Does your local store have a bike rack?
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I've basically done this on occasion.
Most of the stores near me don't have bike racks, but are otherwise friendly (suggest bringing bike into vestibule, careful with bagging.
The ShopRite does have a bike rack, but when I had bought a new laptop and didn't want to leave the laptop (and clearly marked box) outside, I just wheeled the bike through the store. Nobody had any problems; it's no bigger than a shopping cart.
Most of the stores near me don't have bike racks, but are otherwise friendly (suggest bringing bike into vestibule, careful with bagging.
The ShopRite does have a bike rack, but when I had bought a new laptop and didn't want to leave the laptop (and clearly marked box) outside, I just wheeled the bike through the store. Nobody had any problems; it's no bigger than a shopping cart.
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The Wal-Mart in Orangevale occasionally has a cool old Peugot moped in the bike rack.
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I haven't seen a rack at any retail business anywhere in my area including bike shops.
edit: ha, I forgot that there is a single lock post at the Publix market I used to frequent.
edit: ha, I forgot that there is a single lock post at the Publix market I used to frequent.
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I haven't used a tree to lock up yet but I've used mailboxes, lightpoles, building columns........... Our bike shops have racks to park at. I don't park at high risk locations.
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That's how Walmart WANTS you to think. They've built their empire on that, and used their lofty heights to truly BE "too big to fail", and have savaged the American economy as a result.
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The local Target has a nice modern rack out front. My local supermarket has nothing, but I lock to the railing out front. The shopping center that the supermarket is in does have a modern bike rack that I could use, but it's a couple of stores up and I don't want to carry my groceries that far.
There is another supermarket that has nothing that fits my u-lock, so I tend to avoid going there.
There is another supermarket that has nothing that fits my u-lock, so I tend to avoid going there.
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Most of the bigger stores in my area do have bike racks, but unfortunately, it's the crappy kind, where you're basically supposed to lock the front wheel or the fork to the rack. Usually, there's no clearance for the rear wheel, which is the second most valuable piece of equipment on your bike, to get locked up, especially if your wheel is bigger or you have a rear luggage rack and fenders, etc. The worst is, you are basically forced to lock your bike with a crappy cable lock instead of use a proper D-lock in order to lock both the frame and the rear wheel to the rack.
Here goes an example:
Here goes an example:
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I have 3 Walmarts that I ride my bike to depending where I'm at.
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Almost no stores or shopping complexes in northern New Jersey have bike racks. The only ones I can think of are at a local shopping complex with two restaurants plus other stores, thus most likely the people who actually ride there are the Central and South American underpaid labor, a Shop-rite, and that is it. Even most schools in my area don't seem to have bike racks, and even if they do few to no kids ride.
There are few utility cyclists here in the land of the SUV.
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The Safeway I shop at does have a rack, but it is positioned in such a way that I cannot get the rear triangle near the rack at all. The only option is to lock the front wheel (and my front wheel has quick release!).
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My local shops have a rack, but its around back where the employees smoke, and its not visible from the parking lot. I kind of think of it as a good and a bad thing. A lot of employees smoke, so I've got a good chance of (good guy) eyes being on it.
The local Walmart and Target stores are over 5mi away across a highway, so I don't even consider biking there. With just a rack and pannier set, it wouldn't be worth the trip for just a few items. For groceries, I'd rather buy from the local shops anyway.
The local Walmart and Target stores are over 5mi away across a highway, so I don't even consider biking there. With just a rack and pannier set, it wouldn't be worth the trip for just a few items. For groceries, I'd rather buy from the local shops anyway.
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My local Walmart has 2 bike racks, located off to the side (by the shelter where employees take their smoke breaks). It's less visible, which can make bike theft popular if anyone ever rode their bike to this store (i never see any, probably because this store is located on the very top of a steep hill-a hill I would never voluntarily ride up). The Target located directly across the street doesn't have any. The store I shop at the most is Aldi, I've never seen a bike rack at any of their stores. I've locked my bike to the rear of the cart corral to keep it out of other shoppers' way, people have to retrieve their 25 cent deposit for the carts so they don't just shove the cart into the rack like seen at Walmart many times so I never have to worry about my bike being banged up.
Personally I think like pay phones, bike racks are a thing of the past. They don't seem to be used much anymore and as a result stores are removing them from their property. As long as there's a sign or light post, they really aren't necessary IMO.
