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Old 02-26-11, 08:40 AM   #1
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Deal or not?

Hello all,

I found out from a local bike shop that Cannondale has revised their cycle list and no longer carries the the T2 touring model. I had an interest in this bike when I tested it out a couple of years ago. The fit was very good. Very robust bike with good fit and finish. Most road bikes have top bar problems for me, 5'10, 28.5 inseam, long torso so this model was encouraging.

However when I tested it two years ago the price was at the level of a Kona Sutra which I found to be ridicules given the spec. Fast forward to today. After a quick conversation it became known that this dealer had one medium sized T2 Cannondale (my size) left in storage and needing assembly. It was a green 2009 model, just like the one I tried a two years ago.

The price will be marked about 28% off regular retail. Take it or leave it. This still puts the price point about 100-150 above a Kona Jake and remember, this bike is brand new old stock from two years ago.

Would you take the deal? Thanks for your input.

Sincerely, Super6

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Old 02-26-11, 08:47 AM   #2
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I would tell them, "Here's the number I'm willing to pay. Call me when you want it off your inventory."
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Old 02-26-11, 08:50 AM   #3
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My wife and I both have Cannondale touring bikes. They make awesome commuters and all-around day riding bikes. I would certainly consider it. Touring bikes don't advance much from year to year, so a 2009 model is still about as current as it gets.
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Old 02-26-11, 09:08 AM   #4
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A few years ago I was going to get a new Bianchi Volpe. The owner showed me a Softride World Traveler for about 200.00 more. I still have the Softride.
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Old 02-26-11, 09:55 AM   #5
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If you are looking for a screaming deal I don't know if thats the case. If this is the best fitting bike you have ever tried out that fits your purpose then its a deal for you. Its been suggested already, but you might make them an offer thats a bit more appealing to you and see what they say.
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I'll see what I can haggle out of him. He was pretty firm but if I can get a set of peddles out of him and or a pannier I might be willing to deal.
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You mentioned the fit.

I'd go for it, if it fits you perfectly it's definitely worth it.
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Old 02-26-11, 12:20 PM   #8
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If its the best fitting bike you've been on then go for it. When i was shopping for a touring bike it was close to the top of what I was looking for.

How much would it be? My LBS was selling theirs for around $1300 if memory serves me correctly. So you would get yours for around $940?
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All road bikes start at $1000 with the exception the low end Kona Jakes which are slightly less. Prices are in Canadian dollars. 1500 retail, 1100 clearance. Despite dollar parity we are still working with about 10% markup on bikes, at least with all the local bike shops here.
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All road bikes start at $1000 with the exception the low end Kona Jakes which are slightly less. Prices are in Canadian dollars. 1500 retail, 1100 clearance. Despite dollar parity we are still working with about 10% markup on bikes, at least with all the local bike shops here.
At least you're not in Switzerland. The Swiss franc is currently worth $1.07, but bike stuff still costs 50% more in francs here than it does in dollars in the U.S.
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Old 02-26-11, 02:11 PM   #11
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Forget the fact that it is old stock. New isn't better when it comes to bicycles (I mean, it could be better, but if it is that's unrelated to the fact that it's newer).

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At least you're not in Switzerland. The Swiss franc is currently worth $1.07, but bike stuff still costs 50% more in francs here than it does in dollars in the U.S.
Yeah I have to say that's probably the best thing about being an American. Since our countryman will buy anything that's cheap, suppliers know that if they offer us lower prices they will make up in volume what they lose in incremental profits. Plus since there's no VAT, anything we buy online is essentially tax free (and nowadays I buy almost everything online).

Of course our social welfare system sucks, so it's important to be frugal and save for the future. On the other hand, if I were Swiss I'd probably spend extravagantly and let the government cover my risks...it always pays to buck the trend.

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let's not stray too far into politics please
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Just got home. I missed it by a few hours as I did not put down a deposit. I was very surprised the Cannondale went that quickly given there is still two feet of snow on the ground. Then again the only reason it lasted this long was that it was not assembled on the showroom floor until now. I apologize for steering the thread in a dead end direction. All of the opinions are appreciated. Didn't plan for this to down that way.

That said I am still in the market for a bike. This year the owner took on the Masi bike line. Anyone have opinions on specific models for either a commuter or for occasional cross bike uses? Streets are paved but in disrepair. Consider tire size for constant usage in gravel or rougher type terrain when making projections.

I took a spin on the Speciale CX and it wasn't bad however it needed some final tweeking to get the handlebar position dialed in in my opinion. The steel frame was a plus. I haven't thought about steel frames in well....a very long time!
http://www.masibikes.com/steel/speciale-cx/

I also took a spin on the next model up, the Speciale Randonneur. I am not sure how I feel about the down tube shifters yet. That would take getting used too. More of a touring bike but then so was the T2. And yes I like to think on things a bit and wasn't sure if the whole down tube thing is for me. That is why I didn't walk out with the bike.
http://www.masibikes.com/steel/randonneur/

I wanted to get an opinion on Masi's CS/SS but they didn't have any in stock. Interesting looking bike. Single speed though in the weather I am driving it in that may not be such a bad thing.
http://www.masibikes.com/steel/speciale-cxss/

Nor did they have they have their Cross Racer in yet but it isn't spring yet. Aluminum frame on this one. Pricier but for my purposes here do not use price as a consideration.
http://www.masibikes.com/competition/cxr/

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I test rode a CXSS. Monstercross bikes are going to be the new black (imho). I'd say it was a bonus for snarky road conditions without destroying a quality gear train with salt and sand though.

Are you looking for a road bike, which seems to be the direction you're leaning?

If your roads are in as much disrepair as mine, I'd say going with a hardtail MB might be a valid option too.
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Old 02-26-11, 11:09 PM   #15
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I test rode a CXSS. Monstercross bikes are going to be the new black (imho). I'd say it was a bonus for snarky road conditions without destroying a quality gear train with salt and sand though.

Are you looking for a road bike, which seems to be the direction you're leaning?

If your roads are in as much disrepair as mine, I'd say going with a hardtail MB might be a valid option too.
The back-up model I had envisioned trying was a Brodie Elan. The semi upright position would be nice for navigating downtown traffic. Unfortunately the only dealer is 2.5 hours away. HT Mountain bikes? Whew. I haven't considered them for quite a while. I'll have to test stuff out to see and get back with you on that one. I literally have no opinion there. I've been out of it too long. If I went that route I'd definitely search for something with a lock out fork. That option didn't exist 15 years ago.

Road bike as in dropped handlebar? Yes. If I say road bike the frame must be able to be rugged enough to haul 25 pounds of gear. I do not know if the carbon fiber forks have improved enough to take our cold climate. The britlleness of the fork would be tested for sure. Tire tread must be moderate enough for mainly road riding at the crest but grippy enough to pull out of gravel. Tire should have some degree of sidewall. Too many sharp, uneven surfaces to wreck a rim quickly. The CXSS had so much tire I wondered if it might dampen the road but I had no idea how much handling those knobby tires sacrificed on smoother surfaces. Then again it may ride awful on everything except dirt. I do not know. I wasn't after the fastest bike but something more comfortable and not so hard on the wrists. Large tires and a steel frame suggested the possibility of a softer ride. I don't know the pros and cons of monstercross that well yet. Maybe later in the spring I'll see some.

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