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I will be getting a new commuter in the next couple weeks. I will keep it in my office at work, and plan to use it for errands around town. For locking around town (San Francisco), I plan to go with either the BikeRegistry chain + padlock approach, OR get an Abus chain OR get an OnGuard or Kryptonite chain + u-lock solution. I will just keep the chain in a pannier or strap it on top of the rear rack. The chain seems like the easiest and best option for securing both wheels and the frame, quickly and easily when I am shopping.
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Well I decided to go with the tulsa chain ultimate security version(I wanted the ultimate MAX,but too pricey for my broke butt right now)
I ordered 3ft of this with the red cover.1.60 lbs per ft,so with out the lock it is 4.80lbs,so with a good beefy lock,should round out at less than 6 lbs.That outta add some weight to my JAMIS!!!!
I ordered 3ft of this with the red cover.1.60 lbs per ft,so with out the lock it is 4.80lbs,so with a good beefy lock,should round out at less than 6 lbs.That outta add some weight to my JAMIS!!!!
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I use an OnGuard Bulldog mini-U.
On my grocery bike I throw it in the Wald front basket.
On my beater roadie or my CX bike I stuff it in between a couple belt loops or in my back pocket. In the courier bag if I'm carrying that.
The beater roadie is also my commuter and I toss the lock in the pannier if I've brought it.
I have nutted axles on all my bikes so I'm less worried about wheel theft, although it's not impossible. I've got pretty distinct wheels and I've got my security message written on the rim strip, so if it ever ends up in a shop I'd like to think that the wrenches would actually call me. Rim strip says:
"Wheel is property of <real name>. If brought to shop, call <phone number>."
I do all my own wheel work (I built the wheels) so there's no reason my wheels would end up in a shop. If some jackass steals my front and then brings it somewhere, I hope I'd get it back.
I use the Sheldon Method for locking all my bikes, but I live in a low crime area and rarely leave my bike for much more than a pop-in at the grocery. Most of the time I'll even just wheel it in with me.
I locked my brand new CX bike up outside a bar with a concert going on right across the street and I pulled a "hipster high-lock"; hiked it up to the top crossbar of the adjacent fence, hooked the handlebar over top and locked up to the crossbar through the rear wheel. It's tough to pretend you're not stealing someone's bike when you have to work on it 8 feet up in the air. Nobody messed with it.
On my grocery bike I throw it in the Wald front basket.
On my beater roadie or my CX bike I stuff it in between a couple belt loops or in my back pocket. In the courier bag if I'm carrying that.
The beater roadie is also my commuter and I toss the lock in the pannier if I've brought it.
I have nutted axles on all my bikes so I'm less worried about wheel theft, although it's not impossible. I've got pretty distinct wheels and I've got my security message written on the rim strip, so if it ever ends up in a shop I'd like to think that the wrenches would actually call me. Rim strip says:
"Wheel is property of <real name>. If brought to shop, call <phone number>."
I do all my own wheel work (I built the wheels) so there's no reason my wheels would end up in a shop. If some jackass steals my front and then brings it somewhere, I hope I'd get it back.
I use the Sheldon Method for locking all my bikes, but I live in a low crime area and rarely leave my bike for much more than a pop-in at the grocery. Most of the time I'll even just wheel it in with me.
I locked my brand new CX bike up outside a bar with a concert going on right across the street and I pulled a "hipster high-lock"; hiked it up to the top crossbar of the adjacent fence, hooked the handlebar over top and locked up to the crossbar through the rear wheel. It's tough to pretend you're not stealing someone's bike when you have to work on it 8 feet up in the air. Nobody messed with it.
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I use an OnGuard Bulldog mini-U.
On my grocery bike I throw it in the Wald front basket.
On my beater roadie or my CX bike I stuff it in between a couple belt loops or in my back pocket. In the courier bag if I'm carrying that.
The beater roadie is also my commuter and I toss the lock in the pannier if I've brought it.
I have nutted axles on all my bikes so I'm less worried about wheel theft, although it's not impossible. I've got pretty distinct wheels and I've got my security message written on the rim strip, so if it ever ends up in a shop I'd like to think that the wrenches would actually call me. Rim strip says:
"Wheel is property of <real name>. If brought to shop, call <phone number>."
I do all my own wheel work (I built the wheels) so there's no reason my wheels would end up in a shop. If some jackass steals my front and then brings it somewhere, I hope I'd get it back.
