Have You Been Assaulted by Man or Animal?
08-27-11, 11:51 AM
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See, the thing is I am a life long animal lover. I have had dogs and as a child, skunks, rabbits, a deer, two owls, a wounded hawk, a bunch of pigeons, snakes, rats, an alligator, yes, I grew up in the swamps of Louisiana. Lots of animals. But, now I am terrified of certain dogs and I cannot predict what dog will terrify me. It is like a wave of panic that flows over me, my adreniline pumps, a full blown panic attack. Just as those of us who have never been in combat cannot fully understand that horror, neither can those who have not been attacked by a deadly animal and had to fight for their life with a broken bone sticking out of their leg.
I will try to remain calm, I will try to avoid those places I know such animals are but I am not going to lock myself in the house because people now choose to own dangerous animals and allow them to roam because it goes with their tatoos. No, I will continue to ride and now I carry.
I solo backpacked for nearly a month in Montana, I was chased by a griz. About 1990, backpacking in Arizona, I was ghosted by a cougar. Scuba diving in the Gulf a bullshark got kind of ornery with me.
Here I am being attacked by a giant stingray:
LC
I will try to remain calm, I will try to avoid those places I know such animals are but I am not going to lock myself in the house because people now choose to own dangerous animals and allow them to roam because it goes with their tatoos. No, I will continue to ride and now I carry.
I solo backpacked for nearly a month in Montana, I was chased by a griz. About 1990, backpacking in Arizona, I was ghosted by a cougar. Scuba diving in the Gulf a bullshark got kind of ornery with me.
Here I am being attacked by a giant stingray:
LC
I understand your feeling about dogs. What might help is learning how to read their body language. Here is a decent guide:
https://www.moderndogmagazine.com/art...y-language/415
I was a mailman for 10 years. I learned how to read a dog's body language. I classify them a little differently than the usual guides. Here is what works for me:
Playful
Behavior: Dog is jumping around, possibly on you. The dog will lower its head low as it jumps around. It will also bark occasionally. Tail is up and wagging.
Assessment: A dog showing this behavior is not dangerous. It might nip you playfully but it only want to play. Ride away from this dog if it annoys you or grab a stick and play fetch.
Guarding
Behavior: Dog is constantly barking. It runs up to within 5-10ft and continues to bark at you. It follows you around until you leave its territory. Tail is also up and may be wagging.
Assessment: This dog is protecting its territory and generally will not harm you unless you do something threatening. Face the dog and walk away from it. Do NOT turn your back on it or run. Doing so will trigger its predator instincts and it will bite you. If you are riding, then weave back and forth so the dog can't get to close to your legs. It will stop chasing you once you are out of its territory.
Attacking
Behavior: The dog will not make any sounds. The only sound you will hear of it coming is its claws on pavement which sound just like leaves rustling. It runs right at you and bites. Some breeds (Pit Bulls) will leap at you to try to knock you over so that it can get to your vitals.
Assessment: A dog showing this behavior is the most dangerous of all. It sees you are prey and intends to do serious harm to you. Ride away as quickly as you can and weave between obstacles. If you are knocked off of your bicycle, then use your bicycle as a barrier between yourself and the dog. Use any form of personal protection that you have. Get away from the dog and the area as soon as you can and call animal control.
If you get knocked on the ground, the dog will try to bite your throat. Sacrifice an arm and place it in the dog's mouth, then gouge its eyes to get it off of you. It is better to get bitten on your arm than your face or throat.
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I understand your feeling about dogs. What might help is learning how to read their body language. Here is a decent guide:
https://www.moderndogmagazine.com/art...y-language/415
I was a mailman for 10 years. I learned how to read a dog's body language. I classify them a little differently than the usual guides. Here is what works for me:
Playful
Behavior: Dog is jumping around, possibly on you. The dog will lower its head low as it jumps around. It will also bark occasionally. Tail is up and wagging.
Assessment: A dog showing this behavior is not dangerous. It might nip you playfully but it only want to play. Ride away from this dog if it annoys you or grab a stick and play fetch.
Guarding
Behavior: Dog is constantly barking. It runs up to within 5-10ft and continues to bark at you. It follows you around until you leave its territory. Tail is also up and may be wagging.
