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Old 07-11-12, 11:32 PM   #1
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Ever meet someone who just hates cyclists?

Tell me your story.


There is this lady, we'll just call her Lisa. She complains that there are some cyclists that ride 15mph on a 40mph street and ride in front of her so now she has to go out of her way to pass them. I asked how long that street was, Lisa refused to answer (I bet is just ¼ - ½ miles long).
Lisa has now found out that it isn't against the law NOT to wear a helmet and now Lisa is set on that it should be a law. Oh course I had to say, then cyclists should also wear eye protection and other pieces of armor. Lisa then goes for the knee jerk reasoning of, " Helmets protect your brain". Lisa doesn't even ride a bicycle, so why should she care?

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Old 07-11-12, 11:43 PM   #2
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Yeah, I hate cyclists. They clog up my MUPs and take my favorite possie at the rack in front of the store... well, I don't hate all cyclists, I don't hate myself obviously.
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Old 07-12-12, 05:45 AM   #3
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I think most of us have met at least one person like that. I've stopped trying to talk with them because most of the conversations I have seem to turn into the one in the link below and nothing good seems to come of it.

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I hate cyclists because they're all faster than my car. Which is why I'm a cyclist. But they're faster than me on my bike too, so I hate cyclists doubly. But, going back to the op, I have never formally met myself. So, no, I have never met anyone who hates cyclists. I should get to know myself sometime, I hear I'm a nice guy. Oops, here comes my Daddy - he hates when I play with his computer . . .
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I have a co-worker that frequently says:

"When I'm in a car, I hate pedestrians.
When I'm walking, I hate car drivers.
But, I always hate cyclists."

Of course, he hates anyone who isn't like him. Who cares? I prefer:

"What others think of you is none of your business."
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Lisa then goes for the knee jerk reasoning of, " Helmets protect your brain".
Poor Lisa.

She should have worn a helmet.
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The only cyclists I hate are the ones who give the rest of us a bad name by blatantly disreguarding the rules of the road, being inconsiderate or downright rude to drivers and pedestrians, and generally being arrogant asses who believe the whole world is their personal training ground. Ever see Joe Kit-n-carbonfiber doing 30mph in the drops, weaving between the pedestrians on a MUP on a Saturday afternoon? Or Jane Wannabe a New York Bike Messenger blowing through a red light then flipping off the woman who had to slam on the brakes to avoid a collision? Those are the cyclists I'm talking about and both are real examples of behavior I have seen.

I digress as the OP asked about the other side of the coin. Earlier this summer I was passing through a small rural town and stopped at the one traffic light. When the light turned green I proceded through the intersection which resulted in two guys in a pickup having to wait about 10 seconds to make a right on red (legal in this state). As they passed me several seconds later, the Bubba in the passenger seat threw something striking me in the lower back as the driver floored it for a near miss. I got flipped off by Bubba as they sped away.
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Life is too short to be spent on such a negative emotion. Anyhow, I ignore them or refuse to discuss cycling.
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Trying to educate someone like that usually results in them plugging their ears and screaming "LALALALALA I can't hear you", so just ignore her. Lisa can go on living her high speed life style that will probably bring on an early death. Every time I encounter someone like that, I feel compelled to ask them "does 1 or 2 minutes mean that much to you?" and/or "if your time is so important, why are you wasting it talking to me?" etc.
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Definitely.
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My son-in-law is one of those guys...way too important to slow down for a guy on a bike and doesn't want to wait to go around safely. Me, I'm a life-long cyclist who commutes to work on a bike most days. I think he's acting like a jackass, and he doesn't think to much of me, so I guess it all works. Most people who 'hate' cyclists are WAY to self involved...(the world revolves around me and me alone) and rarely think about what it's like in the other guys shoes, or just plain ignorant and not willing to listen to reason.

Life in the big city is guess?

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I hate cagers so we're even.
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There is always someone who hates something about you. So what. Some people are unhappy, others are just angry. I hate, as a group, dog owners, but I wouldn't expect dog owners to worry much about my opinion. There is always something about you that will annoy someone, and there are things about others that will annoy you. Life goes on.

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Sure, I know a couple of people like that. In my experience, though, they don't "just" hate cyclists. They hate darn near everything. Seriously, if someone has enough time on their hands/space in their head to be concerned about cyclists when it doesn't really involve them, they tend to be the kind of people that: a) don't have a life of their own or b) are chronic complainers who will b**** about everything.

