Light, well equiped bike for commuting + trips?
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Light, well equiped bike for commuting + trips?
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A friend is considering buying an e-bike to stop driving to work, as she only has a few km's one-way.
The reason for the e-bike is that there's a 7% hill before getting home.
However, she has very little experience of riding bicycles, and I wonder if an e-bike is really a good idea, considering its disavantages (price, battery, can't be used for trips in the country.) I suspect she focused on e-bikes because it's often in the press.
Alternatively, I was wondering if there were light, well-equiped bikes (3x8 speeds, rear-rack, mudguard) that would be about as easy to climb that hill in business clothes but have the avantage of being usable to get out of the city.
I'm thinking of bikes like the Stevens Gran Turismo, not necessarily with a drop handlebar.
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A friend is considering buying an e-bike to stop driving to work, as she only has a few km's one-way.
The reason for the e-bike is that there's a 7% hill before getting home.
However, she has very little experience of riding bicycles, and I wonder if an e-bike is really a good idea, considering its disavantages (price, battery, can't be used for trips in the country.) I suspect she focused on e-bikes because it's often in the press.
Alternatively, I was wondering if there were light, well-equiped bikes (3x8 speeds, rear-rack, mudguard) that would be about as easy to climb that hill in business clothes but have the avantage of being usable to get out of the city.
I'm thinking of bikes like the Stevens Gran Turismo, not necessarily with a drop handlebar.
Thank you.
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Thanks for the feedback. Ideally, it should be a brand available in a store here since she knows nothing about bikes so will rely entirely on someone fixing issues for her, but if there are really good brands that have no retailer, I'm still interested.
Are there other bikes I should check besides the Sirus collection from Specialized? What about Felt, Charge, etc.?
The goal is to start from a 8-10kg (17-22lbs) naked bike so she ends up with a 12kg (26lbs) bike once the mudguards + rear-rack are added.
Are there other bikes I should check besides the Sirus collection from Specialized? What about Felt, Charge, etc.?
The goal is to start from a 8-10kg (17-22lbs) naked bike so she ends up with a 12kg (26lbs) bike once the mudguards + rear-rack are added.
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If she's up for climbing the hill, then yes, a regular bike will work. If an e-bike gets her to ride more often...
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I tried a friend's e-bike a few weeks ago and it's a lot of fun to just twist the grip and go 20 MPH with zero effort. However, I'm not really interested for myself.
Be careful though. There are a LOT of bikes out there that are crap. Don't buy anything with lead-acid batteries or brush motors. You want Lithium-(something) batteries and brushless motors. This is not cheap. However, the lead-acid brushed motor crap is just throwing money away - the motors and batteries will maybe last a year. My friend started with a cheap motor and after a few hundred miles the super thin wires melted their insulation and shorted the motor, and he had to ride the rest of the way home effectively with the brakes nearly locked, then had to tear the motor apart to rewire it.
Be careful though. There are a LOT of bikes out there that are crap. Don't buy anything with lead-acid batteries or brush motors. You want Lithium-(something) batteries and brushless motors. This is not cheap. However, the lead-acid brushed motor crap is just throwing money away - the motors and batteries will maybe last a year. My friend started with a cheap motor and after a few hundred miles the super thin wires melted their insulation and shorted the motor, and he had to ride the rest of the way home effectively with the brakes nearly locked, then had to tear the motor apart to rewire it.
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Thanks for the infos. I did start looking into e-bikes... which is why I think it'd be a mistake, as she seems to getting to like riding (she's been riding with me on week-ends), so it'd be a waste of money to stick with her crappy, entry level bicycle and buy an e-bike for commuting which might not be necessary.
I googled around, checked what eg. ChainReactionCycles has to offer, but am still looking for brands so I know what my options are, regardless of whether the brand is distributed here or not.
At this point, I think a good bike would be:
FWIW, she's ready to spend €1.500-2.000 ($2.000-2.600) on a bike.
I googled around, checked what eg. ChainReactionCycles has to offer, but am still looking for brands so I know what my options are, regardless of whether the brand is distributed here or not.
At this point, I think a good bike would be:
- as light as possible, while still being a good bike for commuting + day trips (ie. neither a road bike nor a real touring bike)
- to keep things clean and easy, hub lights + gears with a good ratio so climbing that hill is a breeze
- rear-rack + fenders
FWIW, she's ready to spend €1.500-2.000 ($2.000-2.600) on a bike.
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Thanks for the infos. I did start looking into e-bikes... which is why I think it'd be a mistake, as she seems to getting to like riding (she's been riding with me on week-ends), so it'd be a waste of money to stick with her crappy, entry level bicycle and buy an e-bike for commuting which might not be necessary.
I googled around, checked what eg. ChainReactionCycles has to offer, but am still looking for brands so I know what my options are, regardless of whether the brand is distributed here or not.
At this point, I think a good bike would be:
FWIW, she's ready to spend €1.500-2.000 ($2.000-2.600) on a bike.
I googled around, checked what eg. ChainReactionCycles has to offer, but am still looking for brands so I know what my options are, regardless of whether the brand is distributed here or not.
At this point, I think a good bike would be:
- as light as possible, while still being a good bike for commuting + day trips (ie. neither a road bike nor a real touring bike)
- to keep things clean and easy, hub lights + gears with a good ratio so climbing that hill is a breeze
- rear-rack + fenders
FWIW, she's ready to spend €1.500-2.000 ($2.000-2.600) on a bike.
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https://www.vortrieb.com/special_edition.php5
It's in German, but Google translate can help you with that. Comes well equipped for commuting and costs much less than 1500 euros. In my experience, it's hard to find good commuting bikes in France, but they're everywhere in Germany.
It's in German, but Google translate can help you with that. Comes well equipped for commuting and costs much less than 1500 euros. In my experience, it's hard to find good commuting bikes in France, but they're everywhere in Germany.
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If anyone knows of a light, city-ready bike with hub gear/lights...
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Edit: Those are apparently the main manufacturers in Germany:
Stevens www.stevensbikes.de : Gran Turismo
Vortrieb www.vortrieb.com/special_edition.php5
VSF Fahhradmanufaktur www.fahrradmanufaktur.de
Winora www.winora.de
Bergamont www.bergamont.de
Kalkhoff www.kalkhoff-bikes.com
Cube www.cube.eu
Focus www.focus-bikes.com
What about Dutch brands?
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You don't say how long the 7% hill is.
I can tell you that for most people who aren't in the habit of riding a bike, an 7% climb is going to be challenging regardless of how light or well-geared the bike is. If it's a short climb she'd probably adapt to it quickly, though it's still likely to induce a good bit of sweating.
I'd recommend that she borrow a bike and try the climb a few times before committing to a purchase.
I can tell you that for most people who aren't in the habit of riding a bike, an 7% climb is going to be challenging regardless of how light or well-geared the bike is. If it's a short climb she'd probably adapt to it quickly, though it's still likely to induce a good bit of sweating.
I'd recommend that she borrow a bike and try the climb a few times before committing to a purchase.
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Excellent idea to let her try your hybrid. See how much she really likes it.
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I climbed it using the smallest gears (front 30 x back 27). Turns out the slope is only 4% and less than 2km. It took a good 10mn but it should be a breeze even for someone not used to riding.
https://app.strava.com/segments/5312361
https://app.strava.com/segments/5312361
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I climbed it using the smallest gears (front 30 x back 27). Turns out the slope is only 4% and less than 2km. It took a good 10mn but it should be a breeze even for someone not used to riding.
https://app.strava.com/segments/5312361
https://app.strava.com/segments/5312361
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Light And E Bike Ie motor controller and Battery , are opposites, perhaps ..
towing around the extra weight of that , so it's there to get the uphill burst may be just part of the trade off..
I have a Nice Koga NL Made bike , they have a big range , in all categories from Folding tandems to electric Oma/Opas.
Gazelle is another NL brand wide range there too..
towing around the extra weight of that , so it's there to get the uphill burst may be just part of the trade off..
I have a Nice Koga NL Made bike , they have a big range , in all categories from Folding tandems to electric Oma/Opas.
Gazelle is another NL brand wide range there too..
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