asmac

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...bike-rack.html

noglider 

It is a slap in the face, but can't she lock her bike to a nearby parking meter or street sign?

Burton

I give up! She'd really rather have the right to park outside and risk having the bike stolen or vandalized rather than use the secure inside bike parking facilities provided for that purpose????

bikemig 

Yes! Apparently the canadian charter of rights and freedoms (sort of just like the US bill of rights) protects stupidity . . . The owner of the bike, who apparently is the cycling fashion editor for Momentum Magazine (nice job), is a professional (according to her comments) whose bicycle added to the "tone" of the building.

Burton

So why exactly is every bike rack somehow considered public property? There are bike racks installed in front of several bike shops here in Montreal. They were bought and paid for by the bike shops and put outside for the benifit of customers of the shop - not for people that want to go to the restaurant next door or to give the guy in the apartment down the street someplace to lock up his bike.

And ocassionally things can get complicated because one shop takes the racks inside at closing time. And if there's someone's bike still locked in the rack - that comes inside too. That usually causes a hissy fit, but is probably better than cutting the lock and leaving the bike outside.

I would have expected more professional behavior from a so-called professional myself.

acidfast7

lol

ride a commuter and chain it in the street like everyone else.

polishmadman

Does she work at that building on a regular basis? If not, I can see why this would tick her off. If she does, pay for the bike locker. Its safer there then on a street anyways.

dynodonn 

Definitely the fault of the building owners to not post a parking time limit notice or as a private parking rack. Anytime I see an unmarked outside bike rack, I certainly would have considered it for public use.

FenderTL5

Are all the parking spots for cars designated as well?

I don't know how it works there; It's not unusual to see some places with 'Customer Parking Only' but it's rare except for some areas downtown. I've never really given it a second thought, if I go to a business and there's a bike rack close by - I lock up unless it's marked for a specific shop customers only.

I'm fortunate that our building has a bike rack inside the parking garage for employee bikes. No fee, I don't even have to get a parking pass. I just flash my employee ID to the guard/attendant. The rack is next to the attendant station.

modernjess

Like any parking for any vehicle if there isn't a sign stating the limitations of the space by the owners of the space or the street then one is left to assume it is unregulated. They should have posted a sign. Their response to her was boneheaded. That is their mistake

Her mistake was to publicize it. Outraged? Really? I'm sorry but I have no sympathy for her.

spivonious

They should have posted a sign about the time limit, and their response implying that bicycles in front of a building make it look less "professional" is just asinine.

Bill Kapaun

I agree there should be a sign that at least states the time limit.
I think she's a twit for wanting to pursue the issue after having been given notice.

DX-MAN

See moochems' post below -- maybe she didn't feel the need to PAY when there was a free rack out front, and felt the risk was as 'nominal' as the fee.

So, exercising a freedom of choice that disagrees with yours is stupid? I can't get my reply to that past the censor.

Exactly -- and if that was the only option the company was willing to provide, the "free" rack would not exist.

Nobody considered it 'public property' -- she said she asked the company to install the rack, so where are you coming from with this? And she wasn't using it for other purposes, she WORKED there. GEEEEEZ.........

If the company that bought/installed the rack wanted to have limitations, fine, do so -- but you have to advise USERS what those limits are, as in "with a sign".

DX-MAN

If it's so reasonable to you, YOU pay the fee FOR her. Othewise, shut up.

SHE said she was "crazy angry"; the WRITER said "outraged". And I'm QUITE sure your sympathy is ALL-IMPORTANT.

MEversbergII

Guys, we're all brothers-in-bikes here, let's not get too heated over someone else's bad day.

M.

bikemig 

Sure you could; all you need do is to exercise a small degree of wit . . . .

Btw, I am very certain that you have never thought that anyone who disagreed with you might be wrong.

polishmadman

If I work there, I would pay for the locker. Because I would love to have Bike lockers to park my bikes. As another poster said, why would you want to lock up out in the open when you have a locker available. But from what i got from the story, she may not known about the lockers at first. I'm always struggling for a safe place to park. I'll stop riding before I leave my bike outside.

