Specialized Tarmac, is there a way to make this bike easier on my back?
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Specialized Tarmac, is there a way to make this bike easier on my back?
I have a 2007 Tarmac which I love but now that I'm in my 50s it takes a toll on my back after a few days of commuting. Is there a way to set this bike up to ease the stress on my back?
#3
Bike addict, dreamer
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Queens, New York
Posts: 5,165
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Or an adjustable stem even. But if you need it even higher you might need a new fork with uncut steering tube to bring the handlebars higher or a new bike altogether with more relaxed geometry. I've seen steering tube extenders but I wouldn't trust that really.
Adam
Adam
#4
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 5,737
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 147 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times
in
8 Posts
An adjustable stem is the ticket. A Nitto Technomic Stem or Dirt Drop Stem is ideal. If your back is no longer as flexible as it was when you were younger, this can make a bike much more comfortable.
#5
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Last edited by MulliganAl; 12-17-10 at 01:01 PM.
#6
Bike ≠ Car ≠ Ped.
But then again, for me, and on one of my bikes, having the bars too close just killed my back. Putting them farther away helped me extend my rides from 20 minutes to 3-4 hours.
OP, an adjustable stem can help, certainly. I would also say to try riding with your hands wherever they land naturally, even if it means that you can't reach the controls properly. You'd do this when you don't have to brake, of course, but it's a step towards adjusting the bike to fit you instead of adjusting your body to fit the bike (even if it's unintentional). If you find that you want your hands at the closest bends, you probably need a shorter stem, or at least less reach; if you're palming the shifters instead, you'll need more reach.
Also, since you've posted this in Commuting, I'm wondering if you're carrying anything and how you're carrying it. Not too many Tarmacs out there with a rack & panniers, but you never know...
#7
Bike ≠ Car ≠ Ped.
They'll feet twitchier than longer stems, but you'll get used to it. I went from a 110 to a 90 (this bike, two sizes up from the one in my previous post, was too big for me anyway) and it felt twitchy for the first couple rides. After that, I'd call it "telepathic".
FWIW, smaller bikes usually come with shorter stems. You'd see a 50 cm road bike with a 60 mm stem, for example.
FWIW, smaller bikes usually come with shorter stems. You'd see a 50 cm road bike with a 60 mm stem, for example.
#8
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 1,840
Bikes: Bianchi San Remo - set up as a utility bike, Peter Mooney Road bike, Peter Mooney commute bike,Dahon Folder,Schwinn Paramount Tandem
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I have a ferrari testarossa which has the suspension bottom out when I try hauling bags of cement from Home Depot to my jobsite - is there a way to set this car up to make it better at hauling construction materials?
MulliganAl I too am in my 50s, and I commute daily. The Tarmac was designed as a racing machine, the priorities were to make it light weight and to provide a geometry that would allow the maximum possible speed. The targeted rider was someone half our age who was more concerned with going fast than being able to work once he got to where he was going - his going fast was his work! If I were you, I would seriously consider using a different bike for commuting - you can probably get a nicely set up commuter for less than the cost of the wheelset on your tarmac, and save the carbon bike for weekends when you want to ride fast and feel like you are young again! I have a bike which is set up as a dedicated commuter - racks, fenders, lights, comfort geometry etc, and another bike which I ride on the weekends -
MulliganAl I too am in my 50s, and I commute daily. The Tarmac was designed as a racing machine, the priorities were to make it light weight and to provide a geometry that would allow the maximum possible speed. The targeted rider was someone half our age who was more concerned with going fast than being able to work once he got to where he was going - his going fast was his work! If I were you, I would seriously consider using a different bike for commuting - you can probably get a nicely set up commuter for less than the cost of the wheelset on your tarmac, and save the carbon bike for weekends when you want to ride fast and feel like you are young again! I have a bike which is set up as a dedicated commuter - racks, fenders, lights, comfort geometry etc, and another bike which I ride on the weekends -
#9
Bike ≠ Car ≠ Ped.
