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Andy_K 08-08-13 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by groovestew (Post 15938889)

Definitely hot! Well staged. Nice lock placement.

groovestew 08-08-13 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Germany_chris (Post 15939445)
Whats the 41?

At time my smarta$$ comments border on snide when they do call me out. I generally mean no harm but usually I'm pointing out something that irk's me.. to call it fair I'll post up all my rides right now. By this time next week I'll have added a couple mountain bikes..

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=333587http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=333588http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=333590

"The 41" is the Road Bike forum. The Commuting forum could be called the 20. Look at the URL when you click on the forum.

Anyway, your bikes are all Hot in their own way. I'm trying to come up with a smarta$$ criticism, but find myself more jealous than anything!

Andy_K 08-08-13 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Germany_chris (Post 15939445)
Whats the 41?

It's the Road Cycling forum. Those guys are, shall we say, a bit detached from reality. Sometimes it's fun.

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Originally Posted by Germany_chris (Post 15939445)
At time my smarta$$ comments border on snide when they do call me out. I generally mean no harm but usually I'm pointing out something that irk's me..

I didn't start this thread, so it may be a bit presumptuous of me to say so, but I find comments of that nature to be critical to the success of a thread like this. If people start taking themselves seriously it ruins everything. tjspiel set a great tone with his opening bike.

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Originally Posted by Germany_chris (Post 15939445)
to call it fair I'll post up all my rides right now. By this time next week I'll have added a couple mountain bikes..

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=333587http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=333588http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=333590

I'm going to say two nots and a hot here, though I'm not entirely decided which is which.

The angle of all of the saddles bugs me.

I've got to knock points off the Earl because of the road pedals on a CX bike. I also don't like the minimalist bar tape. The stickers and top tube tape give it a sort of street appeal, but the Brooks saddle works against that. The bend of the seat post also seems vaguely wrong.

The Colnago is nice, but it's got too much saddle to bar drop for my tastes. Also, the wheels appear to be the wrong vintage for the rest of the components (with the possible exception of the shifters). The stem is too long, and I don't like the red bar tape. The seat post seems wrong for that frame and the saddle looks like it could break off at any moment. That frame is definitely hot.

The Serotta's nice, probably my favorite of the bunch. You lose points for the NDS picture. Again, the stem is too long and I don't like the bar tape. The little splashes of red are a nice touch. The front fender is too short. And is that a seat bag of do you just have a tube strapped to your saddle?

groovestew 08-08-13 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tjspiel (Post 15939383)
It appears to be a MTB->drop bar conversion and as such is almost "HOT" purely for the effort involved.

Full disclosure...the "effort involved" was Sixty Fiver's. I'm not good at wrenching my own bikes.

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Originally Posted by tjspiel (Post 15939383)
Not sure what is going on with the seat tube. There appears to be a rear reflector and something else...

Light mount.

Andy_K 08-08-13 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by groovestew (Post 15939556)
Full disclosure...the "effort involved" was Sixty Fiver's.

No wonder it's hot. I don't think I've seen a Sixty Fiver bike I didn't like.

Germany_chris 08-08-13 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 15939549)
It's the Road Cycling forum. Those guys are, shall we say, a bit detached from reality. Sometimes it's fun.



I didn't start this thread, so it may be a bit presumptuous of me to say so, but I find comments of that nature to be critical to the success of a thread like this. If people start taking themselves seriously it ruins everything. tjspiel set a great tone with his opening bike.



I'm going to say two nots and a hot here, though I'm not entirely decided which is which.

The angle of all of the saddles bugs me.

I've got to knock points off the Earl because of the road pedals on a CX bike. I also don't like the minimalist bar tape. The stickers and top tube tape give it a sort of street appeal, but the Brooks saddle works against that. The bend of the seat post also seems vaguely wrong.

The Colnago is nice, but it's got too much saddle to bar drop for my tastes. Also, the wheels appear to be the wrong vintage for the rest of the components (with the possible exception of the shifters). The stem is too long, and I don't like the red bar tape. The seat post seems wrong for that frame and the saddle looks like it could break off at any moment. That frame is definitely hot.

The Serotta's nice, probably my favorite of the bunch. You lose points for the NDS picture. Again, the stem is too long and I don't like the bar tape. The little splashes of red are a nice touch. The front fender is too short. And is that a seat bag of do you just have a tube strapped to your saddle?

The Earl is not a CX bike if you'll look it has long reach caliper brakes, the bar tape is Brooks, there are no stickers on the toptubes that's 550 cord the seat post is a Moots it's definitely "all right"

Every component on the Colnago is the wrong vintage, notice the decidedly non-Colnago paint? That's because it had it powdered flat black. Italian bikes particularly Colnagos are built around a long stem look at pic's of Colnagos on the net you'll see.

The Serotta has brooks bar tape not minimalist, my excuse for the NDS is I was at a biergarten, and I ride tubulars and that is a tire. The stem is actually only 120 so thats a camera angle thing and the fenders are a nice belgian set that will fit in the Ouzo, but yes they could be markedly longer thy don't keep your toes dry but they do keep that water out of your face.

**edit** Brooks saddles always end up nose up it just sorta is.

Germany_chris 08-08-13 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by groovestew (Post 15939542)
"The 41" is the Road Bike forum. The Commuting forum could be called the 20. Look at the URL when you click on the forum.

Anyway, your bikes are all Hot in their own way. I'm trying to come up with a smarta$$ criticism, but find myself more jealous than anything!

TY,

Much thought and searching went into them, it stupid hard to find a threadless Precisa fork for a price that doesn't make you cry.

megalowmatt 08-08-13 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 15939392)
Are you sure?



See. We can do it.

FWIW, the ridiculous comments are one of my favorite things about the 41. I just have to tell myself they aren't serious.

If this thread is going to be successful we need to be at least as harsh as the people on the 41. I expect we'll have different, sometimes opposite, standards (for instance, I'd definitely deduct points for a slammed stem), but the tone ought to be about the same...maybe without the people who get bent out of shape to hear that their bike isn't hot.

I agree! If anyone's not familiar with how it works, mosey on over to the Hot r Not thread in the road forum. *A lot* of the shot has to do with the staging - drive side only, valve stems positioned evenly, not too busy of a background, quality of photo, etc. Don't just lean it up against any old thing or stand 30 feet back and take a random shot. Some luke warms can be saved with a great picture. It can be a fun thread but people shouldn't get their feelings hurt with the comments. It inevitably happens, though.

I originally posted one of my commuters knowing I would get ribbed over that seat post rack...it's OK! I even agree and it's all in the fun of it.

megalowmatt 08-08-13 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Germany_chris (Post 15939445)
Whats the 41?

At time my smarta$$ comments border on snide when they do call me out. I generally mean no harm but usually I'm pointing out something that irk's me.. to call it fair I'll post up all my rides right now. By this time next week I'll have added a couple mountain bikes..

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=333590

Better staging, a drive side shot and level saddle would make that one a hot for me. :)

Andy_K 08-08-13 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Germany_chris (Post 15939630)
my excuse for the NDS is I was at a biergarten.

In that case, bonus points. :thumb:

Otherwise, I guess my tastes are too provincial for your bikes. The fact that I like groovestew's Raleigh better than your Colnago probably indicates the value or lack thereof of my opinion. ;)

Germany_chris 08-08-13 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 15939700)
In that case, bonus points. :thumb:

Otherwise, I guess my tastes are too provincial for your bikes. The fact that I like groovestew's Raleigh better than your Colnago probably indicates the value or lack thereof of my opinion. ;)

The 'nago is what it is..it was pretty rough when I got it..

I agree though the only taste you have is in your mouth :p

Andy_K 08-08-13 01:20 PM

OK. Here's my first entry.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8544/8...df3b40f9_c.jpg

Germany_chris 08-08-13 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 15939868)

Fender line? learn it, live it, love it.

Andy_K 08-08-13 01:24 PM

Yeah, the thing is it's really hard to find good fenders for skinny-ish 26 inch tires. I definitely agree though, the fenders on this bike are ugly.

groovestew 08-08-13 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 15939868)

*sigh* another LHT with a mile of steerer tube spacers. So close (to hot), yet so far.

(I'll cut you some slack on the fender line...I had the same problem on my trucker.)

Germany_chris 08-08-13 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 15939885)
Yeah, the thing is it's really hard to find good fenders for skinny-ish 26 inch tires. I definitely agree though, the fenders on this bike are ugly.


it takes 10 seconds to fix..spacers (washer/small socket) and a longer bolt from chain stay to fender. Lock the bottom riser on the front them pull up on riser two will push the front down and give you a real fender line..it's not hard you just gotta try.

groovestew 08-08-13 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Germany_chris (Post 15939940)
it takes 10 seconds to fix..spacers (washer/small socket) and a longer bolt from chain stay to fender. Lock the bottom riser on the front them pull up on riser two will puch the front and give you a real fender line..it's not hard you just gotta try.

:lol: You gotta love the 20. We can't be critical without also providing helpful advice!

Germany_chris 08-08-13 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by groovestew (Post 15939957)
:lol: You gotta love the 20. We can't be critical without also providing helpful advice!

I can't help it, it's in my nature I just can't let folks fail :(:):thumb:

Andy_K 08-08-13 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Germany_chris (Post 15939940)
it takes 10 seconds to fix..spacers (washer/small socket) and a longer bolt from chain stay to fender. Lock the bottom riser on the front them pull up on riser two will push the front down and give you a real fender line..it's not hard you just gotta try.

My fenders are SKS P50, which they used to claim worked with either 26" or 700c tires. In my experience they have problems with either one. The curve doesn't match the tire. I could probably get it a bit closer.

tjspiel 08-08-13 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by megalowmatt (Post 15939686)
*A lot* of the shot has to do with the staging - drive side only, valve stems positioned evenly, not too busy of a background, quality of photo, etc. Don't just lean it up against any old thing or stand 30 feet back and take a random shot. Some luke warms can be saved with a great picture.

We're going to put that theory to the test. Original bike. New staging. What say you?

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...psac337fe3.jpg

Germany_chris 08-08-13 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 15940081)
My fenders are SKS P50, which they used to claim worked with either 26" or 700c tires. In my experience they have problems with either one. The curve doesn't match the tire. I could probably get it a bit closer.

yes in about 5 minutes, you have lazy man fenders right now.

Germany_chris 08-08-13 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tjspiel (Post 15940085)
We're going to put that theory to the test. Original bike. New staging. What say you?

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...psac337fe3.jpg

On that style bike the angle of the stem and the bars should match..

The green wheel's gotta go

the Vetta is too far forward, if you need it that far forward to fit use a zero setback post while ugly in their own right it won't be noticeable with the limp rucksack you have under the saddle.

kaliayev 08-08-13 02:24 PM

The exposed brick walls and wood floors are smoking!

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Originally Posted by tjspiel (Post 15940085)
We're going to put that theory to the test. Original bike. New staging. What say you?

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...psac337fe3.jpg


tjspiel 08-08-13 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Germany_chris (Post 15940136)
On that style bike the angle of the stem and the bars should match..

The green wheel's gotta go

Sorry the wheel is integral to the look. If you've ever seen the movie The "Big Lebowski", I believe the expression: "it ties the room together" is appropriate in this case. Besides it's the only fixed gear wheel I have and it was free.

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Originally Posted by Germany_chris (Post 15940136)
the Vetta is too far forward, if you need it that far forward to fit use a zero setback post while ugly in their own right it won't be noticeable with the limp rucksack you have under the saddle.

I will give you this one and also add that so far it's my favorite critique of the whole thread. :thumb:

And just a warning to the rest of you. I'm going to keep posting pictures of this bike until I get a consensus rating of "Hot"

Medic Zero 08-08-13 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by groovestew (Post 15938889)
Here's one from the archives...this bike is no longer among the living. Do your worst, people.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9...o/raleigh3.jpg

Seriously? That's about as hot as it comes! :thumb:


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