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    Cyclists Ticketing Cyclists

    "The Ugly: Bowery and Delancey, where the cops are handing out these tickets, is one of the area’s most dangerous intersections. Over five years, 82 people were injured in traffic crashes at the intersection, and one year ago last week, a tractor-trailer driver killed a pedestrian at the corner. Here, even more than usual, the police need to be focused on improving safety, not hitting quotas or making a statement."

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    I ride through that intersection very often when I come off the Manhattan Bridge and I can't stand it. Very often I'll just make a left on Broome and go up Lafayette Street. It is becoming a little bit too much the way the cops are going after bikes and not actually going after much more dangerous activity. Last Friday I had a cop pointing a radar at me in Prospect Park, But when cars are in the park they usually drive way over the limit and I've never seen one pulled over. I also saw a guy get stopped today at Ave H and East 16th in Brooklyn for riding on the sidewalk despite the fact that there are signs that say "bikes use sidewalk".
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    NYPD still doesn't have their priorities in order,
    even with all of the criticsm.

    SNOOZE ALARM: Off-duty Officer Matthew Sobota probably earned his nap on the subway — but not with his *** in plain view. He was disciplined by the NYPD

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    I ride Delancey to/from Willy B every day but I take Essex. Most cyclists act like complete idiots around the bridge. I have seen cyclists ticketed and they completely deserved that.

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    The article says they are writing tickets for running red lights......What's wrong with that again......

    They might be doing other stupid stuff,but I don't see a problem here.
    Everything should be as simple as possible...But not more so.---Albert Einstein

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    Bummer. Well, on the bright side, at least they're doing something about the cycling problem. It's good (according to certain of the bike forums, at least) that our tax dollars are going to discourage cycling. At least that keeps the police from harassing drivers.
    Don't believe everything you think.

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    Is it wrong that when I saw the pic.. I thought to myself no way that cop can catch up to me on that hybrid?
    “Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by RaleighSport View Post
    Is it wrong that when I saw the pic.. I thought to myself no way that cop can catch up to me on that hybrid?
    I had the same thought, but coupled the bike's weaknesses with the cop's extra 30 pounds of belly. Unless he's got friends waiting two streets up with a net, I think he'd lose the hunt. Catch me if you can.

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    I think it's kind of funny that cops are aiming radar at cyclists. I coasted down the hill in Prospect Park last weekend just to see how fast I'm going and it barely hit 22. You have to crank to exceed the 25mph speed limit. And on the flats?? Fughedabouddit. You have to go all out, as any cyclist could tell you. Yes, if you are in great shape and/or racing you can hit it easily, but not 99.9% of the riders in the park. What a waste of resources. Maybe they should go investigate the Halal chicken butchers in Newark instead. Oh yeah, they did that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zacster View Post
    I think it's kind of funny that cops are aiming radar at cyclists. I coasted down the hill in Prospect Park last weekend just to see how fast I'm going and it barely hit 22. You have to crank to exceed the 25mph speed limit. And on the flats?? Fughedabouddit. You have to go all out, as any cyclist could tell you. Yes, if you are in great shape and/or racing you can hit it easily, but not 99.9% of the riders in the park. What a waste of resources. Maybe they should go investigate the Halal chicken butchers in Newark instead. Oh yeah, they did that too.
    I got up to 32 on my road bike the other day and as soon as I come around the curve I see a cop waiting at the light so I had to hit the brakes quick. If I coasted I would've never been able to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaleighSport View Post
    Is it wrong that when I saw the pic.. I thought to myself no way that cop can catch up to me on that hybrid?
    As you can see, he's not pulling anybody over on a road bike, but don't judge a book by it's cover, there's one Clyde on my commute that has some serious leg muscle, sometimes I drop him, and sometimes he drops me.

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    Theres a guy I often see riding whos got a nice gut but he passes everybody else on the road and he rides a hybrid not a road bike.
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    When Greg Lemond was making his comeback after his hunting accident, he said he that a 250lb guy dropped him on a climb. He used that statement to illustrate how out of shape he was, but when I read it I was thinking that the 250 pounder had to be in pretty decent shape to drop a former Tour de France winner, even one that was on the mend.

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    I commute through this area regularly. By car and bicycle. There are so many alternates to cycling on Delancey with all its heavy truck traffic, clueless pedestrians, double parked vehicles, broken road surface, opening car doors and crazy cyclists why would any sane individual want to ride on Delancey. Yet they do and way too many ignore all traffic laws. Though I have never counted, I would estimate at least 20 times more cyclists are breaking traffic laws than motor vehicles in the city. Thing is most motor vehicles do obey traffic laws. Most cyclists in Manhattan do not - and they scare me more than anything else on the road because they are totally unpredictable. I stop for red lights, even on the west side bike path. What is it about the mindset of so many cyclists that tells them the laws don't pertain. It may be that cyclists are already largely non-conformists and actually enjoy flaunting the law.

    NYC cops may have the toughest job in the world. They get all the press when things go bad. No credit when the city becomes so much safer.

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    I have to agree there really isn't a reason to use Delancy, I'll usually take a parallel side street or Grand. I also really don't see what is so hard about stopping for red lights, I do it on the street but I will say I usually don't stop on the Greenway.
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