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FBinNY 11-22-13 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Telly (Post 16269219)
Here's a pic I took a earlier in the year after a 20 minute storm:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7356/1...ee20b6af_b.jpg

We have a place in Cozumel, MX and that's exactly what roads look like when it rains. The only difference is that those near the shore are full of SALT water.

RidingMatthew 11-22-13 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Telly (Post 16269219)
That specific picture wasn't taken by me, but it's the closest approximation to what really happens, and in these conditions the grey stuff between my ears kicks in and I (try) using alternative means of transportation. Unfortunately the weather changes so rapidly that I'm sometimes caught in the above conditions and have to soldier on regardless of how soaked I am, and what damages my commuter might sustain (usually potholes which can't be seen under all that water).

Here's a pic I took a earlier in the year after a 20 minute storm:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7356/1...ee20b6af_b.jpg

wow Telly you could ride a fat bike through that stuff!

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Originally Posted by bmontgomery87 (Post 16269211)
I'm planning on upping my weight training in december/january/february. I'm going to keep commuting but I know my mileage is going to drop a bit. I've got a 5k on Thanksgiving morning so that should be an interesting change of pace, cause I don't run.

+1 on the earlier commutes. I leave work early a few days per week, and the traffic is so much better.

i was going to do a 5k on thanksgiving with my sister but she hurt her leg. I am hoping to hit the mountain bike before consuming turkey and all the trimmings. I will be hitting the gym next week too since it is going to be so cold, nasty next week. I love riding but miss the weight training. When I get back in the gym and lifting I really like it. So does the Mrs. :love:

wapiti 11-22-13 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Telly (Post 16269113)
That only works if the driver isn't a moron... last time I did that (less slap, more gentle tap), the incident almost escalated to a brawl because the chimpanzee behind the wheel was worried that I might have scratched his paint with my course palm.


I left a lot more than a scratch on a car recently. Woman came through an intersection to make a left turn. The problem is that I was where she wanted to go and was forced to turn sharply to avoid getting creamed.

I guarantee she has, at the very least, a scrtach on the the side of her car where my cycling shoe with cleat attached made contact.

wapiti 11-22-13 01:11 PM

Yesterday and today were nice.

Clear skies and clear roads. About -12*C leaving the house in the morning and last night heading home was about -4*C. Today will be a bity warmer.

Better than Monday and Tuesday when I was riding home through almost freezing temps with heavy rain and a little snow mixed in for good measure.

groovestew 11-22-13 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 16267912)
It warmed up to -13C today and we are expected to get another 4 inches of snow before tomorrow... rode down to the south side to teach a class before the snow started falling and this was great as I made really excellent time.

The ride home was a more of a slog as a few inches of snow had fallen and cars were churning things up on the roads.

It's pretty gross out there...good on ya for braving the elements.

I "commuted" to my home office with a 30 minute ride on the stationary bike. :p

Mr. Hairy Legs 11-22-13 09:54 PM

I saw a new low in driving stupidity today as a guy went whizzing by while typing a message with both hands on his Blackberry, staring down the whole time.

Starting to warm up again now; it's been below freezing in the mornings for most of the week. Somehow that always makes me ride slower.

Sixty Fiver 11-23-13 01:50 AM

Today's commute was sucktastic... I needed to drive the car and it took nearly 40 minutes to drive 20 blocks on roads that were not that bad although it seems that the snow was giving some driver's fits.

I felt like the only person who was running winter tyres.

RidingMatthew 11-23-13 08:05 AM

I rode home last night after working some OT. It was dark and then it started to rain about halfway home. I was not expecting that. The cool part was that it was fairly warm and did not make the ride totally miserable. I think me riding in the dark makes my wife so nervous especially when I got home and she saw that I was soaked. :/

It sure felt good to be pedaling though.

bonus was listening to the rain pitter patter on the leaves and smelling the wet leaves as I rode. It made me remember my childhood. Funny how smells bring back memories!

cehowardGS 11-23-13 08:13 AM

Let me tell.. The temp yesterday, and the day before was in the low 40s. I put on too much clothing.. When I reached the subway, I had to peel off..Put back on when exiting the subway. Went for a ride in the cold morning through the old streets. Nothing like it.. 5:50 am in the morning, dark streets, cold, and mucho lights on my bike. Great ride.. I cannot tell you how much cars give you respect when you are running bright lights. I ran across some ninjas out there, don't know how they do it.. At first light, here they come, still almost dark, no lights whatsoever...

Anyway, when they are in front of me, they get lite up, I tell you that..:lol:

wapiti 11-23-13 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 16271003)
Today's commute was sucktastic... I needed to drive the car and it took nearly 40 minutes to drive 20 blocks on roads that were not that bad although it seems that the snow was giving some driver's fits.

I felt like the only person who was running winter tyres.