Assessment: This dog is protecting its territory and generally will not harm you unless you do something threatening. Face the dog and walk away from it. Do NOT turn your back on it or run. Doing so will trigger its predator instincts and it will bite you. If you are riding, then weave back and forth so the dog can't get to close to your legs. It will stop chasing you once you are out of its territory.
Attacking
Behavior: The dog will not make any sounds. The only sound you will hear of it coming is its claws on pavement which sound just like leaves rustling. It runs right at you and bites. Some breeds (Pit Bulls) will leap at you to try to knock you over so that it can get to your vitals.
Assessment: A dog showing this behavior is the most dangerous of all. It sees you are prey and intends to do serious harm to you. Ride away as quickly as you can and weave between obstacles. If you are knocked off of your bicycle, then use your bicycle as a barrier between yourself and the dog. Use any form of personal protection that you have. Get away from the dog and the area as soon as you can and call animal control.
If you get knocked on the ground, the dog will try to bite your throat. Sacrifice an arm and place it in the dog's mouth, then gouge its eyes to get it off of you. It is better to get bitten on your arm than your face or throat.
https://www.moderndogmagazine.com/art...y-language/415
I was a mailman for 10 years. I learned how to read a dog's body language. I classify them a little differently than the usual guides. Here is what works for me:
Playful
Behavior: Dog is jumping around, possibly on you. The dog will lower its head low as it jumps around. It will also bark occasionally. Tail is up and wagging.
Assessment: A dog showing this behavior is not dangerous. It might nip you playfully but it only want to play. Ride away from this dog if it annoys you or grab a stick and play fetch.
Guarding
Behavior: Dog is constantly barking. It runs up to within 5-10ft and continues to bark at you. It follows you around until you leave its territory. Tail is also up and may be wagging.
Assessment: This dog is protecting its territory and generally will not harm you unless you do something threatening. Face the dog and walk away from it. Do NOT turn your back on it or run. Doing so will trigger its predator instincts and it will bite you. If you are riding, then weave back and forth so the dog can't get to close to your legs. It will stop chasing you once you are out of its territory.
Attacking
Behavior: The dog will not make any sounds. The only sound you will hear of it coming is its claws on pavement which sound just like leaves rustling. It runs right at you and bites. Some breeds (Pit Bulls) will leap at you to try to knock you over so that it can get to your vitals.
Assessment: A dog showing this behavior is the most dangerous of all. It sees you are prey and intends to do serious harm to you. Ride away as quickly as you can and weave between obstacles. If you are knocked off of your bicycle, then use your bicycle as a barrier between yourself and the dog. Use any form of personal protection that you have. Get away from the dog and the area as soon as you can and call animal control.
If you get knocked on the ground, the dog will try to bite your throat. Sacrifice an arm and place it in the dog's mouth, then gouge its eyes to get it off of you. It is better to get bitten on your arm than your face or throat.
Dude, did you miss the part where I said I have owned dogs all of my life and animals? Which part of not understanding the concept of a post traumatic phobia do you not understand? What part of seeing your femur bone sticking out of your leg and blood spilling on to the pavement as you fight for your life do you not understand? I know what I did, post broken leg and another dog incident, I went and got me a XD 40S&W compact and a big can of Mace pepper spray.
OK, what is this dog about to do? I know the answer, let's see if you do?
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08-27-11, 12:50 PM
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Dude, did you miss the part where I said I have owned dogs all of my life and animals? Which part of not understanding the concept of a post traumatic phobia do you not understand? What part of seeing your femur bone sticking out of your leg and blood spilling on to the pavement as you fight for your life do you not understand? I know what I did, post broken leg and another dog incident, I went and got me a XD 40S&W compact and a big can of Mace pepper spray.
OK, what is this dog about to do? I know the answer, let's see if you do?
OK, what is this dog about to do? I know the answer, let's see if you do?
I am sorry you took offense to what I posted. None was intended. I hope you get over you PTSD.
With regards to the photo, it is inconclusive. Behavior cannot be determined from a single photo. You have to see the dog in action such as in person or in video.
08-27-11, 01:17 PM
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I'm an animal lover too but bad dogs need to go. Still, don't you think a 22 would just piss off a 100 pound dog?
