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Old 02-18-05, 02:52 PM   #1
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Old 02-18-05, 02:56 PM   #2
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Cute cyclist image but the gas can (?) looks like a boom box from here.
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Old 02-18-05, 02:59 PM   #3
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Cute cyclist image but the gas can (?) looks like a boom box from here.

gas box? door car?
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I like the idea but agree that the car picture is hard to pick up on. Are you gonna sell these?
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I don't get it. A cyclist vs. a car door? Is it supposed to be a statement about dooring (when a cyclist riding too close -- within 4-5 feet -- to parked cars crashes into a car door that is opened in front of him)?

Or is it about "getting ON your bike" vs. "getting IN your car"?
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I don't get it. A cyclist vs. a car door? Is it supposed to be a statement about dooring (when a cyclist riding too close -- within 4-5 feet -- to parked cars crashes into a car door that is opened in front of him)?

Or is it about "getting ON your bike" vs. "getting IN your car"?

Uh, its the 'dooring' thing...

They're being sold at Trackstar in NYC for the time being. The rider image needs an update though.
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It looks like the biker's left cuff is rolled up, but not the right. Shouldn't it be the other way ? Still a pretty cool idea.
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It looks like the biker's left cuff is rolled up, but not the right. Shouldn't it be the other way ? Still a pretty cool idea.

yup. Hence the needed update. I flipped the image during preproduction and forgot about it. Since all shirts are hand screened, and in very limited numbers at that. Changing won't be to much of a problem
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[QUOTE=Serge *******]I don't get it. A cyclist vs. a car door? Is it supposed to be a statement about dooring (when a cyclist riding too close -- within 4-5 feet -- to parked cars crashes into a car door that is opened in front of him)?

Serge,
in most states it is the responsibility of the driver to make sure the roadway is clear before they open their door. Here in LA you either ride in the 4-5 feet zone or you impede 45mph traffic on roads like Beverly, Santa Monica, or La Brea.

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I like it.
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It looks like the biker's left cuff is rolled up, but not the right. Shouldn't it be the other way ? Still a pretty cool idea.
You still riding facing forward?
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You still riding facing forward?
Personally, I've been going sidesaddle lately. Saves weight cause I only need one crank.
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Old 02-18-05, 03:39 PM   #13
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that took me way to long...
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in most states it is the responsibility of the driver to make sure the roadway is clear before they open their door. Here in LA you either ride in the 4-5 feet zone or you impede 45mph traffic on roads like Beverly, Santa Monica, or La Brea.
Same thing on many arterials in San Diego, including a few blocks of La Jolla Village Drive on my commute.

Dooring is not only dangerous because of the possibility of crashing into the opening door, but a cyclist is also likely to suddenly swerve left to avoid an opening door, which could put him right in front of an overtaking motor vehicle. At 10-20+ mph, there is often no time to stop.

If you want to risk your safety by relying on motorists to adhere to their legal obligation to check behind before they open their door, be my guest.

For myself, I'm not going to risk my safety in order to avoid impeding motorists who can change lanes to pass me. The busses on my route have learned to change lanes as soon as they see me riding up ahead. I watch them do it in my rear-view mirror. As soon as they pass me they move back to the right lane.

Would you agree that riding a motorcycle at 10-20mph in the door zone is reckless driving? I think door zone bike riding is arguably also reckless behavior.

Back to the shirt. OK, it's the dooring thing, but what is the statement? Watch for cyclists before you open your door? Cyclists should watch for opening doors?

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The shirt does nothing for me.

Sorry
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- - Yeah, I don't get it.
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I want one. How could I get one?
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yup. Hence the needed update. I flipped the image during preproduction and forgot about it. Since all shirts are hand screened, and in very limited numbers at that. Changing won't be to much of a problem
I figured you'd either flipped the image, or might be riding against the "mainstream".
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Old 02-20-05, 06:23 PM   #19
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I figured you'd either flipped the image, or might be riding against the "mainstream".

Well it was during my research period on a leftside drive transmission. I'm going to reshoot it for correctness and also add a female version too.
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You should also use a LH door
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I laughed out loud when I opened the image (well, it was sort of a cringe-laugh "hah!" of recognition). I love how the "vs" and stance of the cyclist suggest a hyperbolic video-game battle (and this is from someone who doesn't play video games). I'd be all over a female version. Though I suppose asking for a female, Asian, red-striped hair, rhinestone-glasses-wearing version is too much to ask for.

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Yeah, are there chances of you doing a non-white, female biker? Or maybe just a bike vs a door? Not that I want to completely change your idea around, because then you'd start having to use different sorts of bikes, and people, and I can see this snowballing.
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I laughed out loud when I opened the image (well, it was sort of a cringe-laugh "hah!" of recognition). I love how the "vs" and stance of the cyclist suggest a hyperbolic video-game battle (and this is from someone who doesn't play video games). I'd be all over a female version. Though I suppose asking for a female, Asian, red-striped hair, rhinestone-glasses-wearing version is too much to ask for.

Haha- I love that sort of reaction!
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