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spare_wheel 08-20-13 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Germany_chris (Post 15981748)
So you are going to open it up, then I'll say food here is better. No I cannot get as good Mexican food here that would be the end. Asian food here is better not by a little bit, the African foods here are better not by just a little bit, and that doesn't eve speak of central Asia and the former Soviet satellites.

Beers in the states are variations on beers here on the continent. If there is a beer style your feel your missing when you come here then you're not looking hard enough. In one respect you are correct Germans tend to drink local, very local and it seems to span the generations. If I bring a Winkler Bräu home to Frankonia I'll be the only one who drinks it.


:blink:
You do realize there are about as many asians in the greater LA as in all of Germany.

Styles of beer that are pretty much unique to the states: Cascadian dark ale (CDA), India red ale (IRA, a new style!), and rye pale ales (RPAs). Its now possible to find a few APAs and ASAs (the USA's most well known styles) in europe but every one I've tasted has been mediocre, at best.

acidfast7 08-20-13 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by spare_wheel (Post 15981950)
:blink:
You do realize there are about as many asians in the greater LA as in all of Germany.

Styles of beer that are pretty much unique to the states: Cascadian dark ale (CDA), India red ale (IRA, a new style!), and rye pale ales (RPAs). Its now possible to find a few APAs and ASAs (the USA's most well known styles) in europe but every one I've tasted has been mediocre, at best.

:bleh:

trying too hard to be trendy.

as far as asians go, one of the largest populations of Japanese outside of Japan is in Düsseldorf, Germany. They have the best Okinomiyaki places outside of Japan. Cali is way overhyped. Should have sunk into the ocean by now.

Germany_chris 08-20-13 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by spare_wheel (Post 15981950)
:blink:
You do realize there are about as many asians in the greater LA as in all of Germany.

Styles of beer that are pretty much unique to the states: Cascadian dark ale (CDA), India red ale (IRA, a new style!), and rye pale ales (RPAs). Its now possible to find a few APAs and ASAs (the USA's most well known styles) in europe but every one I've tasted has been mediocre, at best.

You understand that more does not equal better and that's only Asians were talking about and of those Asians whats there ethnic breakout and how many per relation to non asians...there more to this then we got lots of um and they make good food. I like American pizza better than Italian pizza that doesn't make Italian pizza bad. I like pizza from Chicago better than NYC neither is bad because I like prefer the dough from Chicago

A CDA is a Dark IPA a derivative of an English beer

IRA another derivative of an IPA

Rye's of all sorts are bit hard to get ahold of in the north of Europe but not in Spain Greece and Turkey..

Like I said many posts ago US micro brews are great, I don't think they're "better" than here. I love Bell's and Founders in all they're varied seasonal varieties but I like them because they in many way symbolize my past.

acidfast7 08-20-13 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Germany_chris (Post 15982024)
You understand that more does not equal better and that's only Asians were talking about and of those Asians whats there ethnic breakout and how many per relation to non asians...there more to this then we got lots of um and they make good food. I like American pizza better than Italian pizza that doesn't make Italian pizza bad. I like pizza from Chicago better than NYC neither is bad because I like prefer the dough from Chicago

A CDA is a Dark IPA a derivative of an English beer

IRA another derivative of an IPA

Rye's of all sorts are bit hard to get ahold of in the north of Europe but not in Spain Greece and Turkey..

Like I said many posts ago US micro brews are great, I don't think they're "better" than here. I love Bell's and Founders in all they're varied seasonal varieties but I like them because they in many way symbolize my past.

As a rule, I never trust anyone that says "Asians." If they can't specifically break it down by country :(

spare_wheel 08-20-13 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by acidfast7 (Post 15981834)
i feel the same way about food. it's great that you have 5 thai places within walking distance. if it's not street food quality made correctly, i'm not interested.

there are dozens of thai restaurants within walking distance of my home.

here are a few of the best:

http://www.pokpokpdx.com/
2 restaurants (pok, pok and sen yai)
NYT review of the NYC outpost:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/27/di...nt-review.html


http://www.chiangmaipdx.com/
(Like eating at a very good restaurant in Chiang Mai, Thailand.)


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i am not interested in different beer. i don't want diversity, i want high quality.
variety is the spice of life...

acidfast7 08-20-13 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by spare_wheel (Post 15982046)
(Like eating at a very good restaurant in Chiang Mai, Thailand.)

no one goes to Chiang Mai, or Thailand for the matter anymore unless they're on a super budget trip or on their way to Burma.

it's great that you have a few restaurants, but they're all imported, which is what you're missing. bringing good food is OK, not having the culture that developed it is kinda sad.

mediocre variety is the not the spice of any sensible person's life.

edit: i don't hate PDX or the pacific northwest at all. by US standards it's quite interesting. however comparing it to a Munich (with it's beer history) or Stuttgart (with it's automotive prowess and current political strife) is kind of naïve, at best. those are two southern German examples similar in size to PDX.

Germany_chris 08-20-13 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by spare_wheel (Post 15982046)
there are dozens of thai restaurants within walking distance of my home.

variety is the spice of life...


This applies until you find what you like, try lots of crap when you've picked you poisons seek quality.

I like Ti bikes I've ridden many of them from different manufacturers my next one will be bespoke.

spare_wheel 08-20-13 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Germany_chris (Post 15982024)
You understand that more does not equal better and that's only Asians were talking about and of those Asians whats there ethnic breakout and how many per relation to non asians...there more to this then we got lots of um and they make good food.

i hate to pop your bubble, but germany is no culinary mecca. if i had to rate the best place to eat in europe right now, i would pick london.


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a derivative of an English beer
except that they use different malts, different yeasts, and different hops.

Germany_chris 08-20-13 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by spare_wheel (Post 15982142)
i hate to pop your bubble, but germany is no culinary mecca. if i had to rate the best place to eat in europe right now, i would pick london.



except that they use different malts, different yeasts, and different hops.


With a 40% non German population in Stuttgart it's far more diverse than you give it credit for and I've yet to meet a Londoner or Brit in general that doesn't like German sweets.

All derivitives use a bit different stuff than the original hence the derivative, you won't find two weizen's, keller biers, or pils that use the same hops malts and yeasts. Beer here varies town to town let alone region to region. What you will find is though is standards ~2000 years of brewing beer will give you that.

spare_wheel 08-20-13 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by acidfast7 (Post 15982053)
bringing good food is OK, not having the culture that developed it is kinda sad.

yes...its sad that singapore, hong kong, and tokyo did not have the "culture" to develop all of the food they have imported and intermingled.
:rolleyes:

acidfast7 08-20-13 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by spare_wheel (Post 15982142)
i would pick london.

which is hilarious and exactly my point.

London, and the UK, has almost no native cuisine, even less than Germany, and yet, you select London, it's all imported again like PDX.

why the hell would I go to a Tapas place in London when I go to southern Spain? Why would I eat Indian/Pakistani in London, when a Frankfurt to London flight costs as much as a Frankfurt to Mumbai flight?

seriously? bringing up London is one of the worst choices for authentic food. might as well fly to Munich/Stuttgart rent a BMW/Audi (or take a 200mph train, if that's your thing) over the Alps and eat your way through the Dolomites and into Toscana.

London ...

:lol:

acidfast7 08-20-13 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by spare_wheel (Post 15982176)
yes...its sad that singapore, hong kong, and tokyo did not have the "culture" to develop all of the food they have imported and intermingled.
:rolleyes:

Tokyo was the most diverse "city" I have been to in years.

Every sub-street had authentic food. If you hang in tourist areas, sure, you have all kinds of crap.

Hang out in the small streets where you get local food. Even better, do a "home stay" which is what we always do while traveling.

Singapore is very synthetic and not so impressive in my opinion ... honestly, what cuisine is Singapore known for? And, is it different than what you'd get in KL?

Sorry man, but you need to travel (correctly) more often.

DVC45 08-20-13 06:13 PM

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/a...5/IMAG0249.jpg

megalowmatt 08-20-13 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Germany_chris (Post 15979831)
This thread hasn't been on track in a long while so whats the big deal?

The big deal is acidfast has a history of pulling this kind of thing. It gets old.

Medic Zero 08-20-13 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by acidfast7 (Post 15981890)
seriously, that thing is working way too hard to be cool

just be cool ... don't work so hard.

and grab some break at the nice, albeit slightly commercial/trendy, bakery next to my CPH flat.

cool is a state of mind, not a successful attempt at "coolness"

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps1c11658f.jpg

The problem is in your perception. I don't see someone trying to be cool with the zebra bike, I see someone trying to bring a little whimsy to the world and put a smile on people's faces.

But you are so hide-bound and so very enamored with Germany, I'm not surprised at your view. You're wrong though. If it were a spare, unadorned fixie, then you'd be right, that's someone trying to be cool.

Medic Zero 08-20-13 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by megalowmatt (Post 15982366)
The big deal is acidfast has a history of pulling this kind of thing. It gets old.

+1 !


Enough with the "my beer is better than yours" "my city/country is better than yours crap"! :rolleyes: :troll:

This is the hot or not BICYCLE thread in the COMMUTING sub-forum. :notamused:

Medic Zero 08-20-13 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DVC45 (Post 15982365)

I like it! Not real keen on the brown portion, but for the Commuter Hot or Not thread, I'd say this is hot. This is clearly a bike that is being used, and outfitted to do so.

Bonus points for framing the shot interestingly too.

groovestew 08-20-13 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DVC45 (Post 15982365)

This bike seems really...noisy, like a rolling cacophony. It bothers me. And please turn off the date stamp feature of your camera, if you haven't already.

Simpletommy 08-20-13 08:06 PM

This bike is wonderfully ugly. The fork doesn't match the frame, the water bottle is the most hi-viz part of the bike, it doesn't have a rack but a seat post trunk bag that I kind of take as a big "f-you" to the people who hated the first bike posted in this thread with the "penis" hanging off it's seat post.

The bike is used well, and everything about it is functional.

The bike is hot.
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Originally Posted by DVC45 (Post 15982365)


Erwin8r 08-20-13 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Medic Zero (Post 15982452)
+1 !


Enough with the "my beer is better than yours" "my city/country is better than yours crap"! :rolleyes: :troll:

This is the hot or not BICYCLE thread in the COMMUTING sub-forum. :notamused:

Seriously. We get it. You love Germany. Now lets get on with Hot or Not...

bigbenaugust 08-20-13 08:14 PM

I like the contrast between the classic Brooks and the disc brakes.

Erwin8r 08-20-13 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DVC45 (Post 15982365)

Can I imagine myself riding this in to work? Yup. Hot!

Mansram01 08-20-13 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Erwin8r (Post 15982717)
Seriously. We get it. You love Germany. Now lets get on with Hot or Not...

I can get it all in Los Angeles including German.. ;)

the sci guy 08-20-13 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DVC45 (Post 15982365)

i dislike the compact frame / sloping top tube on bikes (any bike). and I highly dislike seatpost racks. Not loving the brown, but the rest of the color scheme is nice. i don't like fenders, but yours look less overbearing so i don't mind here.
overall - i'd say midway between hot and not. so...lukewarm?
thanks for contributing!

spare_wheel 08-20-13 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by groovestew (Post 15982695)
This bike seems really...noisy, like a rolling cacophony. It bothers me. And please turn off the date stamp feature of your camera, if you haven't already.

great parody of the original hot or not thread.


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