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    What would you have done if this driver didn't stop?
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    I would have slammed on the brakes, eventually collided with their fender, flung myself over the handlebars and landed with a massive impact on their hood/windshield. Then the momentum would have carried me off the other side, where the still-moving car would have rolled over my left arm, breaking it in 4 places. My last thoughts before blacking out would be "Man, I should have gotten this on video."

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    I give the driver credit for stopping, even if it was kind of late.
    I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.



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    Stopped pedaling, maybe brake some and let him cross in front of me. It looks like he was quite a bit in front of the rider, leaving plenty of time / space to avoid. Then maybe throw up a WTH arm signal depending on how I felt at the time. Maybe nothing at all.
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    It looks like there would have been time to stop/slow down. I possibly would have turned to the left to pass behind him/her.

    It's all theoretical though. They stopped. Would have been better had they seen the cyclist before starting the turn, but people F-Up which is why we can't assume they're always going to do what they're supposed to do.

    I had a driver blow through an intersection in front of me this morning after a rolling stop. (I had no stop my way). She never even turned to look. I was able to slow down enough to avoid a collision because I approached cautiously after I saw her. She looked like trouble.

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    Sun at my back, shadowed areas, riding at a fairly decent speed, large driveways to my right...... I would have had a headlight on strobe mode, or at the very least, on the watch out for any car that dares to even touch the center line.

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    I would have slowed down and let him complete the turn, because not only would that have minimized the risk from him, but also from any car that was approaching from your rear that was blocked by his actions. That car approaching from the rear if he did not see you at speed would have probably opted for the lane you were in to avoid the car you filmed.

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    I had something similar happen but in a completely different type of road. It was a slow-moving, heavy-traffic, multi-lane thing. I had moved to the left lane to turn in a block. An oncoming car turned left directly in front of me. There was no way to stop in time (I was pushing about 20mph).

    There was a break in traffic behind him, so I went left into the lane he was turning from, then moved back right.

    I had quite the unpleasant adrenaline rush from that.

    I'm not sure that would have worked in the scenario in the video.
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    I've had several much closer calls than what's shown in that video. In the video, it's not obvious that the driver didn't see the cyclist; he may have very well seen him and started making his turn anyway. The turn and stop looked slow and controlled. Not necessarily wise on the driver's part, and perhaps not even legal, but this didn't look like a crisis averted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by groovestew View Post
    I've had several much closer calls than what's shown in that video. In the video, it's not obvious that the driver didn't see the cyclist; he may have very well seen him and started making his turn anyway. The turn and stop looked slow and controlled. Not necessarily wise on the driver's part, and perhaps not even legal, but this didn't look like a crisis averted.
    +1

    I have been hit on my bike and had a few other close calls, I've been in accidents in my car, I've been nearly run over a couple of times as a ped. They only difference was I didn't have a camera on my head to record them.

    Sometimes I get pissed. Sometimes I just feel relieved that it wasn't worse. The one time I was hit I was completely uninjured except for the sore chest I got from stiff arming the SUV (Not sure I'd recommend that under most circumstances). The driver was mortified. What good would getting angry do at that point? I was OK, my bike was OK, his door had a tjspiel shaped dent in it.

    These things happen and all you can do is learn how to limit the risks. You can't control what other people are going to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjspiel View Post
    These things happen and all you can do is learn how to limit the risks. You can't control what other people are going to do.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by groovestew View Post
    I've had several much closer calls than what's shown in that video. In the video, it's not obvious that the driver didn't see the cyclist; he may have very well seen him and started making his turn anyway. The turn and stop looked slow and controlled. Not necessarily wise on the driver's part, and perhaps not even legal, but this didn't look like a crisis averted.
    +2

    I would've just slowed down and either stopped if I had to, or kept going, as the guy in the video did... no big deal IMO.

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    I would have kept going without even a look back.

    But since we are talking about hypothetical's I would have braked and swerved towards the right and hoped not to be hit by either slowing down in time or going through the front door of the store.
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    This is why I run my headlight in the daylight as well as dark. It makes a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarwheel View Post
    This is why I run my headlight in the daylight as well as dark. It makes a difference.
    I run my headlight all the time too. It doesn't always make a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcrowell View Post
    I run my headlight all the time too. It doesn't always make a difference.
    Only has to make a difference that one critical time...

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    What would I have done if someone stopped and waited until I had passed before making a left turn? I might have waved and said "thanks".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post
    I give the driver credit for stopping, even if it was kind of late.
    I would start slowing down with my brake, take a quick glance back and if possible try to take the lane go around the car.... If not possible, take the hit =/

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    It did happen to me and a front blinky would not have helped. I came over a small little hill and a pickup driver was waiting for traffic to clear before making a left turn into a dirt driveway. It was clear the driver intended to wait for me to pass, but when a car came over the hill behind me, the dumb pickup driver decided he did not want to wait for the car as well and gunned it. I was at 25 mph and hit the brakes hard. He would have made it if he did not slow for the dirt driveway. I hit his rear quarter panel at about 3 mph and flipped over the truck bed. At about 300 degrees through the flip, the rear wheel hit the ground and then went sideways (damn, I almost completed a circus trick). Collision dented his quarter panel and broke the rear turn signal. My damages were bent top and down tubes, cosmetic damage to components; ripped jersey, shorts and gloves, sole of shoes pulled partly off (clipless).

    The driver refused to go to the shop he was employed at and call the police. I had to ask the shop owner if I could call (before cell phones). The shop was a garden small engine repair business.

    The driver insisted to me, the insurance co. and the police that the collision was my fault because I hit the ‘back’ of his truck.

    The driver was on welfare with my state taxes helping to pay his insurance and car cost for him to drive to a cash paying, off the books job (scum bag). The reason the driver argued it was my fault so hard was because the insurance company could drop the state underpaid insurance policy if the driver was at fault. Insurance companies here hate being forced to cover these money losing policies.

    End result, driver lost his insurance (I bet he kept driving anyway).

    Insurance company paid full replacement cost $1,800 on a 11 month old road bike that I got on special sale for $900. Another $300 for the special paint job that was no longer stock and would have to be custom painted on my new bike (black gloss with silver solder spun on - really cool looking). Another $260 for the damaged jersey, shorts, gloves and shoes. No visible damage to the helmet, but it had been in a collision, so $120 for the helmet.

    I took all that money, added another $450 and bought a Litespeed Ultimate on sale. I was happy. The insurance company was even happy because they got to drop the welfare policy for so little money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qmsdc15 View Post
    What would I have done if someone stopped and waited until I had passed before making a left turn? I might have waved and said "thanks".
    Reading the OP helps.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyanReasons View Post
    What would you have done if this driver didn't stop?

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    Looks like there was time to slow or stop. If the driver had been later and not stopped, then I guess I'd try to brake. There looks to be room to bail to the right and that might buy time for the driver to see the cyclist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CB HI View Post
    Reading the OP helps.
    Seriously. It was only one sentence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CB HI View Post
    Reading the OP helps.
    Oops, sorry. If it was me, I'd try to avoid getting hit. Before I had my trailer it sometimes involved a two wheeled powerslide to the right. When I tried the same move with the trailer it didn't work so good. I slammed into the side of the car, bent front wheel, broken sunglasses and collarbone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scroca View Post
    Seriously. It was only one sentence.
    Apologies to you as well sir and to any else I've offended with that grievious oversight.

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