08-27-11, 01:20 PM
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OK. With a 40 and you having the position to get this picture? I'd say this was that dog's last day on 4 legs. Those kind of dogs should never have been brought to this planet.
08-27-11, 01:42 PM
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I have already posted my photos of my badly broken femur as a result of being attacked, ambushed, by two pitt bull type dogs who then continued to attack me while on the ground and I had to fight them off with a bone sticking out of my leg by punching them and hitting them with my helmet. Not to mention yet another encounter shortly after I started riding again that finally prompted me to carry a weapon.
These people, some here, who say there are no dangerous dogs, they are being foolish and stupid, sorry. Just as some dogs are bread to herd or point birds or retrieve, some are bread to fight and kill in pitts, hence PITT bull. They are a fighting dog. Certain other breeds are known man killers. Yes, any dog can be dangerous if he gets under your wheel, no argument there but to deny that some breeds are downright dangerous and like carrying a gun with a broken safety with a round in the chamber. Ridiculous to deny it. I was there, they tried to kill me and nearly did. Why, all of a sudden it is fashionable to own pitt bulls or other dangerous dogs I can only speculate but just as if I left a loaded gun in a playground I would be responsible, so are people who allow such dangerous animals to roam unrestrained are RESPONSIBLE for what happens--not me.
I now carry dog "Mace" pepper spray and I also carry a XD subcompact in 40S&W or a S&W nine shot 22 Mag with defense rounds loaded up. Yes, I have a concealed carry license and while I have had it for many years, I never, ever carried a weapon except to the occasional range practice session. I now carry anytime I am on my bike going away from my house. I do not carry in my car etc. Just on the bike.
I now have a phobia since being attacked. I wake up screaming and kicking and punching. My leg hurts, it has a titanium rod and my require a third surgery. I missed two months of work and nearly 6 months of active life. My leg will never be the same and I can no longer run or do triathlons etc.
Some people may want to own dangerous animals, well, now I am dangerous. If I can control my terrifying fear that now overwhelms me whenever I am around dogs I perceive--I PERCEIVE--I don't care what you (generic) think I should feel and the law does not require me to justify--only be genuinely fearful of harm and I can use deadly force and I intend to. If I can control my fear I will use the Mace, if not, I am shooting them and I will not shed a single tear. Oh, and the sheriff told me to shoot the c--p out them and he had my back. Seems the sheriff is sick of killer dogs as well.
Yeah, if you think I am p--- off, you would be right. Yeah, I am the one who had to get a shot in my stomach every day for three months that hurt like heXX to prevent blood clots from lodging in my brain. Oh, and the blood transfusion with blood from who knows who!!!!!!! So, (generic) y'all go ahead and get dangerous dogs and let them roam, I will oblige (generic) you but putting a .40 caliber hole right through them if they get near me.
BTW, about shooting pellet guns etc at dogs, do not do that. You will be arrested. The law allows you to defend yourself with deadly force if you --YOU--feel you are in danger of serious injury or death or your property or loved ones. Shooting something to injure it or brandishing guns is illegal. Shooting to STOP is LEGAL. That is right, you shoot to stop. That means you do not leg someone or some animal or shoot over the head. You must shoot to stop or the law will perceive that you were not genuinely fearful for injury or life. I specifically said STOP, not kill. If death results from being stopped, oh well. You must use a warning as in --STOP-- or in the case of a dog, get away, stop, sit, etc. If this does not stop the animal and I/you are indeed fearful then you shoot to STOP him.
LC
These people, some here, who say there are no dangerous dogs, they are being foolish and stupid, sorry. Just as some dogs are bread to herd or point birds or retrieve, some are bread to fight and kill in pitts, hence PITT bull. They are a fighting dog. Certain other breeds are known man killers. Yes, any dog can be dangerous if he gets under your wheel, no argument there but to deny that some breeds are downright dangerous and like carrying a gun with a broken safety with a round in the chamber. Ridiculous to deny it. I was there, they tried to kill me and nearly did. Why, all of a sudden it is fashionable to own pitt bulls or other dangerous dogs I can only speculate but just as if I left a loaded gun in a playground I would be responsible, so are people who allow such dangerous animals to roam unrestrained are RESPONSIBLE for what happens--not me.