I use the Sheldon Method for locking all my bikes, but I live in a low crime area and rarely leave my bike for much more than a pop-in at the grocery. Most of the time I'll even just wheel it in with me.
I locked my brand new CX bike up outside a bar with a concert going on right across the street and I pulled a "hipster high-lock"; hiked it up to the top crossbar of the adjacent fence, hooked the handlebar over top and locked up to the crossbar through the rear wheel. It's tough to pretend you're not stealing someone's bike when you have to work on it 8 feet up in the air. Nobody messed with it.
On my grocery bike I throw it in the Wald front basket.
On my beater roadie or my CX bike I stuff it in between a couple belt loops or in my back pocket. In the courier bag if I'm carrying that.
The beater roadie is also my commuter and I toss the lock in the pannier if I've brought it.
I have nutted axles on all my bikes so I'm less worried about wheel theft, although it's not impossible. I've got pretty distinct wheels and I've got my security message written on the rim strip, so if it ever ends up in a shop I'd like to think that the wrenches would actually call me. Rim strip says:
"Wheel is property of <real name>. If brought to shop, call <phone number>."
I do all my own wheel work (I built the wheels) so there's no reason my wheels would end up in a shop. If some jackass steals my front and then brings it somewhere, I hope I'd get it back.
I use the Sheldon Method for locking all my bikes, but I live in a low crime area and rarely leave my bike for much more than a pop-in at the grocery. Most of the time I'll even just wheel it in with me.
I locked my brand new CX bike up outside a bar with a concert going on right across the street and I pulled a "hipster high-lock"; hiked it up to the top crossbar of the adjacent fence, hooked the handlebar over top and locked up to the crossbar through the rear wheel. It's tough to pretend you're not stealing someone's bike when you have to work on it 8 feet up in the air. Nobody messed with it.
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AXA ring lock attached to the frame, front side of the seat stays. that closes around the rear rim/tire.
a chain made for the purpose by them, has a loop link on the end,
so the pin fitting and chain passes thru it, and around the fixed object,
and the pin goes in a locking catch on the right side of the lock,
opposite the key cylinder.
a chain made for the purpose by them, has a loop link on the end,
so the pin fitting and chain passes thru it, and around the fixed object,
and the pin goes in a locking catch on the right side of the lock,
opposite the key cylinder.
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It's Seattle's eastside and we're usually pretty laid back about things; but if the grocery wants to complain about my bicycle (which there is no law against, and it's really no different than my wife driving her mobility scoot from our apartment and then through the store) then I'll complain about the women who bring their little "fashion accessory" dogs in, too (which there is a law against.)
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I will post a photo when it's all together, but here is my plan as of today:
How do you lock your bike?
Frame + rear wheel to bike rack; secured front wheel/stem/seatpost
What kind of lock(s) do you use?
I just ordered an Abus 6500; will order front wheel/seat/headset Pitlocks tomorrow
How do you transport these lock(s)?
Frame-mounted to braze-ons
What grade do you think your bike would have gotten?
A
How do you lock your bike?
Frame + rear wheel to bike rack; secured front wheel/stem/seatpost
What kind of lock(s) do you use?
I just ordered an Abus 6500; will order front wheel/seat/headset Pitlocks tomorrow
How do you transport these lock(s)?
Frame-mounted to braze-ons
What grade do you think your bike would have gotten?
A
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I will post a photo when it's all together, but here is my plan as of today:
How do you lock your bike?
Frame + rear wheel to bike rack; secured front wheel/stem/seatpost
What kind of lock(s) do you use?
I just ordered an Abus 6500; will order front wheel/seat/headset Pitlocks tomorrow
How do you transport these lock(s)?
Frame-mounted to braze-ons
What grade do you think your bike would have gotten?
A
How do you lock your bike?
Frame + rear wheel to bike rack; secured front wheel/stem/seatpost
What kind of lock(s) do you use?
I just ordered an Abus 6500; will order front wheel/seat/headset Pitlocks tomorrow
How do you transport these lock(s)?
Frame-mounted to braze-ons
What grade do you think your bike would have gotten?
A
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I use a U-lock thru the frame (and front wheel when possible) around a pole or bike rack. I also carry a cable for wheels and helmet when I feel the need.
But after reading this thread I am totally going with the Sheldon method... thru the rear wheel, thru the rear triangle with a U-lock around a pole or bike rack.