When I was a kid growing up in Edmonton, everyone had winter tires. It was just the way it was. October 1 you put the snows on.

sometime over the last number of years that has all changed. People have got stupid and lazy and they believe .the marketing from the tire companies saying that you only need "all seasons" which is convenient because people are too cheap to pay the money to buy the proper tires.

People are getting more stupid and more selfish and I don't see it changing for the better.

FBinNY 11-23-13 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by wapiti (Post 16271621)
... People have got stupid and lazy and they believe the marketing from the tire companies saying that you only need "all seasons" ...

Don't blame the tire sellers, there's a difference between all season and all weather. I'm an all season bicyclist, but leave the bike home in ice and tough snow conditions (I can ride on snow, but reserve that for frozen lakes). That means I'm not an all weather cyclist.

Likewise with car tires. All season tires make sense where snow is fairly rare, or the accumulations are small, or when roads are plowed and sanded or salted. For folks who are willing to leave the car home 3-4 days a year (if that) all seasons pay off in better tire life, and fuel economy. Obviously if roads are snow covered more than a few days a year, and/or driving in all conditions is a necessity, than you need a SNOW tire, studded if clear ice is also common.

So all season isn't all weather, and folks need to decide which they need, and accept the limitations.

PatrickGSR94 11-23-13 06:01 PM

Had our local Cranksgiving event today, and decided to commute on my bike to and from the event (30 miles round trip) plus the 12 mile fun ride, so I got in 42+ miles today. Going up there was a constant 15-20 MPH headwind in which I averaged only about 10.9 MPH. Going home was awesome, 14.1 MPH average. :thumb: Great event which raised over $500 for the Mid-South Food Bank, which purchases over $1500 worth of food for local charities.

Paramount1973 11-23-13 06:22 PM

Actually, it was two days ago on Thursday. As I neared my site on the MUP, a POS compact sedan passed by me on the nearby road. One of the 20-something back seat occupants yelled, "Nice bike, Grandpa!"

I had to laugh a little because I am a grandfather and yes, it is a nice bike:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8120/8...e15c481c_c.jpg
P4170271 by galoot_loves_tools, on Flickr

dcb23 11-25-13 06:08 AM

Cold! Coldest of the year or since I can recall: 24F/-4C slight headwind. I layered up and broke out the wool socks.

Worst part was how long the building shower took to warm up.

spivonious 11-25-13 08:18 AM

20F when I left this morning with a 5-10mph headwind. I added a sweatshirt and knit hat to my usual cold weather outfit and arrived at work pleasantly warm. I pumped up the tires a bit higher than normal while in the garage; I think it helped.

Only one idiot driver on the ride in. A lady in an old SUV decided to pass me while I was signaling to move into the straight lane approaching a red light. I yielded to her and pulled in behind (not wanting to get run over on a legal technicality). No sooner than I pulled in behind her, she pulled over into the right turn lane to turn right, without signaling of course. *sigh* But it's only cyclists that break traffic laws.

spivonious 11-25-13 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by FBinNY (Post 16271721)
Don't blame the tire sellers, there's a difference between all season and all weather. I'm an all season bicyclist, but leave the bike home in ice and tough snow conditions (I can ride on snow, but reserve that for frozen lakes). That means I'm not an all weather cyclist.

Likewise with car tires. All season tires make sense where snow is fairly rare, or the accumulations are small, or when roads are plowed and sanded or salted. For folks who are willing to leave the car home 3-4 days a year (if that) all seasons pay off in better tire life, and fuel economy. Obviously if roads are snow covered more than a few days a year, and/or driving in all conditions is a necessity, than you need a SNOW tire, studded if clear ice is also common.

So all season isn't all weather, and folks need to decide which they need, and accept the limitations.

Interesting fact, all-seasons are a compromise all-around. If you're going to install snow tires, then your other set should be summer tires (which are good on wet and dry pavement but not mud or light snow). There's a video on Youtube where someone compares stopping distance and handling for all three types with simulated conditions.

acidfast7 11-25-13 08:31 AM

warmer again. 7c/45f.

took the toeclips off the pedals because of a slight accident I had last Friday evening. I saw the ice (the lane must not get any sun) and tried to break gently, which I did, but couldn't get my foot out of the pedal quickly enough to stop from going down on the my knee. Now I had a bruise under by knee cap and ripped bar tape and some ankle scratches :(

but I rode in today after taking the clips off and just leaving the pedals ... i do miss them on the hills :(

otherwise, business as usual.

acidfast7 11-25-13 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by spivonious (Post 16276107)
Interesting fact, all-seasons are a compromise all-around. If you're going to install snow tires, then your other set should be summer tires (which are good on wet and dry pavement but not mud or light snow). There's a video on Youtube where someone compares stopping distance and handling for all three types with simulated conditions.

I run winter tires (mandatory in Germany) and summer tires on the Audi.

The summer tires are great except in the rain.

The winter tires allow the FWD Audi excellent control in the snow ... but impose a roughly 15% fuel consumption penalty!