I now carry dog "Mace" pepper spray and I also carry a XD subcompact in 40S&W or a S&W nine shot 22 Mag with defense rounds loaded up. Yes, I have a concealed carry license and while I have had it for many years, I never, ever carried a weapon except to the occasional range practice session. I now carry anytime I am on my bike going away from my house. I do not carry in my car etc. Just on the bike.
I now have a phobia since being attacked. I wake up screaming and kicking and punching. My leg hurts, it has a titanium rod and my require a third surgery. I missed two months of work and nearly 6 months of active life. My leg will never be the same and I can no longer run or do triathlons etc.
Some people may want to own dangerous animals, well, now I am dangerous. If I can control my terrifying fear that now overwhelms me whenever I am around dogs I perceive--I PERCEIVE--I don't care what you (generic) think I should feel and the law does not require me to justify--only be genuinely fearful of harm and I can use deadly force and I intend to. If I can control my fear I will use the Mace, if not, I am shooting them and I will not shed a single tear. Oh, and the sheriff told me to shoot the c--p out them and he had my back. Seems the sheriff is sick of killer dogs as well.
Yeah, if you think I am p--- off, you would be right. Yeah, I am the one who had to get a shot in my stomach every day for three months that hurt like heXX to prevent blood clots from lodging in my brain. Oh, and the blood transfusion with blood from who knows who!!!!!!! So, (generic) y'all go ahead and get dangerous dogs and let them roam, I will oblige (generic) you but putting a .40 caliber hole right through them if they get near me.
BTW, about shooting pellet guns etc at dogs, do not do that. You will be arrested. The law allows you to defend yourself with deadly force if you --YOU--feel you are in danger of serious injury or death or your property or loved ones. Shooting something to injure it or brandishing guns is illegal. Shooting to STOP is LEGAL. That is right, you shoot to stop. That means you do not leg someone or some animal or shoot over the head. You must shoot to stop or the law will perceive that you were not genuinely fearful for injury or life. I specifically said STOP, not kill. If death results from being stopped, oh well. You must use a warning as in --STOP-- or in the case of a dog, get away, stop, sit, etc. If this does not stop the animal and I/you are indeed fearful then you shoot to STOP him.
LC
I go back to the day before I was married at 20 years old. My apartment was full of my family, immediate and kin. Three drug addicts came knocking on my door, I saw one with a gun and two with baseball bats. I didn't know them but the police told me and my neighbors they might be around. Rather than let them in, I went outside. I was pistol wipped and beat with baseball bats. I wasn't even who they were looking for. Here, 32 years later I'd plant all 3 of the peices of **** if I had half a chance.
Blast from the past. Thanks for the frtesh rant.
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The answer was, he attacked, he was thrusting his head through my frame and snapping as hard as he could. It took three shots of Mace to back him off. No, I did not shoot him.
LC
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LC--You certainly had a horrible experience, and my heart goes out to you.
As a fellow animal lover, though, I would like to say that the vast majority of dogs are not deadly or even dangerous, and to punish them, especially with death, for the actions of another just wouldn't be right. I think some dogs just like to chase things, but that doesn't mean they'll attack. I hope you have no more dog encounters of any kind, and that with time, your new fear of them will subside.
And I totally agree that it is insane that some people want to own and train a dog to be mean to "enhance" their pathetic image. Disgusting.
All the best to you--
As a fellow animal lover, though, I would like to say that the vast majority of dogs are not deadly or even dangerous, and to punish them, especially with death, for the actions of another just wouldn't be right. I think some dogs just like to chase things, but that doesn't mean they'll attack. I hope you have no more dog encounters of any kind, and that with time, your new fear of them will subside.
And I totally agree that it is insane that some people want to own and train a dog to be mean to "enhance" their pathetic image. Disgusting.
All the best to you--
08-27-11, 04:33 PM
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I don't think I saw the part where he said he's punish all dogs because a very few are mean. I certainly wouldn't hard anything unless in serious danger.
08-27-11, 11:12 PM
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I have dropped an aggressive coyote in it's tracks with a single shot from a 22. (it was attacking my cat) and a well placed triple tap will (IMHO) stop most dogs cold.