Thanks.
But after reading this thread I am totally going with the Sheldon method... thru the rear wheel, thru the rear triangle with a U-lock around a pole or bike rack.
Thanks.
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These are what I use to lock my bike on my patio. I live in a condo and don't trust leaving it in the bike cage.
Kryptonite Fahgettaboutit Mini U Lock and Fahgettaboutit Chain and Disc lock combo. I custom cut some pewag chain that I have wrap against the pillar to use it as anchor.
Chain around the rear wheel and locked against the frame.
U-locked front tire to frame.
pinhead locking skewer
covered, almost looks like a BBQ
When I go out I only bring the Mini U lock and depending on the rack I'll either lock the seat stay and wheel or if doesn't fit I just lock the frame to the rack or post. I got locking skewers for the wheels and seat.
Kryptonite Fahgettaboutit Mini U Lock and Fahgettaboutit Chain and Disc lock combo. I custom cut some pewag chain that I have wrap against the pillar to use it as anchor.
Chain around the rear wheel and locked against the frame.
U-locked front tire to frame.
pinhead locking skewer
covered, almost looks like a BBQ
When I go out I only bring the Mini U lock and depending on the rack I'll either lock the seat stay and wheel or if doesn't fit I just lock the frame to the rack or post. I got locking skewers for the wheels and seat.
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These are what I use to lock my bike on my patio. I live in a condo and don't trust leaving it in the bike cage.
Kryptonite Fahgettaboutit Mini U Lock and Fahgettaboutit Chain and Disc lock combo. I custom cut some pewag chain that I have wrap against the pillar to use it as anchor.
Chain around the rear wheel and locked against the frame.
U-locked front tire to frame.
pinhead locking skewer
covered, almost looks like a BBQ
When I go out I only bring the Mini U lock and depending on the rack I'll either lock the seat stay and wheel or if doesn't fit I just lock the frame to the rack or post. I got locking skewers for the wheels and seat.
Kryptonite Fahgettaboutit Mini U Lock and Fahgettaboutit Chain and Disc lock combo. I custom cut some pewag chain that I have wrap against the pillar to use it as anchor.
Chain around the rear wheel and locked against the frame.
U-locked front tire to frame.
pinhead locking skewer
covered, almost looks like a BBQ
When I go out I only bring the Mini U lock and depending on the rack I'll either lock the seat stay and wheel or if doesn't fit I just lock the frame to the rack or post. I got locking skewers for the wheels and seat.
Well I think we have our 1st A+++ of the thread.Nobody is getting that thing unless they were to "case the joint",and by this I mean bring the exact tools they would need,at the precise time to have enough time to get it unlocked...Well done!!!
Is the "anchor chain" 3/8 inch case hardened chain? And where did you get it? I believe it looks like the same links as the "bikeregistrychain,which is also the same kind chain as the one I just ordered from Tulsa chain.
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Well I think we have our 1st A+++ of the thread.Nobody is getting that thing unless they were to "case the joint",and by this I mean bring the exact tools they would need,at the precise time to have enough time to get it unlocked...Well done!!!
Is the "anchor chain" 3/8 inch case hardened chain? And where did you get it? I believe it looks like the same links as the "bikeregistrychain,which is also the same kind chain as the one I just ordered from Tulsa chain.
Is the "anchor chain" 3/8 inch case hardened chain? And where did you get it? I believe it looks like the same links as the "bikeregistrychain,which is also the same kind chain as the one I just ordered from Tulsa chain.
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The locks I had posted in the original picture is gone,sold them today.I sold them for $3less than I paid,so didnt lose too much,and the chain for this new lock comes in for it tomorrow...The pic doesnt really do this lock justice,its a freakin tank.2lbs,haha!!!
and the new top tube bag arrived yesterday also......
and the new top tube bag arrived yesterday also......
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I have a question to your all: What are the circumstances when you have to leave your bike unattended for, say, more than 3 hours, to warrant expensive and heavy locks? (Beside the possibility that you have nowhere to keep your bike at home, so it has to be outside all the time.) Examples: shopping, going to movies...
For me, because I hate carrying heavy chains/kryptonites, I try not to leave my bike unattended as much as I can. If I leave it out of sight in an insecure area it will usually be only a few minutes. I'm Ok locking it with light locks if the area/time is not very prone to bike theft with tools, or if I can always check my bike from a window. If I just go for a ride and don't plan to park the bike during my ride, I simply bring a cable lock for a quick run to a drugstore or toilet on my way.
