bunkiefd4

Already did that. Have you even read this thread?

DX-MAN

Lock and load, bunkiefd4. To hell with the rest, it's YOUR ass. YOU get to decide who bites it.

UberGeek

Yes, mostly. I just found it odd you jumped to reach for a gun to solve the situation, prior to talking to local animal control and law enforcement.

DX-MAN

So you DIDN'T read it. Here's the first post in the thread -- after trying to escape (and almost getting HIT), OP contacts the chief of police. Where's the jump to a gun? He's had previous experience with animal control, got the free & clear from law enforcement to do what he had to do, and the apparent owner isn't doing shat about the whole deal. He's done more than I would have, and you want to second-guess him? Who the hell are you to do that? This man is a fireman, a public servant -- what do YOU do for society?

ItsJustMe

It doesn't sound to me like you read the thread. You just saw "gun" and immediately thought "hothead idiot"

UberGeek

More or less, and I'll admit as much. Which is really what it boils down to.

He reached out to a chief of police, not in the jurisdiction, who was a friend of the dog owner, to try and rectify. When that didn't work, he figured a gun is the solution.

UberGeek

Read this part:
So keep that in mind. I made contact with the police chief about the situation (this is not in the police dept's jurisdiction) because the chief knows the owner really well.

He really needed to talk to the chief of police IN THAT LOCATION'S JURISDICTION, instead of saying,"Well, gotta use mah gun!" Or, if police don't handle violent animals (And, most will, AFAIK), contact animal control.

jowilson

Not sure if this has already been posted in here but it may be worth the redundancy:

https://travellingtwo.com/resources/dealing-with-dogs

Popeyecahn

He did exactly that:

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post15578473

The house is in the county and under the Sheriff's office jurisdiction and not within the purview of the animal control from the nearest municipality. What he did in asking a friend in high places to intervene was a good bet, it just didn't pan out.

It is instructive to read through a post sometimes...

UberGeek

And, his first thought, before going to the sheriff's office was to whip out a gun... That's what I'm shaking my head over.

Santaria

You've got a few problems to overcome, but before I explain, let me put out a little back story.

I live in a colonia, on the border of Mexico/Texas. This is no-man's land, figuratively. The city of Brownsville police and animal control do not come out to this area, the county does, but is already strained for staff/logistics. So when we have a dog problem out here, you're on your own. Last year I was hounded by a small pack of dogs, which were more dangerous because of what they were, chihuahuas. I know that sounds funny, but because of their size, they were more of a danger of getting caught up in my bike than biting me.

After 2 months of just hammering beyond them, the worst possible outcome happened. I was riding my Karate Monkey, with platform pedals at about 18 mph coming around the bend where they lived. The lady owned 4 of them and they were unrestrained; one of them got into my wheel as I stood up to sprint away from them and the dog lived, but I took ended up going down very hard, getting a concussion and road rash as I slide some 15-20 feet down the road. By the time I snapped to my feet and went into rage mode, the dogs were already behind her "fence" again and her and the home healthcare worker that was in her front yard just stared at me. I made it very clear that we had a problem, and her response was

"No English." I asked the other lady and her response was simply "I don't want to get involved." I lost 2 days work and really wasn't comfortable until they moved a few months later.

The deputy told me there was nothing in their power to do for me, other than take someone to court for the damages; taking someone who has nothing to lose to court isn't beneficial and no amount of "feel good cause I won a court battle" mentality is going to fix that problem.

I carry mace for dogs, exclusively, and haven't had to use it; I pray I don't because at the end of the day, you and I both know that you're not worried about wind, how it will make the dog feel or any other "feel good" mindsets that want to dictate what the appropriate response is during a situation.

You're scared, a dog is chasing you (dogs), and you're both looking at your life (in the case of dangerous dogs) and possibly getting injured because of the road hazard - no amount of animal rights is going to change this fact.