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Never on my bike have I had any issues, the past year I've carried a rather large deterrent in the shame on an M4, back home I will probably not have much more than my baton on the top tube
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No, my cameras in america but i just took the holster it came with and zip tied it to the top of the top tube very fast access.
Edit: Also note I am not familiar with state side laws on carrying something like a baton, I'm certain a lot of states would frown upon it and you would need to check your local LEOs to be certain.
But the rig I have set up now uses an ASP held in a https://www.uscav.com/productinfo.asp...7142&tabid=548 zip tied to my top tube on my PX special when I went out on patrol I would carry the baton on the back of my belt
Edit: Also note I am not familiar with state side laws on carrying something like a baton, I'm certain a lot of states would frown upon it and you would need to check your local LEOs to be certain.
But the rig I have set up now uses an ASP held in a https://www.uscav.com/productinfo.asp...7142&tabid=548 zip tied to my top tube on my PX special when I went out on patrol I would carry the baton on the back of my belt
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08-29-11, 07:44 AM
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Look at this. And, these numbers are consistant with other studies I've seen. Particularly, check out the deaths. Whereas some breeds are responsible for 0 or, 1 or, 6 the pits are far and away disproportionately responsible for most. It really shouldn't surprise us that these are aggressive, capable dogs-they've been bred for exactly those characteristics. So, we're all entitled to our opinions but, we're not entitled to our own facts-clear evidence that we may legitemately identifiy these dogs as dangerous or, "inherently dangerous" (using the example of a snippy chihauhau or poodle cannot negate the fact that pits are simply more dangerous).
https://www.thedailybeast.com/article...og-breeds.html
https://www.thedailybeast.com/article...og-breeds.html
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No, my wife took the photos, she was freaked, Droid phone, called 911. Sheriff issued fine to owner and warning. I Maced the dog.
The answer was, he attacked, he was thrusting his head through my frame and snapping as hard as he could. It took three shots of Mace to back him off. No, I did not shoot him.
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The answer was, he attacked, he was thrusting his head through my frame and snapping as hard as he could. It took three shots of Mace to back him off. No, I did not shoot him.
LC
08-29-11, 08:29 AM
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I have never been assaulted by an animal, but I do get hassled by men yelling weird and sexual things at me more days than not. I have had a couple grab at me too.
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I understand your feeling about dogs. What might help is learning how to read their body language. Here is a decent guide:
https://www.moderndogmagazine.com/art...y-language/415
I was a mailman for 10 years. I learned how to read a dog's body language. I classify them a little differently than the usual guides. Here is what works for me:
Playful
Behavior: Dog is jumping around, possibly on you. The dog will lower its head low as it jumps around. It will also bark occasionally. Tail is up and wagging.
Assessment: A dog showing this behavior is not dangerous. It might nip you playfully but it only want to play. Ride away from this dog if it annoys you or grab a stick and play fetch.
Guarding
Behavior: Dog is constantly barking. It runs up to within 5-10ft and continues to bark at you. It follows you around until you leave its territory. Tail is also up and may be wagging.
Assessment: This dog is protecting its territory and generally will not harm you unless you do something threatening. Face the dog and walk away from it. Do NOT turn your back on it or run. Doing so will trigger its predator instincts and it will bite you. If you are riding, then weave back and forth so the dog can't get to close to your legs. It will stop chasing you once you are out of its territory.
Attacking
Behavior: The dog will not make any sounds. The only sound you will hear of it coming is its claws on pavement which sound just like leaves rustling. It runs right at you and bites. Some breeds (Pit Bulls) will leap at you to try to knock you over so that it can get to your vitals.
Assessment: A dog showing this behavior is the most dangerous of all. It sees you are prey and intends to do serious harm to you. Ride away as quickly as you can and weave between obstacles. If you are knocked off of your bicycle, then use your bicycle as a barrier between yourself and the dog. Use any form of personal protection that you have. Get away from the dog and the area as soon as you can and call animal control.