I didn't have space for both, so I roll on the winter tires year round in the UK.

dramiscram 11-25-13 09:16 AM

Cold morning, -12 celcius, -20 with the windchill factor. Swirling winds.

Tonight should be a pain in the ass with the same temperature but a strong 20-40 kmh headwind.

arsprod 11-25-13 10:01 AM

23F this morning and first ride of the year with studs (put them on yesterday). Holy crap, I felt like I was riding a log. I know I'll get used to it as in the past but days like this could convince me I really am crazy. Probably good timing since snow is forecast for tonight and the next couple days.

As I was struggling to keep a pace I started wondering why there aren't studded non racing motorcycle tires? I was dreaming of riding a powered vehicle!

ShartRate 11-25-13 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by arsprod (Post 16276421)
As I was struggling to keep a pace I started wondering why there aren't studded non racing motorcycle tires? I was dreaming of riding a powered vehicle!

IMO it's a few things. One is a difference in the culture, around here in general I think motorcycles do even more toy duty than bicycles do. The other thing is that most people don't want to take their fancy-faired motorcycle out on the ice even if they have studs, just too much damage happens even if you tip over. Finally, it's too hard to stay warm on a motorcycle unless you are running full heated gear. Most motorcycles don't have the electric capacity to run all that heated gear and most people don't own it anyway.

Just for the body heat alone I don't ride the motorcycles much below ~40F, ice notwithstanding. I'm not having a bad time on the bicycle at ~15F though.

FBinNY 11-25-13 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ShartRate (Post 16276513)
IMO it's a few things. One is a difference in the culture, around here in general I think motorcycles do even more toy duty than bicycles do. The other thing is that most people don't want to take their fancy-faired motorcycle out on the ice even if they have studs, just too much damage happens even if you tip over. Finally, it's too hard to stay warm on a motorcycle unless you are running full heated gear. Most motorcycles don't have the electric capacity to run all that heated gear and most people don't own it anyway.

Just for the body heat alone I don't ride the motorcycles much below ~40F, ice notwithstanding. I'm not having a bad time on the bicycle at ~15F though.

It's much more simple. The risk and consequences of dumping a motorcycle are more serious. It's one thing to have a bike slide out from under you and bruise a hip or shoulder. It's quite another to have a motorcycle do this at 50+mph.

Bach when I rode motorcycles, I'd even lay up under an overpass if caught in a sudden squall. Rain added another layer of risk, that was acceptable if necessary, but nice to avoid if possible. The thought of hitting ice at speed, would be enough to keep me off motorcycles altogether if in an area where it's common.

BTW- at my age, with stiffer joints, possibly more brittle bones, and plenty of scar tissue on knees and elbows, I try to avoid even minor spills to the extent I can. So some of what was reasonable 40 years ago is now beyond my threshold of acceptable. Though if the ponds freeze over and friends ask me to join them in some slip and slide rides I'm still dumb enough to go.

groovestew 11-25-13 10:43 AM

Managed to ride to work today. Around -7C/19F, quite cold on the face at first. Tough slog through some residential areas where there hasn't been enough traffic to really pack the snow down. Arterial roads were okay, though bike lanes are now non-existent because that's where the plows pile the snow. Trails have been plowed and seem like they're well trafficked.

Assuming I make it home okay, today I will hit 3000 km total cycling for the year. That's nothing compared to some of you guys, and well below my own previous years' totals, but under the circumstances this year, I'm happy with what I accomplished.

ShartRate 11-25-13 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FBinNY (Post 16276571)
It's much more simple. The risk and consequences of dumping a motorcycle are more serious. It's one thing to have a bike slide out from under you and bruise a hip or shoulder. It's quite another to have a motorcycle do this at 50+mph.

I had that thought just after I posted, lol. If you check out the adventure bike forums, there's a few "brave" souls out there who are personally studding tires to go on their 100hp, 600 pound touring beasts. Things have the potential to go literally sideways very quickly with such a machine! I'm finding that in winter bicycle conditions I'm rarely getting above 12 mph or so, at my age I think I can probably handle a fall or 2 at that speed.

FBinNY 11-25-13 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ShartRate (Post 16276682)
....I'm finding that in winter bicycle conditions I'm rarely getting above 12 mph or so, at my age I think I can probably handle a fall or 2 at that speed.

Having ridden over and gone down on black ice, I can tell you that it's no fun at all. It doesn't feel like a typical bike fall, or slide out on a turn. When you hit black ice at speed the bike shoots out from under you like a cartoon banana shooting out of the skin. The time interval between knowing you have a problem and hitting the pavement can be near zero. Now your riding, now you;re sliding.

On the bright side, this happens in the winter when you're well padded so there's no road rash, and the impact itself is less than it would be in the summer. If the ice patch is long enough, you don't even rip your clothes, though it isn't fun either way.

My fear of black ice isn't the fall, but the slide path, and following traffic.


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