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    Attaching bike to bus..

    I did a search, couldn't find anything so here goes..

    I just have a 10 miles riding one way commute.. The rest of it, I used the subway.. I have never used that attaching the bike to the front of a bus before.. However, places I want to go, much further away, can be reached by using the bus, and the front racks.. Didn't want to try it with my sweet bikes that I commute on, so on Sunday, I took my #2 beater out for some trial runs on the front of the bus. I am no techie, my wife is.. With that said, I was leary. However, that is what my beater bike is for.. Hookup was two moves.. Nice.. I sat right up front to try to detect any looseness in the rack. The bike was solidly in place.. I did that about 5 to 6 times yesterday and all went well. This morning for my commute, although weather was clear and warm, I grabbed the #2 beater bike again. Took a bus ride when I didn't have to just going through the moves. Again, piece of cake..

    Now, am I ready to chance my good bikes on the bus rig?? First, I have heard about theives snatching bikes off of buses, so I am going to stay with the beaters for a while on the buses. See how that goes..
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    I would recommend a ring lock on the rear-wheel if you're concerned about someone yanking off the bike and riding away.
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    +1 to the ring lock. No way would I put a pedal-away bike on a bus rack.

    My trick is clipless pedals and pulling out the seat. No one steals a bike with no seat or pedals. But, i usually don't ride the bus, just when I need to go somewhere unusually far and way off the beaten (safe biking) path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baron von trail View Post
    +1 to the ring lock. No way would I put a pedal-away bike on a bus rack.

    My trick is clipless pedals and pulling out the seat. No one steals a bike with no seat or pedals. But, i usually don't ride the bus, just when I need to go somewhere unusually far and way off the beaten (safe biking) path.
    the taxis here have bike racks on the them and a ring lock is quite useful in these situtaions as well
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    I am a techie. The first time I tried the bus rack it took me just four seconds to figure out the mechanism. This was long enough to earn a dirty look from the driver. The passengers would probably not let me board if they saw me pull out a ring lock because that would probably take at least another second to deploy. YMMV, but KISS rules here in the PNW. Oregon is a concealed carry state. No one is going to try and run off with your bike with you sitting just feet away, even if behind glass. Lets get real. Just the same I take the folder now when I have a bus leg in mind. Frees up a space on the rack (only holds two) and those spots are prime I tell you. Very much in demand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leisesturm View Post
    I am a techie. The first time I tried the bus rack it took me just four seconds to figure out the mechanism. This was long enough to earn a dirty look from the driver. The passengers would probably not let me board if they saw me pull out a ring lock because that would probably take at least another second to deploy. YMMV, but KISS rules here in the PNW. Oregon is a concealed carry state. No one is going to try and run off with your bike with you sitting just feet away, even if behind glass. Lets get real. Just the same I take the folder now when I have a bus leg in mind. Frees up a space on the rack (only holds two) and those spots are prime I tell you. Very much in demand.

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    lol at the "being a techie" comment.

    a ring lock is attached the bike frame and is locked with a key while you wait and before you load the bike onto the bus/taxi.

    no need to "pull one out."

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    and if you want to use a lock you "pull out" to guard against someone riding off on your bike you can U-lock wheel to frame before the bus gets there.

    If there are at least 3 people besides you waiting to take the bus there's probably enough time for you to even lock it after putting it on the rack and board without making the bus wait on you. Way better to lock before bus arrival, though.
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    Ring lock just keeps the rear wheel from rolling... you can have it locked while waiting for the bus,

    Lift the bike onto the rack and and set down the spring hold-down on top of the front wheel ..

    it will keep someone else from rolling the bike if they grab it at a stop ,

    but not prevent them from removing it from the front of the bus..


    I have an elastic cord on my ringlock key.. it goes on my wrist , when I lock the bike..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post


    I have an elastic cord on my ringlock key.. it goes on my wrist , when I lock the bike..
    But then they'll chop your hand off to get the key, just like in the movies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    Not in this town , the money is made out in Boats , catching Fish.
    I doubt that anyone would actually steal a bike off a bus. Also, the tangental discussion about "concealed carry" is, how do I put it nicely ... disturbing.
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    There was a thread about Others, grabbing their bike off the front of the bus and running off with it, Last year,


    The scene was one of the Big East Coast US cities without enough jobs , and so theft was an income source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leisesturm View Post
    No one is going to try and run off with your bike with you sitting just feet away, even if behind glass. Lets get real.
    From Bikeportland.org:

    I asked TriMet's bike guy Colin Maher about this. He confirmed that yes, theft from bus bike racks does happen, "So be vigilant," he says.
    Maher also offered a bit more advice on the subject:
    "My advice is to sit close to the front of the bus, keep an eye on it, exit the front door and tell the operator you have a bike on the front. This way the bus doesn't leave with your bike still on the rack, which happens much more frequently than theft."
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    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    There was a thread about Others, grabbing their bike off the front of the bus and running off with it, Last year,


    The scene was one of the Big East Coast US cities without enough jobs , and so theft was an income source.
    Even a $1000 bike can only bring 300-400 used on the black market. That's a lot of bikes to steal to survive.

    Eastern European gangs steal whole racks of bikes here. They remove racks from the ground and load the whole thing into a moving van and onto a ferry bound for Riga or Lithuania ... but it's quite cheap to live there ... not so much in the DC/Atlanta area (IIRC that's where it was happening).
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    Perhaps that was the OP's fear .. cannot speak for him ..


    Crack/crank users shoplift to get $ for more . it's really not about paying the Rent. (etc)

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    Looks like it is quite easy to steal a bike from the front rack
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    I had never considered theft of bikes from bus racks before, but I'd stick with using a beater anyway because, like any rack, if anyone else put theirs on it, they're not as likely to be careful about banging into yours as you would be.
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    When I use the bus, I strap my bike to the rack with a bungee like this:
    Photo0011.jpg


    Only a few of the racks here are like the those in the video above. I have encountered a couple that were loose, so the bungee augments the rack mechanism.
    I read the article about bikes being snatched from buses. If I remember the story correctly, it was teams of two. When the bus stopped at a corner, the thieves would run out from the sidewalk. One releases the rack mechanism while the other snatched the bike.
    While the bungee wouldn't prevent this entirely, it does provide an unexpected, extra step to the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leisesturm View Post
    I am a techie. The first time I tried the bus rack it took me just four seconds to figure out the mechanism. This was long enough to earn a dirty look from the driver. The passengers would probably not let me board if they saw me pull out a ring lock because that would probably take at least another second to deploy. YMMV, but KISS rules here in the PNW. Oregon is a concealed carry state. No one is going to try and run off with your bike with you sitting just feet away, even if behind glass. Lets get real. Just the same I take the folder now when I have a bus leg in mind. Frees up a space on the rack (only holds two) and those spots are prime I tell you. Very much in demand.

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    Thanks for all the responses. Ring lock will complete this.. As far as nobody is going to run off with bikes. .Shucks, I am 73, and nothing would suprise me.. In addition, I am slightly parinoid when it comes to allowing people to steal from me.. So, I try to go on the side of caution. Just like my bikes never get locked up outside, unless I am eyeballing. The only time I will lock a bike up without eyesight, it will be one of my beater bikes.. I have had one bike stolen, it was recovered the next day, and one attempted theft. That was averted because the bike was locked, but I WAS EYEBALLING it too. The thief pulled out the snippers and by the time he was about to close the snippers to snap the chain, here comes a no-can-fight-135lbs-of screaming madness.. The thief took off.. bike saved.. If you travel through some tough areas, there is a good chance somebody will try it. It all depends the area..

    Ring lock... Thanks all..
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    Quote Originally Posted by himespau View Post
    I had never considered theft of bikes from bus racks before, but I'd stick with using a beater anyway because, like any rack, if anyone else put theirs on it, they're not as likely to be careful about banging into yours as you would be.
    On the theft of bikes from the rack, same here. But, I have read lots of stories where this has happened.. I am with you on using the beaters too. I am fortunate to have two beaters that have a super, duper ride. My #2 looks like a rusted pit. Also, I am with you on not wanting any other bikes banging into mine... It is going to be beaters for a couple weeks. Ring lock even with them, then I might do a trial run with one of my nice bikes. However, no nice bike going through tough neighborhoods, no way...
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    I had a Giant New Century come flying off a Bus in Dallas.The arms are losing strength.The only damage were scratched seat,pedal,grip, and the plastic connecter broke on one fender.I have used a velcro strap on the front wheel since.

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    Standard Sportsworks-type rack? Video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acidfast7 View Post
    I doubt that anyone would actually steal a bike off a bus. Also, the tangental discussion about "concealed carry" is, how do I put it nicely ... disturbing.
    Be at peace. I am a card carrying Liberal Pacifist I would never shoot someone even if they were stealing my ride. I only mentioned CC because it is frequently cited as the reason there is so much Law and Order in the public spaces of the Pacific Northwest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leisesturm View Post
    Be at peace. I am a card carrying Liberal Pacifist I would never shoot someone even if they were stealing my ride. I only mentioned CC because it is frequently cited as the reason there is so much Law and Order in the public spaces of the Pacific Northwest.

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    really? that's one of the few places in the US that i haven't spent a lot of time. i assume that most *** action was localized to the south.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justme23 View Post
    I had a Giant New Century come flying off a Bus in Dallas.
    Dallas (DART) is replacing their fleet of eleven to fifteen year-old NovaBUSes with 459 new North American Bus Industries LFWs. Be advised that if a NovaBUS rolls up to your stop, DART has basically quit doing maintenance on the old fleet and some of them are getting pretty long in the tooth.
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