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Old 12-21-10, 10:35 PM   #1
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Steel + Fat Tires

What bikes/frames are steel and can run 38+ and fenders? I know the Surly LHT and CC, Rocky Mountain Sherpas, Salsa Vaya and Casserol I think max at 38 . . . What else?
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Old 12-22-10, 12:03 AM   #2
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Soma Double Cross claims 700x38 with fenders.
Van Dessell Whiskey Tango Foxtrot can take tires up to 700x52.
A whole lot of 29ers fit the bill.
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Any steel MTB. Surly 1x1, Instigator, and Karate Monkey, for example.
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Good grief...

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...d-rack-eyelets
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Bianchi San Jose - max 32 with fenders, without max 42.
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??? OP asked for tire clearance, not disc tabs and rack eyelets.
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I've got 35's on my San Jose with fenders, but Bianchi no longer makes it. If you can get one used, they are great. Steel frame, CX geometry, track ends, good clearance, and disc tabs.
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Steelwool Tweed: http://steelwoolbicycles.ca/bikes/tweed.html

Room for 38's with fenders, gorgeous lug work and color, provisions for discs or cantis, all the necessary eyelets/braze-ons, and an eccentric BB so you can go SS or IGH if desired. You're pretty much guaranteed to be the only kid on the block with one of these.
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Steelwool Tweed: http://steelwoolbicycles.ca/bikes/tweed.html

Room for 38's with fenders, gorgeous lug work and color, provisions for discs or cantis, all the necessary eyelets/braze-ons, and an eccentric BB so you can go SS or IGH if desired. You're pretty much guaranteed to be the only kid on the block with one of these.
I never heard of this, but I like. I imagine shipping to the U.S. is $$$. I also like another Canadian bike, the Rocky Mountain Sherpa. This seems a little sportier, though the Sherpa can take some really fat tires. The color is nice, too.
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??? OP asked for tire clearance, not disc tabs and rack eyelets.
The bikes that responders mention here that meet the OPs criteria are all listed on the other thread, plus many more.
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Judging by the examples given in the OP's original post I'm inclined to think he's looking for a steel, drop-bar bike that's capable of running fat tires with fenders. Here's an intriguing example from Voodoo (click on pic for link):



Can run geared or SS, and will fit 29*2.3" tires with fenders. Pretty cool.

Even cooler, IMHO, is the Van Dessel WTF (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot):



Can be had as a frameset or in 20 different configurations (e.g., SS, Alfine IGH, belt drive, or geared as pictured above).

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I have been researching the Steelwool Tweed on the Net. I am digging it, but a small boutique brand with no complete bike and no U.S. retailers it looks like it could get pricey in a hurry. With a honey or antique Brooks . . . Nirvana. Seeing as how I have never built from frame, I have no idea what the final cost would be for something basic like a Surly/Salsa build.
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Thanks for all of the recommendations. I already have an awesome steel fat tire 29er in the El Mariachi. I am thinking of replacing the CC. I picked it up off CL awhile back and it is a bit small and I want to change too much on it. I missed out on a couple nice closeout deals on bikes in my size, Rocky Mountain Sherpa 10 and previous Casseroll. Jensen still has the larger Sherpas at a really good price.
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If you like Salsa, have a look at the Vaya.
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If you like Salsa, have a look at the Vaya.
I have been looking at that, a bit pricey, considering I'd want to change the gearing. It is tough because I have never built from frame (but want to learn), building from appears to cost quite a bit more, and with complete bikes I'd want to swap tires for dynohub, bars, and gearing and many. Some of that may depend on how much the LBS is willing to work with me on swapping components.
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Consider Soma's touring or cross frame.
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I have 38s and fenders on my 520. Could go a little bigger but might have to change fenders.
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I have been researching the Steelwool Tweed on the Net. I am digging it, but a small boutique brand with no complete bike and no U.S. retailers it looks like it could get pricey in a hurry. With a honey or antique Brooks . . . Nirvana. Seeing as how I have never built from frame, I have no idea what the final cost would be for something basic like a Surly/Salsa build.
No question that the Steelwool Tweed with Brooks saddle, matching bar tape, and Brooks seat bag would be a classy build! Thus equipped I would live for one of those group rides where I could wear a tweed cap and knickers.

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Thanks for all of the recommendations. I already have an awesome steel fat tire 29er in the El Mariachi. I am thinking of replacing the CC. I picked it up off CL awhile back and it is a bit small and I want to change too much on it. I missed out on a couple nice closeout deals on bikes in my size, Rocky Mountain Sherpa 10 and previous Casseroll. Jensen still has the larger Sherpas at a really good price.
The Sherpa is definitely a nice bike... and another Canadian bicycle company to boot (therefore close to my heart). I remember seeing some great Sherpa pics in a thread from another BF member (Miles2go); I couldn't find the thread, but here's a link to a website showing said pics: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/p..._id=60174&v=8i He fit 42mm tires with fenders on his bike, and even managed to sqeeze in some 50s for a pic!

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I have 38s and fenders on my 520. Could go a little bigger but might have to change fenders.
Hard to go wrong with the venerable 520; it's been Trek's golden boy for almost 40 years.

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I've got 35s/w fenders on my Trek 750 with room to larger. Basically the same frame as the 520, but usually can be found quit a bit cheaper. From 90-93 the frames are TT lugged steel and made at the Waterloo plant.

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