If you get knocked on the ground, the dog will try to bite your throat. Sacrifice an arm and place it in the dog's mouth, then gouge its eyes to get it off of you. It is better to get bitten on your arm than your face or throat.
https://www.moderndogmagazine.com/art...y-language/415
I was a mailman for 10 years. I learned how to read a dog's body language. I classify them a little differently than the usual guides. Here is what works for me:
Playful
Behavior: Dog is jumping around, possibly on you. The dog will lower its head low as it jumps around. It will also bark occasionally. Tail is up and wagging.
Assessment: A dog showing this behavior is not dangerous. It might nip you playfully but it only want to play. Ride away from this dog if it annoys you or grab a stick and play fetch.
Guarding
Behavior: Dog is constantly barking. It runs up to within 5-10ft and continues to bark at you. It follows you around until you leave its territory. Tail is also up and may be wagging.
Assessment: This dog is protecting its territory and generally will not harm you unless you do something threatening. Face the dog and walk away from it. Do NOT turn your back on it or run. Doing so will trigger its predator instincts and it will bite you. If you are riding, then weave back and forth so the dog can't get to close to your legs. It will stop chasing you once you are out of its territory.
Attacking
Behavior: The dog will not make any sounds. The only sound you will hear of it coming is its claws on pavement which sound just like leaves rustling. It runs right at you and bites. Some breeds (Pit Bulls) will leap at you to try to knock you over so that it can get to your vitals.
Assessment: A dog showing this behavior is the most dangerous of all. It sees you are prey and intends to do serious harm to you. Ride away as quickly as you can and weave between obstacles. If you are knocked off of your bicycle, then use your bicycle as a barrier between yourself and the dog. Use any form of personal protection that you have. Get away from the dog and the area as soon as you can and call animal control.
If you get knocked on the ground, the dog will try to bite your throat. Sacrifice an arm and place it in the dog's mouth, then gouge its eyes to get it off of you. It is better to get bitten on your arm than your face or throat.
08-29-11, 09:31 AM
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Growing up in the country, getting chased by a dog was a pretty common occurrence. I just used it as an excuse to put on a little more speed, although in retrospect that probably just encouraged the behavior in the dogs. Many never even left their yards, but ran along with me to the end of their property. Some took to the road, but never caught up to me. A few memorable incidents:
One house had a dog that regularly gave chase. I took that dog a little more seriously as it seemed like it really wanted a bite moreso than a chase or to keep me out of its yard. I used to pass that house on the far side of the road no matter which direction I was going, but one day the dog decided to come across the road after me and was hit. Hard enough to break a turn signal cover on the car and send the dog flying a few feet, but it got up and slunk away.
One dog didn't go for the chase at all. It saw me coming and planted itself right in front of me. I had to come to a quick stop to avoid hitting it, which turned out to be a mistake. As soon as I stopped, the dog latched on to my calf. Yells from the owner got it to let go, and I took off, but I had scars from those bites for years.
One little, toy dog came running out its yard after me. Thing was so small that I'm not sure it could have grabbed my ankle on the downstroke, but that didn't stop it from giving chase and barking like a maniac. I thought it was funny, but the little boy in the yard took it seriously, yelling at his little dog to get it to stop the chase: "Stop! Come back! Rambo! Come back here, Rambo! Rambo!!!!"
Rambo eventually gave up and returned home, but I got a good laugh at his expense.
One house had a dog that regularly gave chase. I took that dog a little more seriously as it seemed like it really wanted a bite moreso than a chase or to keep me out of its yard. I used to pass that house on the far side of the road no matter which direction I was going, but one day the dog decided to come across the road after me and was hit. Hard enough to break a turn signal cover on the car and send the dog flying a few feet, but it got up and slunk away.
One dog didn't go for the chase at all. It saw me coming and planted itself right in front of me. I had to come to a quick stop to avoid hitting it, which turned out to be a mistake. As soon as I stopped, the dog latched on to my calf. Yells from the owner got it to let go, and I took off, but I had scars from those bites for years.
One little, toy dog came running out its yard after me. Thing was so small that I'm not sure it could have grabbed my ankle on the downstroke, but that didn't stop it from giving chase and barking like a maniac. I thought it was funny, but the little boy in the yard took it seriously, yelling at his little dog to get it to stop the chase: "Stop! Come back! Rambo! Come back here, Rambo! Rambo!!!!"
Rambo eventually gave up and returned home, but I got a good laugh at his expense.
