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    What makes a wheel out of true?

    What makes a wheel out of true? Does it depend on riding styles, aggresiveness, equipment, type of impact etc etc?

    does keeping your tire inflated to the recommended PSI value help keep the wheel true for a longer period of time?
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    Any time you hit a pothole, curb, or obstacle, it causes the wheel to flex, the spokes stretch and compress. When the spoke stretches beyond its elasticity limit, or the spoke nipple comes a few turns loose (or is yanked a few threads) or a spoke breaks, these will cause the wheel to be out of true.

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    Or if a wheel is improperly built: either wasn't stressed properly (to let the spokes and nipples "set") or simply the spoke tension is uneven. Such a wheel will go slowly (or quickly) out of true even under normal use.

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    as far as I know... Hitting the spoke with the mallet while playing bike polo and bunny hoppin lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titmawz View Post
    as far as I know... Hitting the spoke with the mallet while playing bike polo and bunny hoppin lol
    That would do it I also heard that having an SUV ride into your wheel might cause it to go somewhat untrue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamDZ View Post
    That would do it I also heard that having an SUV ride into your wheel might cause it to go somewhat untrue.
    LOL... yeah for real

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamDZ View Post
    That would do it I also heard that having an SUV ride into your wheel might cause it to go somewhat untrue.
    there's a difference between out of true and bent. just like there's a difference between bent and taco'd.

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    does keeping your tire inflated to the recommended PSI value help keep the wheel true for a longer period of time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stillcovalent View Post
    does keeping your tire inflated to the recommended PSI value help keep the wheel true for a longer period of time?
    yes.
    unless you are attacked by an SUV. or playing polo.
    also, stand up over large bumps/ curbs and use your legs to absorb some of the impact.

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    Riding over a land mine has also been known to cause a wheel to go out of true, among other things.

    Besides that, there's the more mundane bumps and such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stillcovalent View Post
    What makes a wheel out of true? Does it depend on riding styles, aggresiveness, equipment, type of impact etc etc?

    does keeping your tire inflated to the recommended PSI value help keep the wheel true for a longer period of time?
    While getting hit by an SUV or hitting a spoke with a polo mallet, or even hitting potholes can cause a wheel to go out of true, the real mechanism for a wheel going out of true is the same as a bolt unscrewing under tension and vibration. The bike's spokes are really just long bolts with a nut at the end of them. If the nut...spoke nipple, in the case... isn't under enough tension or if the nut doesn't have something on it to keep it from moving, vibration will cause the spoke nipple to move.

    Since the tension on each spoke is very, very high and the tension is balanced between all the spokes of the wheel, even a small movement of one spoke nipple can case the rim to move. The direction depends on the spoke and it's relationship to the other spokes around it.

    Another part of the relationship is due to the nature of the fastener. Since the spoke is a very thin diameter bolt that is very long, it can flex and bend with use. When new, the spokes are bending to conform to all of the stresses that the wheel has to take during normal use. The spoke bends to conform around the hub and to settle into equilibrium with the other spokes of the wheel. These can cause a change in tension on the spoke nipple. If the changes are uneven...and they almost always are uneven..., the spokes with end up with uneven tension and the wheel won't be true anymore.

    Another mechanisms is spoke twist. If the spokes had a little twist to them when they were tensioned during the build, riding...with it's constant loading and unloading of the spoke...will relieve the twist. Some spokes might end up tighter and others looser and the wheel will be untrue.

    Tire pressure probably has the least effect on whether or not a wheel remains true. Riding style and impacts have more effect but probably not as much as you think. The build and attention to early maintenance of the wheel has the most effect on whether or not a wheel stays true long term.
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