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    Ta Da! The new commuter build unveiled...

    Frame (54cm Salsa Vaya) was a Xmas present from the wife because she knew I was looking for a steel framed off road capable tourer that would also do commuting duty.

    Still waiting on a couple parts (different RD and cassette, disc calipers - all on FedEx trucks) but it'll all be here tomorrow.. Then I get to dial it all in. Tall headtube is going to take some getting used to!


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    Niiiiice!!
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    That's a fantastic looking commuter, man. I'd rock that in a heartbeat, even if it is dirt brown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyStickman View Post
    even if it is dirt brown.
    LOL! Thanks. I think the official name for the color is "Upside Brown"

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    nice! I'm really liking the Vaya framesets. Let us know what you think of that headtube angle.

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    I like that a lot. I've been seriously considering getting one of those since I saw one on the floor at Universal Cycles.

    At the risk of exposing myself as a weight weenie...what's it weigh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_K View Post
    I like that a lot. I've been seriously considering getting one of those since I saw one on the floor at Universal Cycles.

    At the risk of exposing myself as a weight weenie...what's it weigh?
    That's OK... Although I wasn't adding grams in the calculator the bike scale says 26.8lbs. I'm swapping the 12-27 and road RD off the rear and going to a 11-32 and XT RD, (It's 10 speed) and the calipers should push it into the mid-high 27lbs mark. Wheels/tires on the bike (Bontrager 29'er wheels/WTB Interwolf 38mm Cross tires) are where the weight is. The frame was remarkably light for steel, and the rest of the components showcase my inner weenieness. I'll admit I popped a SRAM Red crankset in it for giggles
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    Nice bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCrew View Post
    That's OK... Although I wasn't adding grams in the calculator the bike scale says 26.8lbs. I'm swapping the 12-27 and road RD off the rear and going to a 11-32 and XT RD, (It's 10 speed) and the calipers should push it into the mid-high 27lbs mark. Wheels/tires on the bike (Bontrager 29'er wheels/WTB Interwolf 38mm Cross tires) are where the weight is. The frame was remarkably light for steel, and the rest of the components showcase my inner weenieness. I'll admit I popped a SRAM Red crankset in it for giggles
    If you mean you're using the 10 speed rear derailleur, it won't work. Counter-intuitively, you need the non-dynasys 9 speed version. If you know this already, nevermind. It's a sweet bike, I'd love to own one of those, or a Fargo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCrew View Post
    Although I wasn't adding grams in the calculator the bike scale says 26.8lbs.
    That's not bad. My Muirwoods comes in around 30 pounds before I put on the rack and fenders. Every time I climb the hill to my house I think about replacing it with something lighter, plus that Vaya is a whole lot more beautiful than the Muirwoods.

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    wow, amazing bike!!

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    Sweet bike! Seeing projects like these almost make me want to invest in a DF disc brake, drop bar commuter rig to use when I don't want to use my recumbent.

    Also I actually really like the brown, black, and tan color configuration. It looks really classy!
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    Remember when 10 speed meant 2x5?

    Enjoy the new ride, CCrew. You've come a long way, baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M_S View Post
    If you mean you're using the 10 speed rear derailleur, it won't work. Counter-intuitively, you need the non-dynasys 9 speed version. If you know this already, nevermind. It's a sweet bike, I'd love to own one of those, or a Fargo.
    No, I mean the bike is 10 speed rear. shifters are 5700 series 105, rear is going to be 10sp MTB. Currently 10sp road. Unless I go to an SRAM Apex rear cassette I can't get to 32 on the rear cog, and beyond 30teeth the road RD gets iffy.

    Shimano is making 10sp now in MTB all the way down into the SLX line up to 36 tooth. (XTR/XT/SLX)

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    Looks nice. Let's see more pics when the build is complete. Plans to install rack and fenders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCrew View Post
    No, I mean the bike is 10 speed rear. shifters are 5700 series 105, rear is going to be 10sp MTB. Currently 10sp road. Unless I go to an SRAM Apex rear cassette I can't get to 32 on the rear cog, and beyond 30teeth the road RD gets iffy.