Bottom line, it seems to me those heavy locks are necessary only if (1) you leave your bike unattended in an theft-prone area for a relatively long time, (2) your bike is expensive/new.
Of course, this opinion comes from someone who what to lighten up as much as possible, and who has yet to be a victim of bike theft.
For me, because I hate carrying heavy chains/kryptonites, I try not to leave my bike unattended as much as I can. If I leave it out of sight in an insecure area it will usually be only a few minutes. I'm Ok locking it with light locks if the area/time is not very prone to bike theft with tools, or if I can always check my bike from a window. If I just go for a ride and don't plan to park the bike during my ride, I simply bring a cable lock for a quick run to a drugstore or toilet on my way.
Bottom line, it seems to me those heavy locks are necessary only if (1) you leave your bike unattended in an theft-prone area for a relatively long time, (2) your bike is expensive/new.
Of course, this opinion comes from someone who what to lighten up as much as possible, and who has yet to be a victim of bike theft.
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I have a question to your all: What are the circumstances when you have to leave your bike unattended for, say, more than 3 hours, to warrant expensive and heavy locks? (Beside the possibility that you have nowhere to keep your bike at home, so it has to be outside all the time.) Examples: shopping, going to movies...
For me, because I hate carrying heavy chains/kryptonites, I try not to leave my bike unattended as much as I can. If I leave it out of sight in an insecure area it will usually be only a few minutes. I'm Ok locking it with light locks if the area/time is not very prone to bike theft with tools, or if I can always check my bike from a window. If I just go for a ride and don't plan to park the bike during my ride, I simply bring a cable lock for a quick run to a drugstore or toilet on my way.
Bottom line, it seems to me those heavy locks are necessary only if (1) you leave your bike unattended in an theft-prone area for a relatively long time, (2) your bike is expensive/new.
Of course, this opinion comes from someone who what to lighten up as much as possible, and who has yet to be a victim of bike theft.
For me, because I hate carrying heavy chains/kryptonites, I try not to leave my bike unattended as much as I can. If I leave it out of sight in an insecure area it will usually be only a few minutes. I'm Ok locking it with light locks if the area/time is not very prone to bike theft with tools, or if I can always check my bike from a window. If I just go for a ride and don't plan to park the bike during my ride, I simply bring a cable lock for a quick run to a drugstore or toilet on my way.
Bottom line, it seems to me those heavy locks are necessary only if (1) you leave your bike unattended in an theft-prone area for a relatively long time, (2) your bike is expensive/new.
Of course, this opinion comes from someone who what to lighten up as much as possible, and who has yet to be a victim of bike theft.
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I believe in the Sheldon Brown method, but since the shackle on my u-lock is large, and therefore vulnerable to bottle jack attack, I prefer to pass it through the seatstays. My chain goes through both wheels and the frame.
Magnum 3000 u-lock, PB Transport/Storage Chain/Mini u-lock combo. Yes, the chain is big & heavy, and in many cases overkill, but its full two meter length means I can lock the bike up anywhere. I try to leave the chain where I would normally park the bike, and when I do I use this cable lock to back up my u-lock.
The chain or cable I wrap around the seatpost, and to transport the u-lock I invested in a cool ABUS UGH 02 bracket. Quite slick, IMHO:
I'd expect a solid "A".
Magnum 3000 u-lock, PB Transport/Storage Chain/Mini u-lock combo. Yes, the chain is big & heavy, and in many cases overkill, but its full two meter length means I can lock the bike up anywhere. I try to leave the chain where I would normally park the bike, and when I do I use this cable lock to back up my u-lock.
The chain or cable I wrap around the seatpost, and to transport the u-lock I invested in a cool ABUS UGH 02 bracket. Quite slick, IMHO:
I'd expect a solid "A".
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I believe in the Sheldon Brown method, but since the shackle on my u-lock is large, and therefore vulnerable to bottle jack attack, I prefer to pass it through the seatstays. My chain goes through both wheels and the frame.
Magnum 3000 u-lock, PB Transport/Storage Chain/Mini u-lock combo. Yes, the chain is big & heavy, and in many cases overkill, but its full two meter length means I can lock the bike up anywhere. I try to leave the chain where I would normally park the bike, and when I do I use this cable lock to back up my u-lock.
