Cycling offenses go on your driving record?
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Cycling offenses go on your driving record?
Saw this article on the Oregonian this morning. Oregon and Washington cyclist don't have anything to worry about, for the moment. However, in California your cycling offenses do show up on your driving record
https://www.oregonlive.com/commuting/...bicyclist.html
https://www.oregonlive.com/commuting/...bicyclist.html
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In Germany, every offense is loaded into a central database (Punkte in Flensburg) including tourists and people without German licenses (including cyclists).
One is not allowed to do a direct US-for-Germany license exchange when they have PiF already.
One is not allowed to do a direct US-for-Germany license exchange when they have PiF already.
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I don't see a problem with that.
I desire to be treated as a regular road user by the other users of public roads. Subsequently, I ride by the rules and laws of the road and expect them to do the same.
Seems as though rule infractions should hold the same weight regardless of the type of vehicle one is driving. Why wouldn't they?
I desire to be treated as a regular road user by the other users of public roads. Subsequently, I ride by the rules and laws of the road and expect them to do the same.
Seems as though rule infractions should hold the same weight regardless of the type of vehicle one is driving. Why wouldn't they?
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I don't see a problem with that.
I desire to be treated as a regular road user by the other users of public roads. Subsequently, I ride by the rules and laws of the road and expect them to do the same.
Seems as though rule infractions should hold the same weight regardless of the type of vehicle one is driving. Why wouldn't they?
I desire to be treated as a regular road user by the other users of public roads. Subsequently, I ride by the rules and laws of the road and expect them to do the same.
Seems as though rule infractions should hold the same weight regardless of the type of vehicle one is driving. Why wouldn't they?
I like it.
A lot.
As it makes people use the cycling infrastructure properly.
FWIW, the fine is €200 and a one month ban on driving.
*However, a speeding ticket can be as low as a €10 fine, which I like because on certain sections of the Autobahn it goes from unlimited (traffic moving at 100+ mph) to 80km/h (50mph) quite quickly.
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here they're quite serious and they occasionally have days where they stop bikes, which I like because it makes people following the rules:
moving violation (fines/suspensions): https://www.howtogermany.com/pages/tr...iolations.html
stopping the bikes in Frankfurt:
moving violation (fines/suspensions): https://www.howtogermany.com/pages/tr...iolations.html
stopping the bikes in Frankfurt:
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If we want to be treated equally on the roads as legitimate vehicle traffic, that means we'll have to be treated equally under the law for violating traffic laws. I'm amazed that they don't require licensing yet, for "driving" bicycles on the road. (Here in the US, that is. Maybe they do elsewhere...)
How would the driving exam for that work, anyhow? A tandem? Or just two bicyclists, with the one behind being the examiner?
How would the driving exam for that work, anyhow? A tandem? Or just two bicyclists, with the one behind being the examiner?
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here they're quite serious and they occasionally have days where they stop bikes, which I like because it makes people following the rules:
moving violation (fines/suspensions): https://www.howtogermany.com/pages/tr...iolations.html
stopping the bikes in Frankfurt:
moving violation (fines/suspensions): https://www.howtogermany.com/pages/tr...iolations.html
stopping the bikes in Frankfurt:
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I'd think unpaid fines would put a ding on one's credit rating. And you failed to mention another tactic they could take: impounding your vehicle till the fine was paid, or till the time limit is reached and they auction it off!
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However, in California your cycling offenses do show up on your driving record
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https://www.sfbike.org/?bikelaw_ticket_faq
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If we want to be treated equally on the roads as legitimate vehicle traffic, that means we'll have to be treated equally under the law for violating traffic laws. I'm amazed that they don't require licensing yet, for "driving" bicycles on the road. (Here in the US, that is. Maybe they do elsewhere...)
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Its actually pretty hard to get ticketed here on a bicycle. Anyone stupid enough and reckless enough to acumulate a bunch of demerit points on a bicycle they don't want behind the wheel of a car. So that part actually works just fine!
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It (bicycle rider licensing) wouldn't work, that is why no one seriously proposes it in the U.S.
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In Quebec, violations such as failure to stop, riding on sidewalks, riding the wrong way on a one way, will get you an 85$ ticket as well as the loss of 3 points on your driver's license. What if you don't have a license? When you apply for one, a 6 month suspension will come into play and you cannot get a learners for the next 6 months.
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Correction. A four month suspension is applied if the person has more that 4 points over a 2 year period.
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In Quebec, violations such as failure to stop, riding on sidewalks, riding the wrong way on a one way, will get you an 85$ ticket as well as the loss of 3 points on your driver's license. What if you don't have a license? When you apply for one, a 6 month suspension will come into play and you cannot get a learners for the next 6 months.
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I don't see a problem with that.
I desire to be treated as a regular road user by the other users of public roads. Subsequently, I ride by the rules and laws of the road and expect them to do the same.
Seems as though rule infractions should hold the same weight regardless of the type of vehicle one is driving. Why wouldn't they?
I desire to be treated as a regular road user by the other users of public roads. Subsequently, I ride by the rules and laws of the road and expect them to do the same.
Seems as though rule infractions should hold the same weight regardless of the type of vehicle one is driving. Why wouldn't they?
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The really weird part is that in CA they'll ticket you for public transit violations (riding the train without a ticket and such) as if it were a parking ticket. One time I got ticketed for not having a bus pass, and they were completely stumped when I couldn't present a driver's license.
I'm on board with cycling offenses showing up on a driving record. After all, I am using the road on my bike and should act accordingly.
I'm on board with cycling offenses showing up on a driving record. After all, I am using the road on my bike and should act accordingly.
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I don't see a problem with that.
I desire to be treated as a regular road user by the other users of public roads. Subsequently, I ride by the rules and laws of the road and expect them to do the same.
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Seems as though rule infractions should hold the same weight regardless of the type of vehicle one is driving. Why wouldn't they?
I desire to be treated as a regular road user by the other users of public roads. Subsequently, I ride by the rules and laws of the road and expect them to do the same.
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Seems as though rule infractions should hold the same weight regardless of the type of vehicle one is driving. Why wouldn't they?
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I'm not, I've yet to see home owners and business owners erect barriers to protect themselves from reckless cyclists, and why are motor vehicle manufactures crash standards so high, again it's not because of cyclists.
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I don't see a problem with that.
I desire to be treated as a regular road user by the other users of public roads. Subsequently, I ride by the rules and laws of the road and expect them to do the same.
Seems as though rule infractions should hold the same weight regardless of the type of vehicle one is driving. Why wouldn't they?
I desire to be treated as a regular road user by the other users of public roads. Subsequently, I ride by the rules and laws of the road and expect them to do the same.
Seems as though rule infractions should hold the same weight regardless of the type of vehicle one is driving. Why wouldn't they?
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