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Old 01-12-11, 02:52 PM   #1
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Race Bike Fenders

I'm tired of a wet a$$ in the moring. Anyone have any recomandations? I'm riding a 2005 Specialized Allez Sport.
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My commuter is an '07 Schwinn Le Tour GS w/ 700 x 28 tires and I'm running these: http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...oducts_id=3368
Had to squeeze them a bit inside the fork but they work fine.
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I ordered a pair of race blades but I sent them back because the end of the rear one was warped and now I'm afraid that could happen to them even if they started out right. Also, my fork does not have any mounting holes at the bottom.
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If it's just your ass you're worried about - get one of those seat tube clamp on things - doesn't have to fit the wheel, looks a little odd, works pretty good.

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Crud RoadRacer MK2

They're full fenders designed specifically for road bikes with 23mm tires, short reach brakes, and short chainstays. They work exactly as advertised, which in itself is amazing.

I bought a set for my Litespeed and love them. Although I had to drop down from a 25mm tire in front to a 23mm. (The 25 still fits fine in the rear.) The grit that the tires pick up would rub on the inside of the fenders. But the advertising says 23mm, and they meant it.

Note: These are not rainy day fenders. They're meant to be mounted for the season. Yes, the stays mount with O-rings, but through the brakes, the fenders mount with zip ties. I haven't figured out how to cut the zip ties around the brake bolt. Come spring, I'll have to unbolt the calipers to remove the fenders. Small price to pay for being able to ride the Litespeed without having to wait for it to be perfectly dry.
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Crud RoadRacer MK2

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I picked these up in November, they are fabulous. they are full fenders, so they really keep the water off you (unlike the blades). They are light, easy to install, look great and I have logged 600 miles on them so far with 0 problems. Highly recommended.
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I have some race blades.. only used them once and that wasn't in rain, just wet roads just after rain, but they kept me dry and didn't fall off or anything.
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I love my Race Blades. 30 seconds to put on if the road is wet. 30 seconds to take off when its dry. I have used them for the last 2 years and haven't had any warping issues with mine.
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Crud RoadRacer MK2

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I picked these up in November, they are fabulous. they are full fenders, so they really keep the water off you (unlike the blades). They are light, easy to install, look great and I have logged 600 miles on them so far with 0 problems. Highly recommended.
I've got SKS Raceblades and would get a set of these in a second if they would accomodate 25 or 28mm tires. 23s are a little light for consistant commuting for my terrain. The Raceblades don't really do a whole lot. They're way better than nothing, though. There's always a 'rooster tail' in the front and the back doesn't keep gunk off one's drivetrain very well. So, it's always necessary to do a cleaning after riding.
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I've got SKS Raceblades and would get a set of these in a second if they would accomodate 25 or 28mm tires. 23s are a little light for consistant commuting for my terrain. The Raceblades don't really do a whole lot. They're way better than nothing, though. There's always a 'rooster tail' in the front and the back doesn't keep gunk off one's drivetrain very well. So, it's always necessary to do a cleaning after riding.
Yeah, 23 mm is likely the max for these, although to be honest I don't think I can fit 25s on my bike even without the fenders. The instructions say that if you can slide a 5mm allen wrench between your tire and frame/brake caliper, you can fit them. For me a 23mm tire gives me ~6mm clearance. I'm commuting in Seattle and on most days it is actively raining and I'm riding through puddles. Blades just won't cut it for me, so I live w/ 23mm Gatorskins.
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OP, I feel your pain. Even though my Allez Double Steel is a different frame than the other Allez bikes, it too was definitely not designed with fenders in mind. I barely managed to fit 23c Gatorskin Hardshell tires with SKS P35 fenders. The rear was tough fit but it worked with minimal rubbing. There was definitely a bit of cutting on a warped end, some snipping of the fender supports and a zip-tie involved but the fenders made a classy bike even classier. Commuter rigs need to have fenders unless you're living in the desert.

I'm sure it sounds bad but fenders are so worth it and, due to an accident last month, I'm replacing my bike and fenders with the same Allez and P35 fenders so it's not as bad as I made it out to be.
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Planet Bike's SpeedEZ Road

Not too expensive
Not too heavy
Easy off/on

But, DAMN! those CRUD's look SOLID!!!
Hmmmmm

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You'll want a front fender, too, to keep your feet dry.

For front and rear, the longer the fender, the better.

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I've got both the Crud and SKS Race Blade fenders. They both have their pros and cons. The Cruds look nicer, provide more coverage and are lighter but they will not fit over tires larger than 23 mm. Even with 23 mm tires, I had to leave off the front extension piece because I couldn't keep them from rubbing. You have to check the "bolts" from time to time because they can work loose.

The Race Blades will accommodate larger tires (I've used them with 28s) with some tweaking and are easier to install and remove if you don't want to leave them on all of the time. However, they stop short of the brake calipers, which means you still get a lot of gunk and dirt building up on your bike. They are also heavier, rattle and rub if not adjusted perfectly, and don't look very nice.