    Shimano is making 10sp now in MTB all the way down into the SLX line up to 36 tooth. (XTR/XT/SLX)
    I'm not quite sure what your intentions are, but to be clear, you need to buy a 10-speed MTB rear cassette from either Sram or Shimano, and a 9-speed rear MTB derailleur from Shimano, not a 10-speed one. Eg. this one will be fine: http://bike.shimano.com/publish/cont...GS.-type-.html but this one is not: http://bike.shimano.com/publish/cont..._mountain.html

    Also, you have to make sure you get a top-normal one.

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    Nice build, congratulations! I was considering this frame for my tourer build last year but opted for Kona Sutra instead, it was half the price. Happy riding!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boye View Post
    I'm not quite sure what your intentions are, but to be clear, you need to buy a 10-speed MTB rear cassette from either Sram or Shimano, and a 9-speed rear MTB derailleur from Shimano, not a 10-speed one. Eg. this one will be fine: http://bike.shimano.com/publish/cont...GS.-type-.html but this one is not: http://bike.shimano.com/publish/cont..._mountain.html

    Also, you have to make sure you get a top-normal one.
    Thanks. The 10sp dyna-sys derailleurs I'm well aware don't play well. Biggest reason for the MTB rear derailleur was that I was going beyond the capability of the road RD once I passed 30 teeth on the rear sprocket. I can get to 32 teeth on the rear cassette either by MTB in SRAM or Shimano or SRAM Apex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alan s View Post
    Looks nice. Let's see more pics when the build is complete. Plans to install rack and fenders?
    Thanks! Fenders probably not, I rarely run them. Racks I'm pondering. Probably Tubus if I go there, but for the commuting portion I'll probably not rush as I usually haul everything in a messenger bag. That gives me some time to decide on racks. I also have a Bob trailer if I really need to lug stuff in the interim.

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    Nice bike!

    Tubus Cargo has worked out well for me. Easily bolts right on... I switch between panniers for commuting...and a trunk bag for long distance rides.



    And if you ever do decide to put on fenders - the PB Cascadia's work perfectly. Kit includes spacers for the calipers. (Only one gets used on the front...) Total install time = 15 minutes without any headaches!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCrew View Post
    Thanks. The 10sp dyna-sys derailleurs I'm well aware don't play well. Biggest reason for the MTB rear derailleur was that I was going beyond the capability of the road RD once I passed 30 teeth on the rear sprocket. I can get to 32 teeth on the rear cassette either by MTB in SRAM or Shimano or SRAM Apex.
    Great, sounds like you are all sorted, then. Good luck with you project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCircles View Post
    Nice bike!

    Tubus Cargo has worked out well for me. Easily bolts right on... I switch between panniers for commuting...and a trunk bag for long distance rides.

    Nice BigCircles!

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    Good choice! Welcome to the Vayahood.

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    Nice build, CCrew!

    I put an 11-34 10-speed cassette on my 7.7FX with an XT 9-sp top normal derailleur and R770 shifters (it's a flat bar). Works great, and I love the range over the old 12-27 cassette. In the process, I moved my old ultegra GS derailleur to my weekend bike, so all was good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffpoulin View Post
    Nice build, CCrew!

    I put an 11-34 10-speed cassette on my 7.7FX with an XT 9-sp top normal derailleur and R770 shifters (it's a flat bar). Works great, and I love the range over the old 12-27 cassette. In the process, I moved my old ultegra GS derailleur to my weekend bike, so all was good.
    Thanks Jeff.

    I went 11-34 XT cassette on the rear with the same derailleur you're running. RD is here, durned cassette was backordered until the 7th. I go back to work from vacation Wednesday, so I'll run it for a day or so on the 12-27 that's on it and see how it does.

    Dropped the bars and flipped the stem already, like a bit more aggressive position.. Still have 30mm worth of spacers in it if I need to go lower. Figured better to start with the bars high and drop them than to need more and be too short.

    Build was easy. Rear caliper mounting was a little fiddly, and getting the BB7's fine tuned took a couple tries - they really don't have a world of adjustment like the MTB versions do since the road shifters really don't pull much cable. Other than that it was pretty much assemble and run with it.

    Love the 5700 series 105 with it's under the tape cable routing. Actually gives me the ability to run a handlebar bag.

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