Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 27
  1. #1
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    32
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Dont be dumb like me

    I put cyclocross tires on my rode bike so I could commute this winter. When I got the tires I knew they were a little too big but assumed that the rubber would wear itself down with time. Well the tire did not wear at all, actually there is no sign of wear on it. All the wear is on my frame. I usually clean my bike two times a week but dont actually take off the wheels. This weekend I did so I could repack my hubs. Thats how I found this. Well needless to say I ordered a new frame this morning. Take a look at the pictures and tell me what you think.

  2. #2
    Campy or bust :p cryogenic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Knoxville, TN
    My Bikes
    Surly Karate Monkey commuter build
    Posts
    3,139
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Beautiful! At least you learned your lesson

  3. #3
    I drink your MILKSHAKE Raiyn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    St. Petersburg, FL
    My Bikes
    2003 Specialized Rockhopper FSR Comp, 1999 Specialized Hardrock Comp FS, 1971 Schwinn Varsity
    Posts
    15,071
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Hmmm Rubber tire + sand+ potential salt = a pretty effective cutting mechanism. Add in a too close frame tolerance and I can understand the result Pity about the frame

  4. #4
    Campy or bust :p cryogenic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Knoxville, TN
    My Bikes
    Surly Karate Monkey commuter build
    Posts
    3,139
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I would have guessed the tires to wear at least a LITTLE bit, but I guess not... sucks that you had to learn the hard way.

  5. #5
    Wind Breaker Bruco's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    In the Dutch mountains
    Posts
    802
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by thecoloredguy
    Take a look at the pictures and tell me what you think.
    I am really sorry for you that you had to learn this the hard way... Good luck building up your new frame and selecting your tyres .
    Waakzame Vingers
    Per angusta ad augusta
    http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/waakzamevingers

  6. #6
    I drink your MILKSHAKE Raiyn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    St. Petersburg, FL
    My Bikes
    2003 Specialized Rockhopper FSR Comp, 1999 Specialized Hardrock Comp FS, 1971 Schwinn Varsity
    Posts
    15,071
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by cryogenic
    I would have guessed the tires to wear at least a LITTLE bit, but I guess not... sucks that you had to learn the hard way.
    If you look at his frame it's coated in what appears to be dried sand muck. Having this stuck to the rubber as it rubbed on the frame exacerbated the situation. It actually served to protect the rubber as it embedded itself to a degree in the rubber as it rubbed against the frame. Sort of a belt sander effect I'd imagine. If you look you can see the rows of knobs

  7. #7
    Long Live Long Rides
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    KCMO
    My Bikes
    1988 Specialized Rockhopper Comp, converted for touring/commuting. 1984 Raleigh Team USA road bike.
    Posts
    717
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Bummer, dude.
    Jharte
    Touring...therapy for the soul.

  8. #8
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    32
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    All that sand and stuff on the frame is from one commute home. I tryed to keep the frame as clean as possible. But the good thing about this is I get a new frame.

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Location
    England
    Posts
    12,203
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    What material is the frame?
    A std road frame is not the best choice for a winter commuter. Get a model with room for the tyres; it should use long-drop caliper or MTB style brakes. Whilst you are at it, may as well specify fender eyelets.

  10. #10
    hello roadfix's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Los Angeles
    My Bikes
    thank you for asking
    Posts
    18,502
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Although you may not have felt any drag while riding, something like this would have been spotted immediately if you would have put your bike on a repair stand and spun your wheel during routine maintenance.
    .cinelli.olympic.surly.long.haul.trucker.kona.ku.surly.steamroller.
    .litespeed.classic.litespeed.firenze.bianchi.pista.dean.colonel.plus.more.

  11. #11
    Banned.
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Posts
    4,418
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I'd bet that you could still ride that frame. It would break soon, but you could still ride it....

  12. #12
    I couldn't car less. jeff williams's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    My Bikes
    Ritchey P-series prototype, Diamondback, Nishiki Triathelon Pro.
    Posts
    4,404
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    With all the added resistance you had grinding that frame, your new bike will probably feel like it's flying.
    Probably made your legs stronger!
    Last edited by jeff williams; 01-16-05 at 02:13 PM.

  13. #13
    ya'll can't mush me vomitron's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    san diego, ca
    Posts
    839
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    why are you getting a new frame? looks ridable to me.

    don't be a weenie!

