Need some new rubbers for the T-Rek and I don't mean Trojans
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Need some new rubbers for the T-Rek and I don't mean Trojans
Did you chuckle? If not, I failed you all! haha!
Anyways, I am in need of some tires but I will be frank, I am trying to get the BEST bang for the buck here. The bike is STRICTLY for commuting and exercise purpose and will not be raced and cornered at super high speeds. I did some research and found these two tires for a reasonable price...
Vittoria Rubino III Wire (700 x 23) for $18
or
Vittoria Zaffiro II Wire (700 x 23) for $14
or
Kenda Kadenmme Road Tire- Wire Bead (700x23mm) for $19
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Michelin Lithion 2 Road Tire for $23
or
Schwalbe 700X23 Durano S Stripe Folding Bead Tire for $25
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Another question I have is that my bike calls for a 700 x 23c
1st question - what does that c mean?
2nd - I am 6' 2" 215 lbs...should I up the size of the tire to a 700 x 25?
thanks for all your help in advance!
Anyways, I am in need of some tires but I will be frank, I am trying to get the BEST bang for the buck here. The bike is STRICTLY for commuting and exercise purpose and will not be raced and cornered at super high speeds. I did some research and found these two tires for a reasonable price...
Vittoria Rubino III Wire (700 x 23) for $18
or
Vittoria Zaffiro II Wire (700 x 23) for $14
or
Kenda Kadenmme Road Tire- Wire Bead (700x23mm) for $19
or
Michelin Lithion 2 Road Tire for $23
or
Schwalbe 700X23 Durano S Stripe Folding Bead Tire for $25
or
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Another question I have is that my bike calls for a 700 x 23c
1st question - what does that c mean?
2nd - I am 6' 2" 215 lbs...should I up the size of the tire to a 700 x 25?
thanks for all your help in advance!
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Walk into the shop, see what they have, and hold them in your hand, talk to the staff..
$20, usually gets no Puncture resistant band in the casing, paying more may.
got a Trek? try Bontrager hardcase, at the same dealer..
$20, usually gets no Puncture resistant band in the casing, paying more may.
got a Trek? try Bontrager hardcase, at the same dealer..
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I don't believe in buying cheap tires. Tires are too important both in terms of safety and pleasure. (This is not just a play on your title joke.) There are reasons other than racing that tires can be expensive.
Since you bought a bike that takes 700x23 tires, you probably want the ride to feel at least a little sporty. That rules out tires that use really heavy rubber for puncture protection. Since you're commuting, you should care about puncture protection. Something with a Kevlar/Aramid belt (not bead, which is something different) is a good start, but Vectran or Panaracer's 'PT' are a bit better. Tires with higher thread count (TPI or EPI) have better grip and roll better but they also wear out faster. All of this is a matter of priorities.
If you're open to spending a lot more money, the Continental Grand Prix 4 Season is a great tire. The Conti Gatorskins are cheaper and still good but give up a little of the 4 Seasons' grip. For a budget tire with decent performance, check out Panaracer T-Servs.
BTW, the 'c' is a historical artifact that distinguishes 700c from 700a and 700b as a wheel size, only 700c survives outside of vintage collections so you can ignore it.
Since you bought a bike that takes 700x23 tires, you probably want the ride to feel at least a little sporty. That rules out tires that use really heavy rubber for puncture protection. Since you're commuting, you should care about puncture protection. Something with a Kevlar/Aramid belt (not bead, which is something different) is a good start, but Vectran or Panaracer's 'PT' are a bit better. Tires with higher thread count (TPI or EPI) have better grip and roll better but they also wear out faster. All of this is a matter of priorities.
If you're open to spending a lot more money, the Continental Grand Prix 4 Season is a great tire. The Conti Gatorskins are cheaper and still good but give up a little of the 4 Seasons' grip. For a budget tire with decent performance, check out Panaracer T-Servs.
BTW, the 'c' is a historical artifact that distinguishes 700c from 700a and 700b as a wheel size, only 700c survives outside of vintage collections so you can ignore it.
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I'd pick Rubinos from that list. I'm pretty cheap.
Most bikes can take 25s, so I'd get them instead if it looks like your bike has clearance.
Most bikes can take 25s, so I'd get them instead if it looks like your bike has clearance.
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I should also mention that your bike can almost certainly also use 700x25 tires and possibly 700x28 or 700x32. For your purposes I think you'll find that wider tires are better.
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I agree that you shouldn't pinch pennies when it comes to tires. Spending more for good tires greatly increases your riding peasure. If you flat out all the time, then you will not be a happy camper.
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The best all around clinchers I've had in years are Michelin Pro4 Endurance in 25mm. I think they're basically the same as the old Krylion tires, but renamed.
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but wider tires and forgoing mudguards? not on the north wet coast.
maybe OK in a city built on a desert, coveting water from other places that have it..
maybe OK in a city built on a desert, coveting water from other places that have it..