I wouldn't shot the dog because I just don't do the gun thing, but I wouldn't begrudge you if you felt that was the only option you had in your case.

wapiti

What I have learned from reading this.

Many cyclist have atrocious spelling and grammar skills.

Too many cyclists/people have a love affair with guns.

Santaria

Never critique people with an incomplete sentence.

wapiti

rite .......

genec

Not to derail the rest of your comments, but in some areas there is no other way between A and B... especially out west or in rural areas... the OP may not have a choice but to go this route or hack a way through woods or swim a lake or something.

In fact, google map Bunkie Louisiana and just see how many "alternate routes" exist on the edge of town.

bunkiefd4

Your wrong again bud.

bunkiefd4

You know I've had several occasions where I could have shot those viscous animals but I haven't. I'm trying to do the rite thing here. Some of you are jumping the gun on me about the gun idea and I haven't even done anything.

Now this morning I rode to work without incident. They weren't even out. But they are sill around and I'm still having a problem but I'm just sucking it up and dealing with it. But don't forget, my patience is running real thin.

Santaria

Bunkie,

I think the problem is two things, but first, before someone pretends they're the English professor for this thread again - it's spelled right, which is different than write, but still not the same as right, because if you did this right, they'd be all like "alright!" I digress; some people get worked up over things written on the Internet because they've never had to deal with actually teaching, but instead just know how to act butthurt when words aren't pretty enough for them.

Keep up the patience and know that it doesn't matter what people say on a forum on the Internet; do what makes you feel safe ultimately.

Bent Bill

I have been reading this thread since the beginning
And I for one think you have went a lot farther than is necessary

You should not have to worry about being attacked by any animal or person
just because you ride a bike on a road

I think if your bothered again you should end the problem permanently
before yourself or some one else gets hurt or maimed

that or maybe you could have one of these dog whisper animal lover/gun haters take care of it for you
they can wag there finger at them and say no no doggy go home

350htrr

Brain storm... How about a paintball pistol, whack them dogs a couple of rounds and I would bet they stop harassing you... In fact, soon, every time the see a bicycler they would run the other direction after a few episodes of paintball smacks in the face... JMO I personally use bear-spray...

DX-MAN

Genius...pure GENIUS. SERIOUSLY! *Headsmack* PAINTBALL GUN, ABSOLUTELY THE BEST ANSWER!

And what makes that even worse for ME is that I've spent nearly a year, off and on, trying to figure out the best way to hook my bike up with a paintball gun for "other" reasons (lol). 350htrr, ya GOT it!

(Just another example of 'I really haven't had a very good DAY...')

mattgmann

If you do go the way of a paint pistol, there are rounds available with pepper spray inside. They seem to work well for stopping the police having to wrestle with knife wielding maniacs/crackheads/hippies etc. Outside of the fact that hitting a pooch with a paintball gun may pose a challenge, the teargas effect from the pepper rounds can affect the doggies regardless of whether you hit them or not.

gitarzan

You know what. This is a job for Turtleman! Live action!

bunkiefd4

Lol, thanks for the suggestions guys. Yea the paintball idea isn't to shabby if I say so. It's just to go buy that and carry it on the bike, that's the only problem.

Ive been hoping that kid that waits for the school bus, his dad, was supposedly suppose to taken care of the problem but hasn't. That would have been perfect for me but I guess the guys wife was talking a load of crap. Are her husband is a sissy.

treebound 

Sometimes I wish everyone could have a couple action camera mounted to their bikes, I know that I've been watching for a deal for a GoPro to mount on my bicycle. With youtube and vimeo and sensationalistic news reporting I can envision many ways to bring public pressure onto situations like this.

And I also still have a mental image in my head of a ladder truck with a water cannon extended over the roadway one morning just waiting for you to ride past and then water blasting the pack of dogs when the dogs give chase of the cyclist. Call it a training exercise for the fire crew, but then the dogs would probably see the truck and just sit in the yard wagging their pseudo-innocent tails.

Sometimes there are no simple solutions.