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    Lower Pannier Hooks

    I have an old set of Cannondale Panniers, but I only have one set of hooks that mount on the rack eyelet, so if I use the panniers on any other bike, there's no lower spring tension holding the upper hooks to the rack.

    I'm guessing I'm not the only one that has one set of panniers but a couple (or so) bikes to use them on-

    So what clever solutions are there for mounting some sort of hook-y thing on the rack eyelet?
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    I'd have to see it to be sure, but do any of your bikes have cut-outs in the dropouts that could be used as hook points? Since I haven't seen your specific set up it is hard to imagine, perhaps pictures would help? Good luck!

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    a hook in the center of a section of shock / elastic cord
    is a common pannier hold down method.

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    on my bikes i try to get a similar rack for each so that i can still use my panniers with any bike. the racks i have all have some hook built into the rear support piece where it welds to the main support of the rack frame. although on some of my cheaper racks, they are shorter and so my panniers ride closer to the crank, and i do get heel strike on one of my bike setups.

    i have seen a fellow mount an home made hook - it looked like a cut piece from a coat hanger wire, and he held it in place with a hose clamp, seemed to work for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badrad View Post

    i have seen a fellow mount an home made hook - it looked like a cut piece from a coat hanger wire, and he held it in place with a hose clamp, seemed to work for him.
    Yeah, it's not like the hooks are "scientifically designed" to maintain an balanced, optimal pressure calculated to be paired with the most advantageous spring tension for your rack load... it's a "J" shaped hook designed to catch a ring attached by a little bolt...
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    Zombie Thread Bump-

    I was just going through some of my old threads- entertaining myself with the (now) silly questions I've asked in the past...

    This never got answered in this thread, I found these a while ago so I thought I'd bump in case someone is searching this out.



    Banjo Brothers has these Dropout Pannier Hooks. $6 for 8 hooks.

    Drop-Out Hooks 4 pack | Banjo Brothers


    I have them on most of my bikes.

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    I have a pair of Cannondale Overland panniers that I use with my LHT. I got a pair of J hooks at Ace Hardware for a buck that did the trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Golden Boy View Post
    Zombie Thread Bump-

    I was just going through some of my old threads- entertaining myself with the (now) silly questions I've asked in the past...

    This never got answered in this thread, I found these a while ago so I thought I'd bump in case someone is searching this out.



    Banjo Brothers has these Dropout Pannier Hooks. $6 for 8 hooks.

    Drop-Out Hooks 4 pack | Banjo Brothers


    I have them on most of my bikes.

    Are those stainless steel? The Banjo Brothers link doesn't say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Golden Boy View Post
    Zombie Thread Bump-

    I was just going through some of my old threads- entertaining myself with the (now) silly questions I've asked in the past...

    This never got answered in this thread, I found these a while ago so I thought I'd bump in case someone is searching this out.



    Banjo Brothers has these Dropout Pannier Hooks. $6 for 8 hooks.

    Drop-Out Hooks 4 pack | Banjo Brothers


    I have them on most of my bikes.

    You didn't see the rack already has 2 built in ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by loky1179 View Post
    Are those stainless steel? The Banjo Brothers link doesn't say.
    If they're not stainless, they're plated- I've had them on several bikes for 2+ years and they're not rusting or turning ugly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vintage_Cyclist View Post
    I have a pair of Cannondale Overland panniers that I use with my LHT. I got a pair of J hooks at Ace Hardware for a buck that did the trick.
    Could you post pix of yours? When I was looking for these, I actually took a set of the hooks that I had into the local Ace- they didn't have anything other than some metal blanks that I would have had to cut, drill and bend.
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    Thanks for the link!

    Quote Originally Posted by The Golden Boy View Post
    If they're not stainless, they're plated- I've had them on several bikes for 2+ years and they're not rusting or turning ugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    You didn't see the rack already has 2 built in ..
    I've got the Cannondale Overlands with the spring going to the wire ring. Without bending the spring/wire, it doesn't settle onto the bent out legs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loky1179 View Post
    Thanks for the link!
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    think about elastic mounts and the bags bouncing off when the route is bumpy ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    think about elastic mounts and the bags bouncing off when the route is bumpy ..
    Hi Bob- I don't think I'm following you. The attachment system is like this:






    I've had sets where the spring broke- I've used elastic bungees- it works best to tie it to the strap grommets and hook the bungee onto the pannier hook. That way you have double the elastic pulling the hooks onto the rack. But the spring seems to have more tension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Golden Boy View Post
    Could you post pix of yours? When I was looking for these, I actually took a set of the hooks that I had into the local Ace- they didn't have anything other than some metal blanks that I would have had to cut, drill and bend.
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    These are about 1.5" long, .5" wide and .5" deep, with two mounting holes. These are on a Jandd Expedition rack. If I get aesthetically minded, I might cut the hook down between the mounting holes to make it look cleaner, but I've never been a form over function type, so I probably won't.

    A zillion years ago, I had hooks similar to the Banjo Bros hooks on a Blackburn rack. After having the bag bounce off the hook a few times, I just started using the spur on the Blackburn rack instead, which never gave me any problems.

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    Just about all racks I know of have a design simlar to the rack pictured. Some have three legs like pictured some have only two. One leg has the job of holding the rack to the eyelet. The other one (or two) are bent off at an angle. I slip my hook into the notch formed by the bent away leg so it holds against the weld that holds the legs together. Works for me. YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    You didn't see the rack already has 2 built in ..
    Thank you, I though I was missing something. Sittn' here wondering where the problem was. Now I clearly see.....nowhere.
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    the ring type is one sort .. Perhaps augment the elastic cord* with a non elastic cord or strap

    to tighten the bag solidly .. pulling down on the upper hooks ..

    I took a bunch of tours .. Beckman uses a belt and buckle tie down on Gordon's racks.
    they never budge , until the buckles are loosened ,

    solid also means the load is not moving on its own, on descents .. handling (at least my un Light Bike) is solid.

    *or those screen door springs in n.17 ..
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    .

    Coincidentally, SJS bikes just e-mailed me that the Nimrod rack hooks are back in stock (I had been looking for something like these a while back). Only available in black right now though.

    Buy Nimrod Nimrod Pannier Bag Rack Bottom Hooks - Black from SJS Cycles, fast delivery for the UK - 2.99

    Sorry about the advert in the link, can't get it to link without it. :/

    A quick google search doesn't turn up anybody outside of the UK selling these. I tried looking for something similar, but I suspect my google-fu is lacking a key term or combination of terms on this one.
    ISO: 22" GT Rebound frame, year 2000 model

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    Interesting combination, makes both a elastic cord quick mount

    and a strap and buckle secure tie down work together , in a convenient piece ..

    D ring and a separate hook would be a more DIY combo ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medic Zero View Post
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    Buy Nimrod Nimrod Pannier Bag Rack Bottom Hooks - Black from SJS Cycles, fast delivery for the UK - 2.99

    Thanks for this - it's just what I was looking for to adapt a stock Papillionaire rack to take pannier bags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intjonathan View Post
    Thanks for this - it's just what I was looking for to adapt a stock Papillionaire rack to take pannier bags.
    My pleasure!
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