My primary commuter, mainly because it has a rack and generator lighting:
The alternate commuter for when I don't have to carry much (if anything):
They're both "comfortable" for me, and although my back has issues of its own, I've got another decade before I turn 50...
The alternate commuter for when I don't have to carry much (if anything):
They're both "comfortable" for me, and although my back has issues of its own, I've got another decade before I turn 50...
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 8,101
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 52 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 17 Times
in
13 Posts
You might want to check the regional forums for a recommendation on a bike shop in your area that really knows how to do bike fittings. The road forum is also pretty active so you could ask there (for local shop recommendations). Spend the $50 or whatever to have it done. Might be the best $50 you ever spent.
It's not a problem that can be reliably solved over the Internet.
It's not a problem that can be reliably solved over the Internet.
#11
Older than dirt
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Winchester, VA
Posts: 5,342
Bikes: Too darn many.. latest count is 11
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
I'm 54 and frequently ride a full race geometry carbon bike to work, with no discomfort issues. But it was also fitted to me by a Serotta trained fitter. Spent a lot more than $50 though, but it was also a three hour fitting.
#12
Senior Member
Thread Starter
I may check out a stem that I can adjust also, but this messenger bag may have to go.
Anyone want to buy an almost new Bailey Works messenger bag? I paid almost $200 for this thing and used it about 5 times.
Also, I got a fitting back in 2007 when I purchased the bike so that shouldn't be the problem. But as my wife always tells me, I need to stretch more before my rides especially with each additional year of age.
#13
Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 180
Bikes: Look 765 Gravel RS, Lynskey Cooper CX, Lynskey R260
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 12 Times
in
6 Posts
I changed from 700x23 to 700x25 tires with lower air pressure to reduce shock. It definitely made my back (and hands) more comfortable with no discernible change in performance. Of course it could be fit. Would help if you posted a picture of you on the bike.
#14
I am a caffine girl
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 1,815
Bikes: 2012 Stumpjumper FSR Comp...2010 Scott CR1 CF...2007 Novara FS Float2.0...2009 Specialized Hardrock Disc...2009 Schwinn Le Tour GSr
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
I have chronic back problems myself. It snap without notice and I go falling down like the Titanic. Because of that, I avoided getting a bike with a drop bar. When I did get a drop bar bike, I chose one with a inline brake on the top bar. It made a huge difference on my lower back. I can ride all day with my back more upright because my hands are closer to my stem. Then I bought my Scott CR1, my back hurts after an hour of riding on that bike unless I ride with my palm holding the bar near the stem. I'm gonna have inline brake lever added to the top bar of that bike.
#17
Senior Member
Thread Starter
I'm an avid golfer, inline skater for over 20 years, I belong to a local boxing club and I have a gym in my garage (heavy bag, double end bag etc.). My wife and I also walk about 5 miles 3-4 times a week. I had always done a good bit of weight work but I stopped about a year ago; this is probably something I need to start doing again with a focus on back muscle development.
#18
Banned
Ibuprofen, no seriously have you talked to a Doctor about your back issues?
putting posture more upright switching to a riser or pull back upright bar..
puts more weight on your Butt, then consider a sprung wider seat and a suspension seat post.
One way to move to a more upright posture
and still not feel the front wheel is too light , is to use a front pannier rack
and carry your stuff over the front wheel, in those bags.
putting posture more upright switching to a riser or pull back upright bar..
puts more weight on your Butt, then consider a sprung wider seat and a suspension seat post.
One way to move to a more upright posture
and still not feel the front wheel is too light , is to use a front pannier rack
and carry your stuff over the front wheel, in those bags.
Last edited by fietsbob; 12-17-10 at 01:05 PM.
#19
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Binghamton, NY
Posts: 2,896
Bikes: Workcycles FR8, 2016 Jamis Coda Comp, 2008 Surly Long Haul Trucker
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times
in
5 Posts
It could be age or it could be you have become more fit. When I first got drop bars I changed the stem from 100mm to a 90mm because I couldn't get comfortable. After time I went back to the original stem and it feels more comfortable.