  14. #14
    Better than you since 83! junioroverlord's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Up a big F'ing Hill
    My Bikes
    Fixed Gear 79 Schwinn Sprint
    Posts
    1,117
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Yeah, if you are going to replace it, you can send it to me, I'll put it to good use.
    "Riding bikes on the street is the fuggin jam!" Juvi-Kyle

  15. #15
    Ride On!! PanPanX's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Temple City, CA
    My Bikes
    2004 OCR3, 1989 Nishiki Sport, 2003 Kona Blast, 2007 Fuji Track
    Posts
    467
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    no hes giving it to me

  16. #16
    Enjoy
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Seattle metro
    My Bikes
    Trek 5200
    Posts
    6,167
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    That's was Trek 2200? or 2300? Man those cyclecross tires are pretty tough!

  17. #17
    Senior Member GeezerGeek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Minnesota
    My Bikes
    1993 Infinity LWB, Bacchetta
    Posts
    219
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Wasn't it hard to peddle?

  18. #18
    I drink your MILKSHAKE Raiyn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    St. Petersburg, FL
    My Bikes
    2003 Specialized Rockhopper FSR Comp, 1999 Specialized Hardrock Comp FS, 1971 Schwinn Varsity
    Posts
    15,071
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by thecoloredguy
    All that sand and stuff on the frame is from one commute home. I tryed to keep the frame as clean as possible. But the good thing about this is I get a new frame.
    I doesn't matter how clean you keep the frame sparky. It's pretty obvious what the conditions you rode in were. The tires picked up dirt which acted as an abrasive resulting in the damage shown. Keeping the fram clean does bubkus when the tires are dirty while in motion. This would have happened eventually anyway even if you rode in a sterile environment the grit expidited the matter. I seriously hope that you aren't trying to get a new frame under warranty.

  19. #19
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    32
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Raiyn
    I doesn't matter how clean you keep the frame sparky. It's pretty obvious what the conditions you rode in were. The tires picked up dirt which acted as an abrasive resulting in the damage shown. Keeping the fram clean does bubkus when the tires are dirty while in motion. This would have happened eventually anyway even if you rode in a sterile environment the grit expidited the matter. I seriously hope that you aren't trying to get a new frame under warranty.
    You dont have to yell at me. So I wasnt thinking or Im stupid or whatever. This was totally my fault and I take 100% blame for it. And No I will not be trying to get a new frame under warranty. I bought a Surly Long Haul Trucker.

  20. #20
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    32
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by vrkelley
    That's was Trek 2200? or 2300?
    Trek 2200 either '99 or '00

  21. #21
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    San Francisco, CA
    Posts
    1,169
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    At least you know a durable cyclocross tire if you ever need one.

  22. #22
    Enjoy
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Seattle metro
    My Bikes
    Trek 5200
    Posts
    6,167
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by thecoloredguy
    Trek 2200 either '99 or '00
    Yeah my 2200 had a tight fit even with a 25cm tire. When the new frame comes, check out the 23 Armadillo or even a 20 in another brand. And keep in mind that the size on the package may be smaller than actual.

    As several people stated, wear and tear happens no matter what. But the tire will probably need about a 1cm clearance maybe more to prevent that sort of frame damage. My own experience... Can anyone actually site the actual clearance tire should have?

  23. #23
    I drink your MILKSHAKE Raiyn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    St. Petersburg, FL
    My Bikes
    2003 Specialized Rockhopper FSR Comp, 1999 Specialized Hardrock Comp FS, 1971 Schwinn Varsity
    Posts
    15,071
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by thecoloredguy
    You dont have to yell at me. So I wasnt thinking or Im stupid or whatever. This was totally my fault and I take 100% blame for it. And No I will not be trying to get a new frame under warranty. I bought a Surly Long Haul Trucker.
    If I was yelling at you believe me you'd know it.

  24. #24
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    32
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Raiyn
    If I was yelling at you believe me you'd know it.
    Ok that makes me feel better and my new frame will be here next week. Cant wait to start building it up

  25. #25
    Get the stick. darkmother's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Toronto, ON
    My Bikes
    12 Y.O. Litespeed MTB, IRO Jamie Roy fixie, Custom Habanero Ti 'Cross, No name SS MTB, Old school lugged steel track bike (soon)
    Posts
    1,544
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    That hurts man. On the other hand, any excuse to get a new frame is a good excuse right? I hate that about modern road bikes, they keep pushing the tire clearance down to the point where the bike starts to become impractical. I couldn't even fit 28c's on the last road frame I had, so I'd end up with tons of pinch flats. I was actually relieved when I broke that frame.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •