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Old 08-13-13, 12:55 PM   #226
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Yeah...no.
which is what I say to carbon wŁnderbikes.

Bikes are like the SO's in our life it's all a matter of preference.
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which is what I say to carbon wŁnderbikes.

Bikes are like the SO's in our life it's all a matter of preference.
Yeah, but comparing a carbon wŁnderbike to a bakfiets is like comparing a sports car to a wheel barrow. Some people don't like sports cars. That's fine. There are definitely times when the wheel barrow is useful. Some people might use one every day. But nobody ever looks at it and says "I gotta git me one of them."
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Yeah, but comparing a carbon wŁnderbike to a bakfiets is like comparing a sports car to a wheel barrow. Some people don't like sports cars. That's fine. There are definitely times when the wheel barrow is useful. Some people might use one every day. But nobody ever looks at it and says "I gotta git me one of them."
I've never said I gotta git me a carbon wŁnderbike either. I have said that I gotta git me a cargo bike though.
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I've never said I gotta git me a carbon wŁnderbike either.
No, but other people have.

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I have said that I gotta git me a cargo bike though.
Because of the way it looked?
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Yes we have..



This one is defiantly hot!!
If we're evaluating bikes for what they are, as per tjspiel's suggestion, then yeah, that's pretty hot. And I say that as someone who would far rather git a carbon wŁnderbike than any manner of utility bike.
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No, but other people have.
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Because of the way it looked?
Yes and the aura of coolness behind it!
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...and I'm pretty sure that means it was forged in underground factories, by dwarves using tools made from meteors!
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Must have been dark down there.



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So it's not just ugly, it's an ugly boat anchor.

The 80's gave us Huey Lewis and the News, but they also gave us the Dead Kennedys. Unfortunately, your graphics are more in line with the Huey Lewis part of the legacy. I mention this just because as a child of the 80's I'm offended to be associated with those graphics.




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Maybe not, but even if it did, no graphics can make up for having the front skewer on the wrong side.
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Cool that you put miles on it though. Bonus points for that.

It might be helpful to estimate how many miles posted bikes get in a year. I would be willing to forgive quite a bit for one that gets a thousand miles a year or better.
I didn't quite put a thousand miles on it while I was building up a proper commuter up. I didn't keep as close a log of my cycling activity at that time as I do now, but I rode it from early October until the end of January or early February. At about 180 miles a month minimum, I must have put about 750 miles on it, in the winter, in Seattle, with the original useless crap-level Li-Chi brakes!

When my mountain bike got stolen just before the summer, I resurrected the Sekai, putting the awesome (seriously! They're really great.) Nashbar cantilevers on it, tossing on a brand new Sun Rino Lyte wheel on the front that I wanted to put some break-in miles on and giving it a slightly better rear wheel than the one that came with it out of my junk pile. So I've put about 20 miles mountain biking in out since I partially rebuilt it, about 10 of those hard, fast, flowy downhill.


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That saddle might be hot if it were on another bike. As for the bike itself, umm... I'm sure that the good folks who sell cable housing like it.
The saddle is definitely hot. It's a Selle Anatomica Titanico X, that I paid a premium for in red to match another bike. Sadly, it's not working out with my Carradice quick release saddlebag support, so it is looking for a home. I actually really liked the saddle that was on the Sekai. It had a Sekai branded kinda of big comforty-type MTB saddle that had a pair of springs hidden under it. I had no issues at all with that saddle (or seatpost, which will be relevant below) riding it for months, about an hour each direction on my commute. Sadly, some lowlife nicked the saddle and seatpost while the bike was parked in my parking space under our apartment building, so I had to put something on it to ride it again. Luckily, in a spate of drunken midnight online ordering, I randomly bought a 25.4mm seatpost, assuming that was a size I needed for another bike. That seatpost sat in one of my spares boxes for nearly two years, every time I saw it while rummaging around for something else I shook my head and reaffirmed my new resolution not to buy anything in the middle of the night, sober or not!

When I first pulled the Sekai free from my nest of locked together hulks awaiting resurrection, I noticed the saddle and seatpost were missing, but assumed I had pulled them to keep anyone from stealing them, as bums keep stealing my bike covers (I assume for their waterproof properties and blackness for their camps), so I was worried about parts starting to disappear. I must have ransacked all my various boxes of bike parts three times before I came to the conclusion that, yes, some damn low-life had stolen the seatpost from the Mountaineer and worse, had stolen that saddle I really liked. Luckily, my drunken online mail-ordering mistake happened to provide me with just the part I needed! Which was great, because I didn't have any time left before the mountain biking trip to wait for one to be delivered!

Here's some proof that I commuted on it. This shot was actually from this morning. The previous shot upthread, in front of the orange lockers is from two years ago when I rode it for months, on a night I forgot my key to the cage. The past few days I was having a problem with my rear wheel on my commuter, and the Sekai is the only thing I've got close to running at the moment as a back-up, so I swapped out the knobby on the front for a big Michelin slick that came free to me along with a rear wheel I bought off Craigslist and swapped out the rear wheel for another from the junk pile that happened to already have a slick tire on it. I was hoping that this other wheel's cassette would mesh a little better than the other wheel I had on there, but no dice there. It did get me in to work.



I think this bike would actually look a lot better if it was set up for someone who it was the right size for and maybe didn't like as upright a stance as I do. I thought it was a 22" frame when I went to go pick it up from the Craigslist seller, but it is actually a 21" and I should probably, ideally have a 23" frame. Poor thing looks more ungainly than it should, set up the way I have it right now.

Anyone notice what's going on with that seatpost? It wasn't a laid-back seatpost when I bought it! I didn't have any issues with the seatpost that came with the bike, but when I replaced the stolen one with the cheap Sunlite one it wasn't up to the task. It did okay the first 5 miles of mountain biking or so. But it was definitely starting to bend from the pounding it took on the flowy downhill sections on my way back to the trailhead. I was hoping I could make it to work and back on it and spare my commuter any damage to its rear wheel, so I could get it to the shop. I definitely noticed it getting worse on the way in to work though!


In fact;



I only made it about halfway home before I gave up on it and put my bike on the bus for the last 3.5 miles of uphill. The seatpost was getting worse! It was getting too uncomfortable, too far back and putting a LOT of pressure on the part of your body you really don't want to do that to. I took a six pack of nice beer in with me to the shop and dropped off my commuter this morning, so I'll have it back in action later today or tomorrow, so I've got some time to try and track down a better quality seatpost! But for those of you keeping score at home, that puts me at having put in about 800 miles on this poor bike, 20 of them mountain biking!

Okay! No more Sekai Mountaineer pics, I promise!

Anyone need a laid-back 25.4mm seatpost?
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When even the seatpost is recoiling in horror that should put to rest any question of hotness.
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Is this to be the spirit of "Hot 'R Not" or the Commuting forum?

Have you visited the Road Forum "Hot 'R Not" thread? They offer no sympathy points for what "works for you." It's either hot or it isn't.

Now I can see where on the commuting forum we might take a different view. Perhaps anything that isn't functional is immediately "not" here. I'd buy that. I don't know about the converse though. If something is ugly, I'm not sure functionality excuses it.
I'm leaning more and more towards a totally arbitrary set of criteria. Keeps people on their toes.
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I know somebody on this forum has a hot commuter, but it seems the trend is to spam this thread with pictures of ugly bikes.

I'm a go with the flow kind of guy, so here's a picture of my first commuter.



Edit: I forgot to mention that I put around 2500 miles on this beast, including 4 trips down the mountain at Whistler Bike Park. This is also the bike I was riding the first time I was hit by a car.
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I know somebody on this forum has a hot commuter, but it seems the trend is to spam this thread with pictures of ugly bikes.

I'm a go with the flow kind of guy, so here's a picture of my first commuter.



Edit: I forgot to mention that I put around 2500 miles on this beast, including 4 trips down the mountain at Whistler Bike Park. This is also the bike I was riding the first time I was hit by a car.
The fender lines are better than on your LHT.
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The fender lines are better than on your LHT.
In my defense, this bike with 29x1.6 tires:



and this bike with 26x1.25 tires:



are using the same fenders. Notice how they match the curve of the wheel on the Muirwoods, but don't quite come halfway down the rear wheel. I always ended up with a PNW racing stripe using those things. I'm not sure what they're good for.

I recognize that I have some culpability here, but mainly I blame the manufacturers who refuse to make a decent fender for skinny 26" tires.
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much better

i think you've posted this before?
The first picture of the bike by the shelves has been posted, but I'm pretty sure that's a first for the graffiti shot.

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This one is defiantly hot!!
I agree!
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We always seem to be swapping parts around between bikes. I like mutts. Hot.
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as far as hot box bikes go ... I must present Nihola bikes ... handmade in Denmark. I've really taken a liking to them as they take up much less space than a traditional box bike from Christiania and one can place 100kg in the front (2-3 kids easily)



it seems that the newest trend in CPH is to "ride" around one's preggo wife in the front when the sun is out
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I'm a terrible judge because I just like most bikes so I like most of the bikes posted.

This is my current main ride, a Steve Bauer Sirocco (from late 80's or early 90's I think)


And this is my former, a bike shaped object bought from Canadian Tire in 2012.... going to sell it soon.
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I'm a terrible judge because I just like most bikes so I like most of the bikes posted.

This is my current main ride, a Steve Bauer Sirocco (from late 80's or early 90's I think)


And this is my former, a bike shaped object bought from Canadian Tire in 2012.... going to sell it soon.
The Bauer is pretty nice, but the saddle is ugly, and are those platform pedals? And without toe clips?
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I'm a terrible judge because I just like most bikes so I like most of the bikes posted.

This is my current main ride, a Steve Bauer Sirocco (from late 80's or early 90's I think)

I like the tires but let's face it, the finish on that bike has seen it's better days and it will take more than tires to make it hot.

Some of the bikes posted in this thread have been so ugly that you've got to give credit to the posters for having the nerve to even ride them. Unfortunately this bike doesn't fall into that category either.

Perhaps a story would help. For example, if the finish got tore up because you somehow saved an infant by riding up against a guardrail at 20 miles an hour that could sway me. I won't go so far as to say the story has got to be true since I have no way of verifying it anyway.

Also, while not trying to discourage you, I must say the photo itself just begs for a rating of not hot. Anybody can take an old bike and prop it up against a desk. Speaking from experience, you either need to have a bike the screams hotness or you've got to waste a good hour staging the photo in the vain hope that it will make a difference.

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Find at least 6 differences between these two pictures:



Is it getting warmer?
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Find at least 6 differences between these two pictures:

Is it getting warmer?
Seat angle, rear brake, different stem with new angle, some bulbous thing on the stem,different bar, decals off, water bottle cage, different place in the garden, the grass is cut..

No
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The Bauer is pretty nice, but the saddle is ugly, and are those platform pedals? And without toe clips?
Thanks, those were temporary pedals, now replaced with SPD/platform combo pedals (I don't always feel like wearing "special" shoes) but yes, the saddle is ugly... and comfortable... and cheap.

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Is it getting warmer?
You still need to cut the grass shorter. What is your mower set to?
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I like the tires but let's face it, the finish on that bike has seen it's better days and it will take more than tires to make it hot.

Some of the bikes posted in this thread have been so ugly that you've got to give credit to the posters for having the nerve to even ride them. Unfortunately this bike doesn't fall into that category either.

Perhaps a story would help. For example, if the finish got tore up because you somehow saved an infant by riding up against a guardrail at 20 miles an hour that could sway me. I won't go so far as to say the story has got to be true since I have no way of verifying it anyway.

Also, while not trying to discourage you, I must say the photo itself just begs for a rating of not hot. Anybody can take an old bike and prop it up against a desk. Speaking from experience, you either need to have a bike the screams hotness or you've got to waste a good hour staging the photo in the vain hope that it will make a difference.
Haha, noted

The finish is an "anti-theft feature" which looks worse because of a silly silver-flame stripe sticker. I'm sure the chips are likely from misuse, though infants may have been heroically saved by the original owner...

Maybe this picture will be better... though likely not.

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