Both fenders are decent alternatives if you absolutely cannot use regular fenders on a bike, but provide way less coverage than full fenders.
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Not too expensive
Not too heavy
Easy off/on

But, DAMN! those CRUD's look SOLID!!!
Hmmmmm
Planetbike SPEEDEZ road fenders.
This is what's on my bike for over a year now, a few thousand miles.
Not full coverage, but your bum will be dry. 700 X 25 slick tires.
It's supposed to go on and off easily, but I just leave mine on all the time.


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N+1 is always the solution;



Old school road bike from CL, $170.00. I installed full fenders, 20 speed Ultegra & modern wheels w/700x25 tires. I clean it every 1000 miles. I would rather that this get stolen or damaged than any of my other bikes.

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Crud RoadRacer MK2

+10

I picked these up in November, they are fabulous. they are full fenders, so they really keep the water off you (unlike the blades). They are light, easy to install, look great and I have logged 600 miles on them so far with 0 problems. Highly recommended.

I got mine in the mail today. I'll let you know how they work soon.
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wow, the coolest part of the RoadRacer fenders is the brush on the braking surface. I always pick up crud on my brakes when its wet.
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I ordered a pair of race blades but I sent them back because the end of the rear one was warped and now I'm afraid that could happen to them even if they started out right. Also, my fork does not have any mounting holes at the bottom.
race bike frames and forks don't generally come with holes for mounting fenders. They were never designed or intended to be ridden with fenders. Thus, you get things like the race blades that are intended to be mounted to forks or seat stays with rubber band like fasteners or zip ties. Either way, even a full fender mounted on the fork of any bike isn't going to solve your problem of your butt getting wet.

I have a rear "race blade" fender mounted to the seat stays on my road bike. The only thing that it really does is prevents my rear end from getting wet and keeping the road grime racing stripe off my jacket. I didn't even bother to put the front fender on. It was so short that it didn't provide any more coverage, or prevent any more road spray on my feet and drivetrain than the downtube on the frame already provided... which is little to none.

My solution for lots of riding in the rain is bike #2... a touring bike with full fenders and mud flaps that nearly touch the ground. The fenders and flaps do an excellent job of keeping my feet drier, my butt dry, and the drivetrain cleaner. However, the bike was designed to take full fenders. With a race bike frame... I never had any expectation that I would be dry at all when riding.
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race bike frames and forks don't generally come with holes for mounting fenders. They were never designed or intended to be ridden with fenders. Thus, you get things like the race blades that are intended to be mounted to forks or seat stays with rubber band like fasteners or zip ties. Either way, even a full fender mounted on the fork of any bike isn't going to solve your problem of your butt getting wet.

I have a rear "race blade" fender mounted to the seat stays on my road bike. The only thing that it really does is prevents my rear end from getting wet and keeping the road grime racing stripe off my jacket. I didn't even bother to put the front fender on. It was so short that it didn't provide any more coverage, or prevent any more road spray on my feet and drivetrain than the downtube on the frame already provided... which is little to none.

My solution for lots of riding in the rain is bike #2... a touring bike with full fenders and mud flaps that nearly touch the ground. The fenders and flaps do an excellent job of keeping my feet drier, my butt dry, and the drivetrain cleaner. However, the bike was designed to take full fenders. With a race bike frame... I never had any expectation that I would be dry at all when riding.

A cheaper solution than bike #2 is to put a longer flap on the race blade.

It doesn't help your front brake or headset but it does keep the spray off your feet and drivetrain as well as any other front fender and better than most that you'd buy off the shelf.
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Crud RoadRacer MK2

They're full fenders designed specifically for road bikes with 23mm tires, short reach brakes, and short chainstays. They work exactly as advertised, which in itself is amazing.
But, oh, they're a ***** to install. I got some recently for my Specialized Dolce (51 cm frame, 25mm tyres). I'd emailed the manufacturer before buying them, and mentioned that some sites advertised that the fenders were best suited to 23mm or smaller tyres. His response was that tyre size didn't matter, that the issue was with clearance, and that if I could fit a 3mm allen key between the tyre and the bottom of the brake boss, I'd be fine. I could fit a 5mm in there, so I figured there'd be no problem. The front did not take minutes to install. It did not take hours. It took days. Tyre rub is the problem here. I'd solve one tyre rub problem only for it to move to some other part of the fender. It was truly one of the most frustrating things I've ever had to do to my bike. In the end, I settled for a little rub against the tyre, so it's like riding with the brakes on. I might have another crack at fixing it this weekend, but to be honest, I'm in denial about having to deal with it!

By comparison, the back fender was super-easy and super-fast to fit. Despite my issues with the front fender (which I will either resolve through many more hours adjusting, or give up in disgust and go with a 23mm tyre), I'm happy overall with the purchase. They do what they claim to do, which is to keep the dreck off my legs, bum and bike. They are now a permanent fixture on my commuter bike. I concur that this is not the sort of thing you'd just "throw on" as needed. You put them on and you leave them on!

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Those CRUDs don't seem to be available here in the US but Chain Reaction Cycles in the UK will sell them for about $38, plus $8 shipping.

If they're available for less than that in the US, I'd like to know about it.
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