As I have enough problems of my own to deal with, I don't have time for these people, so I ignore them and ride on.
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Sure, I know a couple of people like that. In my experience, though, they don't "just" hate cyclists. They hate darn near everything. Seriously, if someone has enough time on their hands/space in their head to be concerned about cyclists when it doesn't really involve them, they tend to be the kind of people that: a) don't have a life of their own or b) are chronic complainers who will b**** about everything.

As I have enough problems of my own to deal with, I don't have time for these people, so I ignore them and ride on.
You nailed it. That's been my experience. These type of people just hate everything.

It is a waste of effort to even try to change their mind, it just won't take.
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I haven't met a person who hated cyclists, but I've met one motorist who did not fully understand cyclists' rights, and made her ignorance of those rights known by going off into a loud tirade, and then ransacking my panniers in her quest to identify me.
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I don't think it's so awful or unimaginable that autos would find us annoying...we are an inconvenience and a very small minority that has different needs and requirements. I don't think finding slower moving traffic irritating automatically qualifies someone as a miserable psycopath. It doesn't give them the right to act on it, but it's perfectly reasonable for autos to be annoyed by us. And, let's face it, a lot of cyclists do act like turds.
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I haven't met a person who hated cyclists, but I've met one motorist who did not fully understand cyclists' rights, and made her ignorance of those rights known by going off into a loud tirade, and then ransacking my panniers in her quest to identify me.
Wha? THAT sounds like some sort of mental disorder.
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I don't think it's so awful or unimaginable that autos would find us annoying...we are an inconvenience and a very small minority that has different needs and requirements. I don't think finding slower moving traffic irritating automatically qualifies someone as a miserable psycopath. It doesn't give them the right to act on it, but it's perfectly reasonable for autos to be annoyed by us. And, let's face it, a lot of cyclists do act like turds.
One argument I've heard (and it makes a lot of sense to me) is that cyclists are much more fragile than a car in a collision and that creates additional anxiety when sharing the road. Add in the fact that some cyclists are unpredictable and that a collision could kill a cyclist and you have motorists that despise driving alongside cyclists and would prefer them to stay on sidewalks and trails. You're not going to be able to talk that away by talking about cyclists' rights or by telling them the history of modern roadways.
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Exactly...I think expecting everyone to love or accept us is probably unreasonable. I fully accept that I am an actual inconvenience to cars. That guy behind the wheel is an inconvenience to me and I'm sure he does other things that annoy me. It's a society, we have to tolerate some annoyance from others.
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I think Lisa is mostly right. You should wear a helmet and eye protection. Body armour is probably not necessary. Bikes that "take the lane" for no reason are really annoying.
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Exactly...I think expecting everyone to love or accept us is probably unreasonable. I fully accept that I am an actual inconvenience to cars. That guy behind the wheel is an inconvenience to me and I'm sure he does other things that annoy me. It's a society, we have to tolerate some annoyance from others.
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I had a coworker tell me once that he would intentionally run over and kill cyclists if he thought he would have a 100% chance to get away with it, because he wanted to "teach them all a lesson", and expressed sadness about how "liberal" this country had become because "if I hit a cyclist I'd be the one who goes to jail".


I didn't bother correcting his perception that cyclists are more often protected by law than drivers. I felt it better in terms of my safety.
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Tell me your story.


There is this lady, we'll just call her Lisa. She complains that there are some cyclists that ride 15mph on a 40mph street and ride in front of her so now she has to go out of her way to pass them. I asked how long that street was, Lisa refused to answer (I bet is just ¼ - ½ miles long).
Lisa has now found out that it isn't against the law NOT to wear a helmet and now Lisa is set on that it should be a law. Oh course I had to say, then cyclists should also wear eye protection and other pieces of armor. Lisa then goes for the knee jerk reasoning of, " Helmets protect your brain". Lisa doesn't even ride a bicycle, so why should she care?
All due respect to you but I have ask, why do you even talk to Lisa?
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"I hope your kids never ride a bike with people like you on the road" sometimes works, but for the most part people who would like to run down cyclists are beyond reason and I don't waste my time with so much negativity.
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