robble

I've been reading all the tire threads I can find and it seems the SMS are very popular. I am thinking of getting a pair of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Schwalbe-Marat...ductPromotions

or these:

https://www.amazon.com/Schwalbe-Marat...hon+supreme+hd

There is about a $20 price difference between the two. Any plain english explanations why the more expensive ones are better?

If my bike comes standard with x32 tires will i be ok fitting x35 tires to them?

Thanks!

Andy_K 

You'd almost certainly be OK with 700x35 if your bike came with 700x32. Of course, that "almost" is worth noting. You can measure the clearance around your current tires to be sure. Schwalbe lists the "ETRTO" size of those tires as 37-622, so I would assume that they'll end up being at least 5 millimeters wider than what you have now. That's only 2.5 millimeter on each side (and above). If you can get a finger between your tire and the closest point on the frame then I'd say you're safe getting the bigger tires.

andrew.ferrell

THose Schwalbes are the best tire ever. I've used those and even the Marathon Plus. I've had my Schwalbe Marathons on my commuter for almost a year and NO FLATS. One day on the way home I noticed my ride was a bit bumpy, like something was causing my tire to bounce every revolution. I pulled a fat nail out of the tire about a 1/4in. long. No hisses or flats or pops. You'll make back the money by saving on tubes for sure. Just imagine if you got those tires with slime tubes AND THEN slime tire lining. That would be an insane amount of insulation (and almost unnecessary)!

canyoneagle

Unless I'm not seeing it on the Schwalbe site, the HS382 is the current tire, with no other Supreme models. https://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_ti...rathon_supreme
The tire is available in two versions: Foldable kevlar bead, and standard wire bead. The Kevlar bead will be lighter, and the tire will be more expensive.

You should be fine with 35's.

I can highly recommend the Supremes, after riding thousands of flat-free miles on them. They are my tire of choice for commuting, as they offer a really nice, sporty ride for a puncture resistant tire.

FrenchFit 

There is always one, and this time it's me. The 700s didn't work for me, they were flat magnets for thorns/goatheads. A Schwalbe employee lectured me that the materials used in the casing may be a bad match with the debris I have on my local roads, which is organic stuff. I think I had five flats in five weeks. Sold the tires on eBay, no flats since since switching that wheelset to Conti. I had the 32s. However, I still run a 26"er with SMS and have had only two flats, so wider seems to be a better on my roads.


So, there you go.

robble

Sounds like the cheaper ones may just be old stock of a discontinued model then. Since most of my biking is going to be commuting back and forth to work I definitely want something flat resistant. The roads around here aren't in the best shape either.

Frenchfit: what types of things specifically were causing your flats? It seems strange that thorns could be tougher than nails other than thorns being attached to limbs and not "falling over" when hit. In Hawaii there are some nasty thorn trees that cause a lot of car/truck tire flats but those trees normally grow along the beach where I won't be riding.

Weight is of some consideration to me since I am into racing cars and know that a 1lb weight reduction in your tires/rims is about equal to about a 10lb weight reduction on the car itself.

robble

I ordered the cheaper ones and it turns out they are exactly the same as the more expensive ones. Reading in the small print under the description it lists them with the same name. I received them the other day and can confirm they are the same Schwalbe part number as the more expensive ones.

Schwalbe Marathon Supreme HS 382 Touring Road Bike Tire (700x35, Triple Nano Folding, Reflex)

I installed them a little while ago. First noticeable difference is that they are more comfortable. I haven't had a chance to ride them enough for much more of an impression. My fenders had to be adjusted a little to keep them from rubbing.

Andy_K 

Dang! I forgot about this thread. I just order some 700x35 Marathon Supremes and paid $8 more than that per tire.

Burton

Simple explanation for the price difference - two different sellers operating through Amazon. The one with the lower price has only one size in stock and is probably clearing house.

muu

I haven't the best of luck with these guys... They seem to go flat about as much as a standard roadbike tire (~every 100-200mi or so). They do seem to put up well against simple glass shards though, so long as you're not fighting worse things you may be OK.

rumrunn6

I would prefer the symetrical tread of the HS 382

fwh32720

How would these ride on gravel and packed dirt with a cyclocross bike?

Andy_K 

I'd say not so great on gravel. They have an essentially smooth tread pattern. The Marathon Duremes are a similar but better choice for gravel and packet dirt.

Burton

On gravel and packed dirt tire width plays a more important role than tread and I drive them off-road almost every day. Muddy conditions are another story, and they slide on wet rocks too. But sand, crushed limestone or gravel wet or dry aren't a problem. I have bikes with 700 x 50 and 700 x 40 SMS's and have had ot issues with flats for almost three years now.

If I have a complaint about these tires its just that the reflective sidewalls need cleaning often - probably my fault for insisting on driving in the rain.