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Thanks to your thread title, I now have an image of an inner-tube made of strung-together inflated Trojans in my mind. Thank you for that.
Unless you are into racing, the 25mm will be just fine for you, and they'll be more comfortable and require lower pressure than the 23. Also, tire choice is heavily affected by the sort of riding you plan to do. Urban riding, with all it's curbs and potholes and railroad track crossings, touring with a heavily loaded bike, cyclocross on/off road riding, or riding on different surfaces, all affect the choice of tire one wants. What are your riding plans? Only commuting, or also touring, weekend-MUP-master, utility-grocery-load-bearing, or training to be "Speed Racer" on a two-wheeled Mach...3? Will you be on pavement only? If so, what condition is the pavement? If not, what other surfaces will you be facing in front of your handlebars?
Unless you are into racing, the 25mm will be just fine for you, and they'll be more comfortable and require lower pressure than the 23. Also, tire choice is heavily affected by the sort of riding you plan to do. Urban riding, with all it's curbs and potholes and railroad track crossings, touring with a heavily loaded bike, cyclocross on/off road riding, or riding on different surfaces, all affect the choice of tire one wants. What are your riding plans? Only commuting, or also touring, weekend-MUP-master, utility-grocery-load-bearing, or training to be "Speed Racer" on a two-wheeled Mach...3? Will you be on pavement only? If so, what condition is the pavement? If not, what other surfaces will you be facing in front of your handlebars?
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I've had Rubino's before. HATED them. I had a lot of flats. Switched to Conti's and never looked back.
I agree that you shouldn't pinch pennies when it comes to tires. Spending more for good tires greatly increases your riding peasure. If you flat out all the time, then you will not be a happy camper.
I agree that you shouldn't pinch pennies when it comes to tires. Spending more for good tires greatly increases your riding peasure. If you flat out all the time, then you will not be a happy camper.
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I've had Rubino's before. HATED them. I had a lot of flats. Switched to Conti's and never looked back.
I agree that you shouldn't pinch pennies when it comes to tires. Spending more for good tires greatly increases your riding peasure. If you flat out all the time, then you will not be a happy camper.
I agree that you shouldn't pinch pennies when it comes to tires. Spending more for good tires greatly increases your riding peasure. If you flat out all the time, then you will not be a happy camper.
Thanks to your thread title, I now have an image of an inner-tube made of strung-together inflated Trojans in my mind. Thank you for that.
Unless you are into racing, the 25mm will be just fine for you, and they'll be more comfortable and require lower pressure than the 23. Also, tire choice is heavily affected by the sort of riding you plan to do. Urban riding, with all it's curbs and potholes and railroad track crossings, touring with a heavily loaded bike, cyclocross on/off road riding, or riding on different surfaces, all affect the choice of tire one wants. What are your riding plans? Only commuting, or also touring, weekend-MUP-master, utility-grocery-load-bearing, or training to be "Speed Racer" on a two-wheeled Mach...3? Will you be on pavement only? If so, what condition is the pavement? If not, what other surfaces will you be facing in front of your handlebars?
Unless you are into racing, the 25mm will be just fine for you, and they'll be more comfortable and require lower pressure than the 23. Also, tire choice is heavily affected by the sort of riding you plan to do. Urban riding, with all it's curbs and potholes and railroad track crossings, touring with a heavily loaded bike, cyclocross on/off road riding, or riding on different surfaces, all affect the choice of tire one wants. What are your riding plans? Only commuting, or also touring, weekend-MUP-master, utility-grocery-load-bearing, or training to be "Speed Racer" on a two-wheeled Mach...3? Will you be on pavement only? If so, what condition is the pavement? If not, what other surfaces will you be facing in front of your handlebars?
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Once you got 'em in, tho... you don't have to do it again unless you get a flat.
But they are also an added expense. By the time you buy some less expensive tires, AND Mr Tuffie's, you might as well buy a quality tire to begin with and then not have to worry about installing Tuffies.
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Oh, I rarely pay more than $20 apiece for clinchers, one Mr tuffy is good for about ten new tires for me, they get too wavy to use eventually, it seems.
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So here are my options then...
https://www.amazon.com/Continental-Ga...5779773&sr=1-1
https://www.amazon.com/Michelin-Lithi...5779773&sr=1-3
https://www.amazon.com/Continental-Gr...5779773&sr=1-4
https://www.amazon.com/Continental-4-...5779773&sr=1-5
Should I go for the last one being that I will be a commuter?
https://www.amazon.com/Continental-Ga...5779773&sr=1-1
https://www.amazon.com/Michelin-Lithi...5779773&sr=1-3
https://www.amazon.com/Continental-Gr...5779773&sr=1-4
https://www.amazon.com/Continental-4-...5779773&sr=1-5
Should I go for the last one being that I will be a commuter?
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The GP4000 is a great tire, but you WILL flat more than with Gatorskins.
