm going to go on a ride for an hour and will report back

  8. #8
    M_S
    M_S is offline
    All Mod Cons M_S's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Face down in a snowbank
    My Bikes
    K2 Enemey Cyclocross franken build; Redline D660 29er, Volpe SS Cross
    Posts
    3,694
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    You should be running lower pressures with the wider tires. Significantly so. That might help a bit with the cornering traction, though it will have a very different feel than what you are used to.

    Those are really heavy tires but totally bombproof. have fun.

  9. #9
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    10
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    so, put 24 miles into the new tires, but I deflated the psi from 80 to 65. it handles much, much better, the "floaty" feeling is less than before

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    3,885
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I have the Michelin City Pilot 35c installed on my Schwinn Super Sport DBX. No issues so far with their performance.

  11. #11
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    10
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    thanks all for your help, thanks M_S for giving me the idea to deflate these beasts a bit! 90% of my exp has been w/ 23c...so quite a jump in handling and differences in feeling! I do have to say though, these 32cs are super comfortable. I'm not as afraid of little sticks in my raceway

  12. #12
    afraid of whales Mr IGH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Front Range, CO
    Posts
    2,642
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Over-priced and ride like solid rubber, that's Michelin Cities. I dumped them for the Forte 35mm kevlar commuter tire. It's cheaper, much better riding and ~200gms lighter.

  13. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    81
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Somewhat off topic, but has anyone tried the Michelin Pilot Sports? Supposedly a little grippier/sportier version of the City line.

  14. #14
    Born Again Pagan irclean's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Southwestern Ontario
    My Bikes
    Schwinn hybrid, Raleigh MTB
    Posts
    2,242
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I run 35mm Pilot City tires on my "comfort" hybrid, pressures ~65 front and ~75 rear. Seems to work well for me; no sliding and very comfy.

    SNC00455.jpg
    Gettin' my Fred on.

  15. #15
    Subjectively Insane MilitantPotato's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Saint Louis, Missouri
    My Bikes
    '09 Rodriguez Adventurer Custom, '08 Trek 7.3Fx
    Posts
    804
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    What width rim are you using?
    If the tires are wide, and the rim narrow, the tires will roll over a little.

    Makes for an odd sensation and affects handling during hard turns.
    The tires more or less roll off to one side.
    You've got a bike, so you gotta move.

  16. #16
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    10
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by MilitantPotato View Post
    What width rim are you using?
    If the tires are wide, and the rim narrow, the tires will roll over a little.

    Makes for an odd sensation and affects handling during hard turns.
    The tires more or less roll off to one side.
    2009 model Surly steamroller, I think the rims are Alex DA18, 32 hole

    when the tires "more or less" roll off to one side, is this dangerous??

  17. #17
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    415
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Those tires need at least 50 miles of bedding in before they will grip the road properly. Used them, and while they have that feeling "gonna let go any second now" when cornering hard, they actually don't slip much. Once you get to know that feeling, how they ride, they are a pretty good tire. And fast, too.

  18. #18
    Unobtanium-Based Lifeform calamarichris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Carlsbad, CA
    My Bikes
    '09 Felt F55, '84 Masi Cran Criterium, (2)'86 Schwinn Pelotons, '86 Look Equippe Hinault, '09 Globe Live 3 (dogtaxi)
    Posts
    5,139
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by whitecat View Post
    Those tires need at least 50 miles of bedding in before they will grip the road properly. Used them, and while they have that feeling "gonna let go any second now" when cornering hard, they actually don't slip much. Once you get to know that feeling, how they ride, they are a pretty good tire. And fast, too.
    +1. Always give your new tires a chance to get their shoulders scrubbed in before passing judgment. (And take it especially easy on corners if you are riding on new motorcycle tires. Sigh. )



  19. #19
    Senior Member boatsinbottles's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Orange county, CA
    My Bikes
    chrome schwinn roadie, chrome Mongoose All Terrain, Rawland cSogn
    Posts
    97
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr IGH View Post
    Over-priced and ride like solid rubber, that's Michelin Cities. I dumped them for the Forte 35mm kevlar commuter tire. It's cheaper, much better riding and ~200gms lighter.
    Oy! Which tire is that? The Metro K? http://www.performancebike.com/bikes...3_20000_400237

  20. #20
    afraid of whales Mr IGH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Front Range, CO
    Posts
    2,642
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    That's the one, it's been $12.99 for more than a year, buy on Tuesday between noon and 2pm and get another 10% off.

  21. #21
    Member MarcusW's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    New York City
    My Bikes
    Jamis Citizen with racks, fenders, lights and trunk bag.
    Posts
    39
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I was getting a flat a week (and often more) with the stock tires on my hybrid from all the broken glass on the streets - switched to the Pilot City tires in October, and haven't flatted since. They felt a little odd at first, but I quickly got used to them, and like them a lot now - they do seem very sensitive to the amount of pressure in them.

    http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt...saQ/weight.png

    Before and after photos here. Daily commute video here. My profile on Daily Mile.

  22. #22
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Posts
    62
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by mobaar View Post
    Somewhat off topic, but has anyone tried the Michelin Pilot Sports? Supposedly a little grippier/sportier version of the City line.
    I've been running Pilot Sports (35's) for the past few months. Great tire. Rolls and grips well...and no flat so far. (60psi rear and 55psi up front.)


  23. #23
    coprolite fietsbob's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    NW,Oregon Coast
    My Bikes
    7
    Posts
    1,596
    Mentioned
    35 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Cornering at anything over 10-14 mph seems terrifying,
    Brake before you enter those corners, too fast.

  24. #24
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    919
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The better Michelin bike tires have a special coating on the rubber to reduce degradation during storage. You need to put some mileage on the rubber before the tire starts to grip. If high-speed cornering is important when new, then use scotchbrite to buff the sides of the contact patch to expose the sticky rubber. You can read more about the coating at the Michelin website.

    As for puncture resistant, the Pilot is one of the best on the market. Small pieces of glass are no challenge for this tire. Course all bets are off if you hit a nail or large construction staple.

  25. #25
    Senior Member Commodus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Burnaby, BC
    Posts
    4,144
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by BigCircles View Post
    I've been running Pilot Sports (35's) for the past few months. Great tire. Rolls and grips well...and no flat so far. (60psi rear and 55psi up front.)

    That is a really nice bike.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •