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After some hard re-thinking...and re-reading this thread...I had made the assumption that the OP was referring to ultimate commuter bike as this is the Commuting Forum.
Not an ideal replacement for all my bikes, but I could make it work.
My 2009 Specialized Globe San Francisco 2
With the following modifications:
NuVinci N360 rear hub
Gates Carbon Belt drive (frame has split stays to accommodate)
Dynamo front hub/ head & tail lights
Trekking/Butterfly/Jones handlebars
Full fenders / front & rear racks
Added Seasonal tires: Continental Top Contact 26 (spring/fall)
Schwalbe Ice Spiker 26 (winter)
Gotta save my pennies...LOL
Not an ideal replacement for all my bikes, but I could make it work.
My 2009 Specialized Globe San Francisco 2
With the following modifications:
NuVinci N360 rear hub
Gates Carbon Belt drive (frame has split stays to accommodate)
Dynamo front hub/ head & tail lights
Trekking/Butterfly/Jones handlebars
Full fenders / front & rear racks
Added Seasonal tires: Continental Top Contact 26 (spring/fall)
Schwalbe Ice Spiker 26 (winter)
Gotta save my pennies...LOL
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Yes...that was me.
Problem has been solved with Axiom Odyssee rack (clamps to seat tubes), on its way.
*Further investigation of the internal threaded split stay bolt reveals 3/16" of M5 thread (more than most eyelets & in hardened steel); sufficient to secure fender braces and the rack (with a spacer to clear caliper) if desired.
O-stand front rack will attach to fork crown hole (along with fender mount) and to mid fork eyelets. Eyelets on fork drop outs for fender braces.
Planet Bike fenders have been ordered as well.
Problem has been solved with Axiom Odyssee rack (clamps to seat tubes), on its way.
*Further investigation of the internal threaded split stay bolt reveals 3/16" of M5 thread (more than most eyelets & in hardened steel); sufficient to secure fender braces and the rack (with a spacer to clear caliper) if desired.
O-stand front rack will attach to fork crown hole (along with fender mount) and to mid fork eyelets. Eyelets on fork drop outs for fender braces.
Planet Bike fenders have been ordered as well.
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I'm learning a lot from your responses. For example I did not know that you need a split stay for the Gates belt. Thought that would limit a lot of bikes, but now that I see how it's done maybe not such a big deal. Also, it looks like it would work with an Alphine and no need for the Rohloff. My guess is that Seven would easily split the rear stay as I have seen a bike on their website with a Gates belt.
Any other bikes that have straight top tubes, steel or titanium, that you guys know about and that already has the split? Doesn't have to be disc.
EDIT: Just went out and thoroughly cleaned the Vaya and too the fenders off. Not sure why, but changing the bike around and cleaning always makes me fall back in love! Bummer that I cannot ride in to work tomorrow since I have an out of town meeting (and no transit option).
Still ogling over the Seven with IGH and Gates Drive.
Any other bikes that have straight top tubes, steel or titanium, that you guys know about and that already has the split? Doesn't have to be disc.
EDIT: Just went out and thoroughly cleaned the Vaya and too the fenders off. Not sure why, but changing the bike around and cleaning always makes me fall back in love! Bummer that I cannot ride in to work tomorrow since I have an out of town meeting (and no transit option).
Still ogling over the Seven with IGH and Gates Drive.
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A titanium Cross Check, and, oh, please keep the rim brakes, no go on the disc things. Thanks.
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My Surly Long Haul Trucker has made an excellent commuting bike, but with benefit of hindsight, I definitely would probably go with a Troll or a Salsa Vaya next time. The LHT is a dream on paved roads, but terrible off road.
Of course I'd love that Seven Four Season, but unless I hit the lottery, I'm not going to spend more on a bike than a car.
Of course I'd love that Seven Four Season, but unless I hit the lottery, I'm not going to spend more on a bike than a car.
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My ultimate bike would certainly have an IGH after using one for a year now on my Windsor. I absolutely love the Shimano Nexus 8-Speed.
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This would pretty much be it for me. The only things I would change is to use a Di2 Alfine 11 with the new hydraulic drop levers.
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This would pretty much be it for me. The only things I would change is to use a Di2 Alfine 11 with the new hydraulic drop levers.
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I ride a full suspension Trek Rumblefish for commuting. I don't understand why more folks don't think full suspension is a good commuter. I have done 1200 miles two years ago, 1600 miles last year and am shooting for 2000 miles this year, I'm at 1300 so far.
i have Serfas 2.1" smooth tires now, I have some 700 x 38 on order.
Oh and this is my first post....
i have Serfas 2.1" smooth tires now, I have some 700 x 38 on order.
Oh and this is my first post....
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Welcome to Bike Forum. You've put some serious mileage on your bike.
I think the issue with suspension for most commuters is additional weight. Everyone has different preferences, road/traffic/weather conditions and distances to cover. The common bond is that we are all cyclists and enjoy the ride.
I think the issue with suspension for most commuters is additional weight. Everyone has different preferences, road/traffic/weather conditions and distances to cover. The common bond is that we are all cyclists and enjoy the ride.
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The ultimate bike depends on the use. If I'm commuting mostly road, this one is pretty close
Aluminum/Scandium frame, Phil Wood hubs, King headset, Brooks Pro saddle, Ultegra shifter, 105 triple crank with a 9 speed 11-34 cassette. I actually use the bike for most of my riding that is not commuting related. The racer dudes struggling up the Colorado Monument ride last fall were very envious of my gears on the switchbacks.
If I'm going to do some mountain biking on the way to work I ride either of these
The red one is my winter commuter most of the time.
If I want to go over the mountain behind work I'll occasionally commute on this one
And if I want style points, this is the ultimate bike
Philll isn't a steel framed boat anchor either. He's got an aluminum frame and is capable of street racing with the best of them. A roadie tried and even at 24 mph, I stayed out in front of him. Hacked out a spleen but I stayed in front of the racer dude
Aluminum/Scandium frame, Phil Wood hubs, King headset, Brooks Pro saddle, Ultegra shifter, 105 triple crank with a 9 speed 11-34 cassette. I actually use the bike for most of my riding that is not commuting related. The racer dudes struggling up the Colorado Monument ride last fall were very envious of my gears on the switchbacks.
If I'm going to do some mountain biking on the way to work I ride either of these
The red one is my winter commuter most of the time.
If I want to go over the mountain behind work I'll occasionally commute on this one
And if I want style points, this is the ultimate bike
Philll isn't a steel framed boat anchor either. He's got an aluminum frame and is capable of street racing with the best of them. A roadie tried and even at 24 mph, I stayed out in front of him. Hacked out a spleen but I stayed in front of the racer dude
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Nice collection cycco! It must be pretty sweet when all of your bikes are ultimate bikes!
What Salsa frame is that? I can't read from your pic.
Does the Moots have like 1" of travel in the back there, or am I just seeing a clamp on a wishbone hardtail?
What is that seat you have on all three MTB?
And what is that last thing?! That looks really *****in, like a repurposed beach cruiser or something.
What Salsa frame is that? I can't read from your pic.
Does the Moots have like 1" of travel in the back there, or am I just seeing a clamp on a wishbone hardtail?
What is that seat you have on all three MTB?
And what is that last thing?! That looks really *****in, like a repurposed beach cruiser or something.
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Nice collection cycco! It must be pretty sweet when all of your bikes are ultimate bikes!
What Salsa frame is that? I can't read from your pic.
Does the Moots have like 1" of travel in the back there, or am I just seeing a clamp on a wishbone hardtail?
What is that seat you have on all three MTB?
And what is that last thing?! That looks really *****in, like a repurposed beach cruiser or something.
What Salsa frame is that? I can't read from your pic.
Does the Moots have like 1" of travel in the back there, or am I just seeing a clamp on a wishbone hardtail?
What is that seat you have on all three MTB?
And what is that last thing?! That looks really *****in, like a repurposed beach cruiser or something.
The Moots is a 1998 YBBeat. That is an elastomer shock on the rear which is enough to take the edge off of hits but not enough to make the bike inchworm down trails.
The saddle is a Selle Italia Flite Titanium Gel. I actually have a Moots version on the Moots now. The one with the little alligator embroidered into the cover.
The last bike is a 1998 Nashbar Flashback. I've had 4 of them. The first one was stolen out of my garage on Christmas Eve in 1999. The second one was black and not quite the right size and this one is my version of the one that was stolen. I don't name my bikes with the exception of this one. It's name is Philll...Silver.
It's a Kinesis aluminum frame mountain bike like a Retrotec Classic of the same era. It rides really nice but without the boat anchorage of a beach cruiser frame. The rear rack is a Soma Deco Rack which matches the lines perfectly. Philll gets lots of comments and head turns when I go out riding on him. It doesn't hurt that he's wicked fast.
The 4th one I have is my daughter's.
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The 4 Seasons is very nice. I have no need for the snow capabilities so this one s the one I love - https://www.sevencycles.com/bikes/expat-sl.php
My Surly Long Haul Trucker has made an excellent commuting bike, but with benefit of hindsight, I definitely would probably go with a Troll or a Salsa Vaya next time. The LHT is a dream on paved roads, but terrible off road.
Of course I'd love that Seven Four Season, but unless I hit the lottery, I'm not going to spend more on a bike than a car.
Of course I'd love that Seven Four Season, but unless I hit the lottery, I'm not going to spend more on a bike than a car.
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The 4 Seasons is very nice. I have no need for the snow capabilities so this one s the one I love - https://www.sevencycles.com/bikes/expat-sl.php
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I do have snow so the 4 seasons is the one I have been checking out. Talked to Seven today now I am trying to figure out how to afford it! It will have an IGH, dynamo front hub and possibly a front rack too. I already bought 2 bikes this year but fell in love with the 4 seasons model after running across it this past week, now the brain wheel is spinning again for this bike.
Regardless, that 4 Seasons is likely the Ultimate Bike. For me it would be the one I cited with a gates belt and IGH. Just got my catalogue in the mail today
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What would your ultimate bike be? I ask this based on your experience and desires.
I have (and have had) some very nice bikes, but as usual am looking for the perfect bike. Right now my Salsa Vaya fits the bill quite closely with my Shimano Ultegra brifters and geariing, BB7 disc brakes, beautiful Mavic rims and Schwalbe Marathon Supreme tires. What I would contemplate changing are the sloping top tube, going to an internally geared hub (even though after well over 100,000 miles on Shimano I have NEVER had an issue), and maybe going back to rim brakes for weight savings (although I'm not looking for super light).
I have (and have had) some very nice bikes, but as usual am looking for the perfect bike. Right now my Salsa Vaya fits the bill quite closely with my Shimano Ultegra brifters and geariing, BB7 disc brakes, beautiful Mavic rims and Schwalbe Marathon Supreme tires. What I would contemplate changing are the sloping top tube, going to an internally geared hub (even though after well over 100,000 miles on Shimano I have NEVER had an issue), and maybe going back to rim brakes for weight savings (although I'm not looking for super light).
Does anyone except serious racers ever actually ride in the drops? I rarely see anyone using them. The hoods look comfortable but, for commuting in traffic, I like to be right on the (hydraulic) brakes so it's some variant of flat bar for me.
The internal hub with belt drive looks interesting -- something else for my next life. Another question: do internal hubs seriously complicate roadside tire changes?
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Gotta say I love my Vaya which is set up with Metropolis albatross-type bars, hydraulic brakes and 40 spoke Dyad rims with White Industries hubs. Drop bars won't do it for me, my back or my gut. I'd like the stainless steel Vaya with couplers but that's for another life.
Does anyone except serious racers ever actually ride in the drops? I rarely see anyone using them. The hoods look comfortable but, for commuting in traffic, I like to be right on the (hydraulic) brakes so it's some variant of flat bar for me.
The internal hub with belt drive looks interesting -- something else for my next life. Another question: do internal hubs seriously complicate roadside tire changes?
Does anyone except serious racers ever actually ride in the drops? I rarely see anyone using them. The hoods look comfortable but, for commuting in traffic, I like to be right on the (hydraulic) brakes so it's some variant of flat bar for me.
The internal hub with belt drive looks interesting -- something else for my next life. Another question: do internal hubs seriously complicate roadside tire changes?
Side note - I like my orange Vaya, but really like the brick red of the new frame. I would almost consider selling mine just to get the red (mine is like brand new).
As far as riding in the drops I did that once The rest is on the brake hoods and then the top. The drops do make a nice place for my mirror though.
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Seconded! I love my new 520, but I do think that discs could be pretty nice. That being said, my stock linear pull brakes did a great job stopping me rather suddenly today at a red light with little warning as I was riding at a pretty good clip, so I can't complain too much.
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Gotta say I love my Vaya which is set up with Metropolis albatross-type bars, hydraulic brakes and 40 spoke Dyad rims with White Industries hubs. Drop bars won't do it for me, my back or my gut. I'd like the stainless steel Vaya with couplers but that's for another life.
Does anyone except serious racers ever actually ride in the drops? I rarely see anyone using them. The hoods look comfortable but, for commuting in traffic, I like to be right on the (hydraulic) brakes so it's some variant of flat bar for me.
The internal hub with belt drive looks interesting -- something else for my next life. Another question: do internal hubs seriously complicate roadside tire changes?
Does anyone except serious racers ever actually ride in the drops? I rarely see anyone using them. The hoods look comfortable but, for commuting in traffic, I like to be right on the (hydraulic) brakes so it's some variant of flat bar for me.
The internal hub with belt drive looks interesting -- something else for my next life. Another question: do internal hubs seriously complicate roadside tire changes?
Answer to quest 2: Yes, IGH's make it a bit more difficult to change flats. My Nexus 8 uses nutted axles, so I have to carry a 15mm wrench and a spare spoke to undo the shifter cable from the hub. Except I don't do that anymore because I stopped worrying and learned to love the Schwalbe Marathon Plus.
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I really like my Vaya as well and was considering putting the Albatrosses on as well. I had them on my Marin Highway One, but sold it with them. I'd need to change a lot though to go from Brifters on the drops. Do you have any pictures of yours that you can share? How did you settle your shifting? Bar ends?
Here is a link to some photos: https://sdrv.ms/14xUtnL
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I put on XT shifters and XT hydraulic brakes. I presume you'd just get shifters to match your derailleurs and regular brake levers for your bb7s.
Here is a link to some photos: https://sdrv.ms/14xUtnL
Here is a link to some photos: https://sdrv.ms/14xUtnL