08-29-11, 11:33 AM
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Growing up in the country, getting chased by a dog was a pretty common occurrence. I just used it as an excuse to put on a little more speed, although in retrospect that probably just encouraged the behavior in the dogs. Many never even left their yards, but ran along with me to the end of their property. Some took to the road, but never caught up to me. A few memorable incidents...
The first time they burst out of those shrubs onto the road, I was so shocked I almost fell over. It was like two small rockets blasting out and yapping, rushing straight for my shoelaces. Damn!
2. This one is a two-fer punch.
On one side of the road, is a large Husky type dog. This one barks loudly, but it's pretty old. It cannot really give much chase. It's hearing is good, though, and it will start barking at me well before I get there. Ir runs out from it's resting spot a few yards, barking and acting tough. But that's about it.
Meanwhile... the spry dog across the road has taken notice of the commotion. It's a big, tan dog, maybe 50-60 lbs., and it is in GOOD condition. It lies in ambush on the side of an old house, 10 yards off the road, waiting for me to pass. When I am directly in front, it will spring from its hiding place and come hell bent for me. It doesn't really give me the impression of an earnest attack, but I take no chances. It's clever and I give it no leeway. I shift into sprint mode and lay on the steam when I pass that section.
The bad thing is, this area is about a quarter mile beyond the peak of a grinding, mile-long climb. No rest for me when I go that way!
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08-29-11, 11:57 AM
#95
You gonna eat that?
I do. A well-timed squirt with the water bottle always gives pause to my attackers (dogs).
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08-29-11, 02:38 PM
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The Camel Back water bottles have valves in them that only open when you squeeze the bottle hard enough. This lets you get more velocity in your water as you squirt those pesky dogs.
11-26-11, 12:46 PM
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I also got a hold of a used baton (asp) that was given to me by a security guard. I was concerned about the legal implications and mjw16's research (see quote below) seems to indicate that they are not as "sticky" as more lethal methods. Can anyone confirm? Does that change based on locality? Every now and then I run into teenage hoodlums purposely causing trouble. One time a car full of them stopped, opened up the door in my path, and jumped out with a screwdriver. The geniuses didn't realized that once on foot, I'm a bit more agile them them. However, jackrabbits don't always get away, so my plan is to (if I can manage, is to call 911, leave the phone off the hook, and confront with a baton).
... After a discussion with a co-worker, he gave me an old 16" collapsable baton he had (in trade for a beach cruiser I fixed up for his wife). I've since kept it in the umbrella pouch of my backpack, nestled right up againts the small of my back-as a test of it's practicality. It's (relatively) light, unobtrusive and, accessible. I also like the fact that it's a less than lethal, legal to carry weapon that would seem to be extremely effective in many encounters. I've also been studying tactical use of the baton as well as the legal implications. I have to admit that, although I've never felt that I've really needed it, it's nice to know that it's there-as an option. I also like the fact that it's considered a moderate force weapon, not necassarily lethal. I don't have to worry about accidental discharge or, ricochets, nor, do I have to worry that a wrongful deployment of it will cause the severity of injury that a gun or knife might, it also doesn't have the reach of a gun for instance. I'm still on the fence about it, my buddy says 'why not have it?', just in case, it doesn't really have and adverse affects on me (other than a small weight penalty) and, if needed, could be very persuasive. The only the I really need to do is add a lanyard of some kind to it, allowing that to dangle from it's storage for quicker access. Right now I can get to it and, it's hidden but, it takes a few addtional seconds to dig out. We'll see if it stays, I'm still kind of ambivilant.
11-26-11, 03:19 PM
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Interesting that this thread should come back to life today - a cyclist killed a dog in my town on Thanksgiving day and the story is getting a lot of attention. I know that online newspapers' comments forums aren't really a good representation of the populace (or of humans even,) but the anti-cyclist crowd is having a field day. Meanwhile, the same paper has a story about a guy in the Florida Keys getting arrested for killing a kitten for sport, and it gets two comments....
11-26-11, 03:28 PM
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Bicycle Repair Man !!!
Assaulted implies that there has been a man or beast that could get the best of me... 
11-26-11, 03:31 PM
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Bicycle Repair Man !!!