The chain or cable I wrap around the seatpost, and to transport the u-lock I invested in a cool ABUS UGH 02 bracket. Quite slick, IMHO:
I'd expect a solid "A".
Magnum 3000 u-lock, PB Transport/Storage Chain/Mini u-lock combo. Yes, the chain is big & heavy, and in many cases overkill, but its full two meter length means I can lock the bike up anywhere. I try to leave the chain where I would normally park the bike, and when I do I use this cable lock to back up my u-lock.
The chain or cable I wrap around the seatpost, and to transport the u-lock I invested in a cool ABUS UGH 02 bracket. Quite slick, IMHO:
I'd expect a solid "A".
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the cyclops, agreed, peace of mind, that is very important. (I actually do live in NYC.)
Now another question: what about the wheels and saddle? Most (almost all) people lock them with a crappy cable lock. Why the thieves didn't take these easy stuffs has always baffled me. It is not much better if you come out of the coffee shop and found you bike is missing a wheel, or the saddle, especially if you are far away from home. So in my opinion locking the wheels and seat with cable locks can't provide peace of mind.
Incidentally, the other day I saw a guy in the subway train, who had his own bike in the train, but was also carrying a separate wheel in his hand. He didn't look very innocent to me...
Now another question: what about the wheels and saddle? Most (almost all) people lock them with a crappy cable lock. Why the thieves didn't take these easy stuffs has always baffled me. It is not much better if you come out of the coffee shop and found you bike is missing a wheel, or the saddle, especially if you are far away from home. So in my opinion locking the wheels and seat with cable locks can't provide peace of mind.
Incidentally, the other day I saw a guy in the subway train, who had his own bike in the train, but was also carrying a separate wheel in his hand. He didn't look very innocent to me...
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Ha! That may have been me. I have been building my new bike at a co-op workshop, since I don't have all the tools/stand/space I need at home. I hardly bought any parts, as I've cannibalized my other stuff, a friend's old bike, etc, but that means at first I had to carry in not only my frame and fork, for example, but also the frameset from which I was removing the headset, etc. Carrying two frames over my shoulder, a wheel to true in one hand and a fork in another at rush hour, and having to switch trains at least once each way, I've gotten some funny looks (and other gestures.)
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So the real question now is, what mini u-lock to buy... I own a Club Ultra Bike Jr, or something like that. It's made by the same people that make "The Club" for car steering wheels and I can't say anything other than that it hasn't failed me so far for the last few years but my girlfriend just got a bike, so we need a second lock. Here are the requirements:
1. size: I don't want to carry a big chain around. Though I commute, it's mainly because/when I want to, otherwise the subway works fine. I ride because I enjoy it and if I stop enjoying it, there's no point.
2. frame-only needed but room for more is nice: see above; I have wheels, seatpost etc secured through Pitlock, so that I need only quickly clip the lock to something stationary. See above re fun and convenience, plus quickness necessary--if I have to add 5 mins each to secure and unsecure the bike at grocery/cafe, then the 5 min ride vs 20 min walk no longer makes sense. It would be nice, however, to be able to lock 2 bikes to one post w/ one lock when needed.
3. I will carry lock in basket, bag, etc, so accessory mount not really a concern but size/weight is, though not too much of one.
I am prob interested in comparisons of Krypto NY Fahgeddaboutit, OnGuard Mini Bulldog, Club Bike Ultra Jr and other similars.
Anyone know if the Krypto NYFU thing of multiple locks having the same key has been remedied?
1. size: I don't want to carry a big chain around. Though I commute, it's mainly because/when I want to, otherwise the subway works fine. I ride because I enjoy it and if I stop enjoying it, there's no point.
2. frame-only needed but room for more is nice: see above; I have wheels, seatpost etc secured through Pitlock, so that I need only quickly clip the lock to something stationary. See above re fun and convenience, plus quickness necessary--if I have to add 5 mins each to secure and unsecure the bike at grocery/cafe, then the 5 min ride vs 20 min walk no longer makes sense. It would be nice, however, to be able to lock 2 bikes to one post w/ one lock when needed.
3. I will carry lock in basket, bag, etc, so accessory mount not really a concern but size/weight is, though not too much of one.
I am prob interested in comparisons of Krypto NY Fahgeddaboutit, OnGuard Mini Bulldog, Club Bike Ultra Jr and other similars.
Anyone know if the Krypto NYFU thing of multiple locks having the same key has been remedied?