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Old 06-03-11, 05:00 AM   #1
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Dealing with assaults.

I had an incident yesterday involving a motorist on my ride home. A full can of beer (Miller Lite, the cheap ass-hat couldn't even throw something drinkable.) was throw at me, whizzing inches from my head while I was on a street with a bike lane. I wasn't being a dick, I was just going home. I feel this crosses the line in a major way. Insults and shouts I can handle, but physical assault that could have put me in the hospital is a whole other realm.

How should I deal with things like this? I really, REALLY want to wait on this stretch of road today and hold up a chain and lock to show him how easily I can eff his world up too.
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Where did this take place and did you get a plate number?
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Old 06-03-11, 05:56 AM   #3
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This happened off of Highway 93 in Clemson, SC, car in question was an electric blue, custom painted Chevy Suburban with aftermarket wheels. I was too stunned to get the tags, but I am seriously considering waiting for this vehicle this afternoon, in a visible area, and capturing them as well as sending the message that I will not tolerate this crap.
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Sounds like an unusual vehicle. Not that it'll do anything, but you could report it to The Man.

Then again, if you do a little vigilante justice, The Man will come straight to your house if you reported them first.
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Sounds like an unusual vehicle. Not that it'll do anything, but you could report it to The Man.

Then again, if you do a little vigilante justice, The Man will come straight to your house if you reported them first.
I didn't plan on returning the favor or anything, just letting him know that I carry a heavy gauge chain and lock, and he might get the hint that it will do far, far greater damage to him and his vehicle if he chooses to try that **** again. Think friendly reminder.
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Old 06-03-11, 06:06 AM   #6
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Some local riders in my area got shot by somebody with a b.b. gun while on a group ride. No major injuries but WTF is wrong with people?!
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Some local riders in my area got shot by somebody with a b.b. gun while on a group ride. No major injuries but WTF is wrong with people?!
I have a theory that these same people that do this crap don't stay around for a reason: They are too chicken**** to face the epic beatdown they are going to receive. They are glorified school bullies, and I have a feeling they are so insecure that they just cannot STAND someone having a good day.

Related: When I first started a redneck in a pickup truck purposely tried to clip me with his trailer mirrors. I saw him laugh with his buddy. So I take off in high gear, hauling ass. The light in front of us turned red, and I caught up with him. He booked it and ran the light because I am sure I looked like Diablo himself.
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Chain/lock < gun

You never know what someone else is carrying so physical confrontation is not the answer. But I do understand your feelings though. Just try to take comfort in the knowledge that the universe has a way of dealing with twatwaffles like him.
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Sorry to hear about your incident, it seems like it is not to uncommon. I have read a couple of similar incidents on here, although I have never had one because I mainly ride on the trails, I have considered getting a camera of some sort mounted to my bike or helmet for when I get my road bike. If nothing else it could catch a plate number and would look to great to a jury.
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Old 06-03-11, 06:41 AM   #10
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I think the only realistic thing you can do is hope you see him again, get his plates and call the police. The thing is...he'll deny it, you have no witnesses and you weren't actually hurt. I'd probably file the report so there is a background on the guy being a schmuck.

I second not getting into violent confrontation or looking for vengeance. Someone crazy enough to throw a beer can at you is crazy enough to have baseball bat, or worse, and to do serious bodily harm. There is a growing class of angry people out there who have little in the way of job prospects or economic opportunity in this country and they have less to risk, and less at stake, when balancing risk-reward equations. Just from the truck description (and yes, I'm being stereotypical), this sounds like the kind of yahoo who could have a shot gun.

After my last incident, I'm going to start carrying industrial pepper spray.
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License ## call cops.
Forget the chain threat- he is driving a 5200 lb vehicle.
Try to get his license plate- you'll see this vehicle again.
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This is why I want camera's. To get the tag and document the event. That will take it from a "he said" event to video proof. There is some cheap small cameras on the market with reasonably good resolution. We are talking sub $40 range. There have been several threads about them.
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You should call the police, now, on this vehicle.

1. There might be other reports on this vehicle from other cyclists; they may already have a license plate and your report could help make the case against the driver.
2. You'll be on the record the next time it happens.

I wouldn't under any circumstances confront the driver directly.
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I would stake out the same road around the same time as your attack - perhaps it is his route to and from somewhere he goes daily. If i saw him again i would step out and take a picture and let him see you doing this - get him driving and tag number. If he stops and asks what are you doing i would say you assaulted me and i need evidence and then ride away. Also just keep your eyes open, sounds like this truck is easily recognizable.
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If i saw him again i would step out and take a picture and let him see you doing this - get him driving and tag number. If he stops and shoots you, we'll all talk about what a brave rider you were before you got killed.
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You should call the police, now, on this vehicle.

1. There might be other reports on this vehicle from other cyclists; they may already have a license plate and your report could help make the case against the driver.
2. You'll be on the record the next time it happens.

I wouldn't under any circumstances confront the driver directly.
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+1...being brave with other people's lives on the internet is silly.
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In my opinion, pressing charges for assault if you had the guys name and address would likely not lead to a conviction unless he pled guilty. He could say he didn't see you.

I know it's infuriating and what he did was likely assault. But he didn't hit you and you are still riding--in the big picture, this is a bump in the road. I hope you forgive and move on.
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That's a shame about his broken windows and four flat tires, I hope he has the extra cash to replace them. Oh and make sure you break out the windows with the same brand of beer, wear gloves.
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At the very least pressing charges establishes a history of behavior with this guy. Also it ruins his day and probably costs him some lawyer fees. That way when he does it again and again, it becomes a repetitive behavior and eventually he goes down for some serious time.
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I'm a little confused by what you folks mean by pressing charges. You can speak with police and/or a DA, but do any of you think a DA or police is "pressing charges" over what's happened so far? An individual doesn't "press charges". An individual reports what happened to law enforcement, and they decide whether to pursue things as society's representative. Nothing has happened so far...an "incident", which he'll deny, and that didn't hurt anyone, isn't going to court. The best case scenario here is getting a record of it happening to establish precendent for if/when he does it again and kills someone.
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I had a thing thrown at me once and it did hit my face. I got so pissed that I chased the guy down and almost rode up on him at the red light but he took off like a bat outta hell. But the brutal truth is 1. you beat the person senseless, the cops show up and you get arrested for assault. 2. Both of you get loud, the person pulls out a gun and it was your last bike ride... And the most ridiculous thing is that here in Florida, if someone feels threatened they can shoot you and get away with it =/
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+1 on the "ID the dooshbag by his/her vehicle and talk to the cops" angle

-1000 on the "take it out the person physically by flexing your muscle" angle

I hate ignorant cagers as much as the rest of us, but there's little to be gained from initiating a physical confrontation. Contact the fuzz, find out what their take is, and move on. Life is too short to get hung up on something like this. It was wrong for you to be treated like that, and unacceptable, but you have to realize that perpetuating the road rage is the wrong answer.
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You don't even need a camera- just fake camera and a sign on the back of your rack that says "My camera is recording your license plate number". Better to be preemptive about this stuff.
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Canned lite beer is unacceptable and the cops need to do something about it.
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