The Conti 4 Season is a tougher version of the GP4000, but not quite the flat protection that the Gatorskin has.
The Lithion is a good tire, and about like the GP4000 as far as flat resistance.
This is all my humble opinion, of course!
The Conti 4 Season is a tougher version of the GP4000, but not quite the flat protection that the Gatorskin has.
The Lithion is a good tire, and about like the GP4000 as far as flat resistance.
This is all my humble opinion, of course!
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Seems like everyone loves those Gatorskins...
The amazon reviews seem very high as well. I guess that will be my tire of choice.
Thank you for all your input everyone. I can tell already that I will like this forum very much so as everyone is so helpful!
The amazon reviews seem very high as well. I guess that will be my tire of choice.
Thank you for all your input everyone. I can tell already that I will like this forum very much so as everyone is so helpful!
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I've been commuting 20 miles round trip everyday on a pair of Schwalbe Marathon Supreme HDV Tire 700 x 28c Kevlar Bead tires for over a year now and they've been flawless and show very little wear.
I had Bontrager Race-Lite Hardcase 700x25 on my old bike. They were ok, more prone to flats than the Schwalbe and didn't last as long. Also a real pain to swap out tubes on (being a hardcase).
I had Bontrager Race-Lite Hardcase 700x25 on my old bike. They were ok, more prone to flats than the Schwalbe and didn't last as long. Also a real pain to swap out tubes on (being a hardcase).
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I've also got a pair of Grand Prix 4000S's which I love, but use only in nice weather. I've got around 600 miles on them without a single flat.
More than anything, my opinion is based on my interpretation of Continental's technical information about these tires. The Gatorskins have a PolyX breaker, DuraSkin sidewalls and 3-ply 180 TPI rubber. The GP 4 Seasons have a double Vectran breaker, DuraSkin sidewalls and 3-ply 330 TPI rubber. The GP 4000S's have a single Vectran breaker and 3-ply 330 TPI balck chili rubber. From this, it's clear that the 4000S offers less protection than the 4 Season. I haven't found anywhere that Conti states this directly, but I'm fairly sure from reading their marketing that Vectran is stronger than PolyX. That leaves the rubber. The 330 TPI rubber of the GP 4 Season has better grip than the Gatorskins, but it also wears faster and probably cuts easier. So, it isn't a slam dunk case either way, but I think that with the double Vectran breaker the 4 Season overcomes the softer rubber of its tread.
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Whatever you pick, +1 opinion from the peanut gallery saying to go wider on the tires. Many commuters prefer 28-32c, but there are plenty who swear by fat 2" (~50c) mountain bike tires for urban commuting too.
23c is going to be an extremely harsh ride on any but the nicest roads. At leeeast promise you'll move up to 25c, because even on ideal roads, they are only imperceptibly slower, and they're way more rugged for commuting. And strongly consider 28+ too.
If you need to know how to measure to make sure your rims/frame will take larger tires, just ask.
23c is going to be an extremely harsh ride on any but the nicest roads. At leeeast promise you'll move up to 25c, because even on ideal roads, they are only imperceptibly slower, and they're way more rugged for commuting. And strongly consider 28+ too.
If you need to know how to measure to make sure your rims/frame will take larger tires, just ask.
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I'm thinking of getting Panaracer Pasela Tourgards 700 x 35, looking for some feedback from those who commute on them. Thanks
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Whatever you pick, +1 opinion from the peanut gallery saying to go wider on the tires. Many commuters prefer 28-32c, but there are plenty who swear by fat 2" (~50c) mountain bike tires for urban commuting too.
23c is going to be an extremely harsh ride on any but the nicest roads. At leeeast promise you'll move up to 25c, because even on ideal roads, they are only imperceptibly slower, and they're way more rugged for commuting. And strongly consider 28+ too.
If you need to know how to measure to make sure your rims/frame will take larger tires, just ask.
23c is going to be an extremely harsh ride on any but the nicest roads. At leeeast promise you'll move up to 25c, because even on ideal roads, they are only imperceptibly slower, and they're way more rugged for commuting. And strongly consider 28+ too.
If you need to know how to measure to make sure your rims/frame will take larger tires, just ask.
Here is the bike:
https://www.bikepedia.com/quickbike/B...e#.UNAm74poqeA
How can I make sure that the 28s fit? Or would you rather me take some measurements? How large should/can I go?
on a side note: YOU GUYS ARE AMAZING! Threw some bike lube in the shifters and they are perfectly working. I went to a shop and before I can finish what was wrong with the shifters, the guy was selling me on a new 105 set up costing $800! Ewww. Last time I go there!
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Now that it seems you've settled on the tire, let me make one point. Use Trojans to protect your bike... from the rain, I mean.
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By the way, I was talking to my friends dad and he was saying that he LOOOOVVVEEEESSSSS Bontrager products. Never heard of these guys. Any input?