If you can check the shop you bought the bike from and see if they will do a refit. They might let you use an adjustable stem or use one to see which one you find comfortable.
If you can check the shop you bought the bike from and see if they will do a refit. They might let you use an adjustable stem or use one to see which one you find comfortable.
#20
Bike ≠ Car ≠ Ped.
I'm an avid golfer, inline skater for over 20 years, I belong to a local boxing club and I have a gym in my garage (heavy bag, double end bag etc.). My wife and I also walk about 5 miles 3-4 times a week. I had always done a good bit of weight work but I stopped about a year ago; this is probably something I need to start doing again with a focus on back muscle development.
You say that you're using a messenger bag -- how high on your back are you carrying it? Have you tried a backpack, too?
If you decide a rack would be better, this should fit on your Tarmac:
https://www.axiomgear.com/products/ge...iner-road-dlx/
#21
Senior Member
Thread Starter
If you decide a rack would be better, this should fit on your Tarmac:
https://www.axiomgear.com/products/ge...iner-road-dlx/
https://www.axiomgear.com/products/ge...iner-road-dlx/
#22
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: flat lands of Indiana
Posts: 70
Bikes: 2013 Wilier Gran Turismo; 2007 Specialized Sequoia; 2011 Bike Friday Pocket Sport (for traveling & touring)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
+1 to consider core strengthening exercises vs. bike adjustments.
I'm 43 and had back pain since my 20s (muscular, not disc problem). I'm sure different exercises work for different people but the "plank" (forearms on ground, hold body parallel to ground for ~1 minute for 2-3 reps) has done it for me.
Since I started doing planks 2-3 times per week about 6 months ago, my back pain has all but disappeared. And I LOWERED my stem- talk about a win-win. More aggressive position on the bike and less/no pain.
I'm 43 and had back pain since my 20s (muscular, not disc problem). I'm sure different exercises work for different people but the "plank" (forearms on ground, hold body parallel to ground for ~1 minute for 2-3 reps) has done it for me.
Since I started doing planks 2-3 times per week about 6 months ago, my back pain has all but disappeared. And I LOWERED my stem- talk about a win-win. More aggressive position on the bike and less/no pain.
#23
20+mph Commuter
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Greenville. SC USA
Posts: 7,517
Bikes: Surly LHT, Surly Lowside, a folding bike, and a beater.
Mentioned: 31 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1434 Post(s)
Liked 331 Times
in
219 Posts
I hate to be the one to say this. Don't try to turn an apple into an orange. Turning a Tarmac into a comfort bike would be a travesty. Please don't install and erection stem as some have suggested. It's your bike. But have you ever seen a formula one race car with a bench seat, giant mud tires, and a couple of child seats in the back seat (if there was a back seat)? Or a low rider Hummer with profile tires and mag rims? Do what you want, but expect some snickers (not candy bars) and sideways glances.
#24
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 6,432
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 539 Post(s)
Liked 44 Times
in
38 Posts
I find comments like the one above...well. The uniform is putting on skintight clothing, wear flourescent colors, and bike on the street where everyone is staring at your rear end.
What I liked about this was the "I don't give a crap what you think about how I look, this clothing all has a technical purpose" approach to the whole thing.
I don't even disagree that there's a whole "attitude" about making a "race" category bike useful by putting a rack on it...I just think it's ****ing annoying.
What I liked about this was the "I don't give a crap what you think about how I look, this clothing all has a technical purpose" approach to the whole thing.
I don't even disagree that there's a whole "attitude" about making a "race" category bike useful by putting a rack on it...I just think it's ****ing annoying.
#25
just ride
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 375
Bikes: specialized roubaix, dawes sst ( steel single speed)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Don't know exactly how old you are, but from some of your statements I gather you are not a kid. Since your bike fitting was three years ago, you may have lost flexiblity and require a slightly different set up. My bike fitter has me lie on a table and then pushes my leg up as far as it will go and measures the angle it makes with the horizontal with this big protractor thing. This apparently tells him something about my flexibility and he uses that info when setting up the bike. He also records it so we can see if it changes over time.