@ DX-MAN. Why don't you relax. Go for a ride or something. There is no reason for the hostility. It's only an opinion. And all I was saying is I agree with her if she doesn't work there on a regular basis. If she does work in the building regularly then see above.

Burton

Except that in this case the rack was on PRIVATE PROPERTY. I'm sure there's garage parking provided for cars too. Which doesn't mean if you have a car and work thwre you can park where ever you feel like.

I don't agree with the 'bikes in front of our building spoil our professional image' response of the corporation - but neither was her handling of things very 'professional'.

exile

She is the cycling fashion editor for a magazine who works in the building. she lobied in the past to have a bike rack installed and one day there was one so she parks. She gets a ticket warning her that it is for temporary parking only; however no sign is posted. She shares the ticket on twitter and soon it becomes a big debate so the media picks up the story.

Now there seems to be a debate on BF that she should pay the fee and park her bike in a room without knowing anything about it (how much it would cost, how large it is, how secured it is). Did I miss anything?

What if car parking is free for company employees but you have to pay to park your bike, would that change peoples opinions? What if the bike room is unsecured, about the size of janitors closet, compete with other bikes for limited space, and have nothing to secure it to in the room; is that the best alternative? I guess I need more information .

DX-MAN

Don't sweat so easily, madman; like most folks, you overestimate my reaction -- that wasn't hostile, I am rarely really hostile here on BF. I save it for FB. Just a little 'barbed', that's all.

And you reiterate the point i was calling out -- what YOU would do, what makes sense to YOU, isn't HER answer, nor is it smarter by default. If you want to pay for the bike locker parking, do so; it wasn't an option she considered worthy, evidently.

Allow other people to make decisions that work for them, and allow them to fight back against what they perceive to be issues; just like YOU want/demand from society. She doesn't have to meet your standards until you're paying her living expenses (my sister posted on FB some weeks back: "If you're not feeding me, financing me, or f***ing me, your opinions don't matter." It's a family thing, I guess, I agree 101%....).

Yeah -- I did go on a ride, a 2-hour mini-epic with my kids; they napped out almost immediately upon returning home, I'm still chuggin'.......

DX-MAN

polishmadman just called me on 'hostility', when he wasn't getting any directed at him; YOU, on the other hand........ As far as my 'wit' goes, I'll quote John Cena, from back in the day when he was entertaining:

"Gotta tell you, homie -- it's not that you're not on my level. . .you're not on the level below me."

It's all situational -- sometimes those who disagree with me ARE wrong, other times it's just a difference of opinion, and I admit that when it's the case. The biggest point I was making here, on this thread, was that of "live and let live", let other people have the same right to self-determination that you expect, without you passing judgment. Golden Rule, dude; regardless of what you think of the source of that quote, it's hard to argue with.

acidfast7

I think that she needs to relax, as do most of you.

It was a warning on the bike. Which, I think is quite nice, rather than getting a direct fine.

I just got a failure to display my time parking clock in CPH, when I ran into the supermarket for some herring-in-mustard, and had a 590 DKK (100 USD) fine on the car when I came out. I ripped up the ticket because it's a private company and I'm interested to see if they're willing to do the legwork to track me down in Germany (German plates). I will say that the enforcement was taking pictures of every offending vehicle, so we'll see how this goes

I'm really surprised that the CBC (isn't this similar to ABC in the US) published this story ... are there no developments in the train derailment to discuss?

asmac

It's more like PBS with lots of ads and lots of hockey. And lots of treehuggers. They apparently needed filler amidst the flood, derailment and snake attack.

acidfast7

I hate public interest stories, which is why I like the German news.

rumrunn6

no reasonable effort made by the management to explain any policy in advance, that's poor form. threat to confiscate? I hate being threatened, that just burns me up. guess I still have some testosterone left, huh?