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Old 12-16-11, 08:19 AM   #1
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Best Value for 700c wheelset

Whether prebuilt or custom built, what the best value in terms of cost to durability/quality for 700c wheels?

Just list each component of the wheel (rim/hub/spoke) and maybe provide a link to them...
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Kind of like asking what is the best value for a shoe? You'll probably get a meaningful answer to your question if you provide some additional information.
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I'll take a stab at it for commuting with a road bike.

Shimano Tiagra or 105 hubs for road bikes (130mm spacing)

32 DT Swiss Alpine III spokes

Velocity A23 rims. Not the cheapest, but these are strong, light and fit a wide range of tires.

This should allow a 250 lbs rider and a small amount of load.

If its a hybrid or a mountain bike, I'll need to know what kind of brakes.
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Old 12-16-11, 09:52 AM   #4
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Kind of like asking what is the best value for a shoe? You'll probably get a meaningful answer to your question if you provide some additional information.
+1 What kind of price range 0-$100, or $800-$1000? drive train? Mountain, hybrid, road? What size of tires do you expect to run?
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You'll probably get a meaningful answer to your question if you provide some additional information.
Understood, I will be more specific.

Rim brakes, able to handle 250# person plus 20-30# of stuff, sealed bearing hubs, rear spacing of 130mm, preferred tire size 28-32, desired cost around $200-250 (including skewers & rim tape if possible), 36H max (32 front ok)...I think that's it

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drive train? Mountain, hybrid, road?
8 speed cassette, may upgrade to 9 once the derailleur needs replacing. It's a road/touring bike.
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Ok so what have you found so far?, might be simpler to critique specifics,
rather than such generalizations.

Have you asked at your Local bike shop? Shipping is a cost.
its part of retail margin in shops,
its added on top of retail if the seller has to ship it again.

then there is service, after the sale, quite absent from like Amazon
and ebay... you are on your own..

Machine built wheels often require hand work , after arriving .
skill of mechanic, you..

'speeds' is just how many sprockets, what ratios do you need ?
you can add 'speeds' and make ratios redundant, and gain little.

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Mail order wheelsets can range widely in build quality. If I could buy a wheelset directly from the Wheelsmith/LBS with a 60 day tune-up (if needed) included, that would be my 1st option.
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Fulcrum Racing 7. I'm not sure whether you can get them for 28s or wider, though.
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This has some good info. http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...om-Wheel-Build
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Here's another from page 1 on the Clydes subforum. http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-weight-limits

You may want to do a little browsing.
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Handspun Wheels, which was (still is?) a QBP operation. Pick 105 hubs, 36h both front and rear (could probably get away with 32h front) laced to either Velocity Dyads or DTSwiss DK540 rims. Both are touring rated rims, which is appropriate for the indicated load. AEBike has good prices for Handspuns, although you will have to special order that combo. Handspun does a stock build with those rims, but to XT and LX hubs (135mm rear), which makes for a much stronger rear wheel. If you already have the frame, then you have to work with 130mm.

You really can't build 'em yourself for what Handspun charges.
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Touring rim the velocity dyad is probably the best wheel value you can get
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REI usualy has CR18's on Deore hubs. I have that set up on a couple bikes now and no problems.
REI's satisfaction guarantee makes it a no brainer.
MAKE SURE you get the wheel trued and re tensioned after about 150 miles.
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Whether prebuilt or custom built, what the best value in terms of cost to durability/quality for 700c wheels?

Just list each component of the wheel (rim/hub/spoke) and maybe provide a link to them...
This would be my choice money not withstanding:

Phil Wood hubs, DT Alpine 3 spokes and Mavic A719 rims. If for touring it would be 36h 5x for the rear and 32h 3x for the front. 28mm Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires and Zefal rim tape. At your present weight you may want to go to 32mm tires. Bulletproof.

Now in the real world it would be Shimano hubs, DT Alpine 3 spokes and Sun CR-18 rims. Same tires and rim tape, but for touring I'd get a 48h rim/hub and lace it 4x. Mavic doesn't make a 48h rim anymore. 32h 3x for the front unless carrying front bags then I'd jump to 36h.

For commuting 36/32h w/4x on the rear would be plenty. Would still go w/t same spokes/rims and hubs as listed above in the real world. Same tires and rim tape as well.
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36 and 48 hole 4 and 5 cross wheels? Where are you touring, nashcomm? Decomissioned artillery ranges and mine testing fields?

Even with a 250 pound rider and 30 pounds of stuff (OP's stats) a well built 32h 3-cross will hold up just fine.
CR-18, Alex Adventurer, or Velocity Dyad rims
Deore hubs
I'm a fan of DT Champion 2.0 spokes, but that's just me. They're cheap and strong.
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36 and 48 hole 4 and 5 cross wheels? Where are you touring, nashcomm? Decomissioned artillery ranges and mine testing fields?

Even with a 250 pound rider and 30 pounds of stuff (OP's stats) a well built 32h 3-cross will hold up just fine.
CR-18, Alex Adventurer, or Velocity Dyad rims
Deore hubs
I'm a fan of DT Champion 2.0 spokes, but that's just me. They're cheap and strong.
Is there a reason I'm supposed to care what you think? For commuting 36/32h w 4x on the rear would be plenty.

At 280+ lbs OP is pushing the limits of 32h 3x rear wheel over a period of time. The cumlative stress could cause a problem. Eliminatiing those potentials is at the heart of my recommendations.
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