Personally I think like pay phones, bike racks are a thing of the past. They don't seem to be used much anymore and as a result stores are removing them from their property. As long as there's a sign or light post, they really aren't necessary IMO.
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In the D/FW metroplex, there are several requests to have them installed. All new or refurbished parks have really nice new ones. I think I read somewhere that one of the cities is requiring all new construction to include a bike rack.
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Actually you can blame everyone for having too much sex and overpopulating the city causing big box's to come in to feed the masses. Imagine standing in line at a small "mom and pop" store with the line going around the block. You end up waiting too long and then your bike gets stolen. No thanks. Thats why we have costco, 4 savemarts, wincoe, foods company, and many others to feed the masses. I do my main shopping at a real grocery store. And it doesn't end in "Mart" or "get".
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I can see that working as long as bike commuters are few. However, once more and more people start to cycle to work and a lot of them realize they can use the bike to do their shopping, there will also be a lot of people trying to lock up their bikes to only a few signs, light posts, etc. All in all, I believe stores should start to invest in good bike parking infrastructure, especially if cyclists are on the rise in the given area.
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I can see that working as long as bike commuters are few. However, once more and more people start to cycle to work and a lot of them realize they can use the bike to do their shopping, there will also be a lot of people trying to lock up their bikes to only a few signs, light posts, etc. All in all, I believe stores should start to invest in good bike parking infrastructure, especially if cyclists are on the rise in the given area.
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They stick all that big box stuff in another town there are limited flat places here..
this city (about 10K) did install a lot of bike racks, though.. so the signposts are not all there is to lock up to .
I say Wally feeds Off the little people . given the wages keep 'Associates' in the dole income levels..
but wealth runs politics , so everyone else is a tool.
The Box stores shift Water and sewage costs off to the Residents and road access cost to the state,
under the flag of Incentives. circling the drain ..
this city (about 10K) did install a lot of bike racks, though.. so the signposts are not all there is to lock up to .
I say Wally feeds Off the little people . given the wages keep 'Associates' in the dole income levels..
but wealth runs politics , so everyone else is a tool.
The Box stores shift Water and sewage costs off to the Residents and road access cost to the state,
under the flag of Incentives. circling the drain ..
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I was at a Cosco a while back. I went to get fast food outside the store. While waiting for my order, I saw a woman with a single speed and trailer walk her bike out of the store and ride away. I appears that she did ride her bike into the store and parked it in the exit area while doing her shopping.
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Every day I ride past a strip mall that has no bike racks, located on a street just a few blocks from a busy mup. My hairdresser is there, so whenever I go in for a trim I have to lock up to a railing around a raised section of sidewalk outside a donut shop - there aren't even any signs to lock to.
Numerous times I've told them that they should ask the landlord to install a good bike rack, as so many people ride past when coming off the mup, but it's never happened. So, there's an independent butcher shop, a women's clothing store, and numerous other businesses in that mall that I'll probably never visit more than a few times a year, whereas if they had a decent bike rack I - and a lot of other people - could stop off on the way home from work.
Numerous times I've told them that they should ask the landlord to install a good bike rack, as so many people ride past when coming off the mup, but it's never happened. So, there's an independent butcher shop, a women's clothing store, and numerous other businesses in that mall that I'll probably never visit more than a few times a year, whereas if they had a decent bike rack I - and a lot of other people - could stop off on the way home from work.
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My local REI has a short ribbon rack. It's cemented into place so close to the building it can't actually be used by more than one bike placed flat against it. It's been that way for ~ten years; apparently REI and their customers are cool with that.
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Actually you can blame everyone for having too much sex and overpopulating the city causing big box's to come in to feed the masses. Imagine standing in line at a small "mom and pop" store with the line going around the block. You end up waiting too long and then your bike gets stolen. No thanks. Thats why we have costco, 4 savemarts, wincoe, foods company, and many others to feed the masses. I do my main shopping at a real grocery store. And it doesn't end in "Mart" or "get".
It might seem like that if you live in an area with a growing population but you have to remember that big cities with high population densities have historically got by just fine without big box stores. They do it by mixing retail and residential. You don't have a single mom and pop trying to serve everyone in a few square miles, you have a mom and pop on every corner. Open air markets can serve large populations. Delivery is much more common. Even in small U.S. towns if you're old enough you might remember that dairy products were often delivered vs bought in a store. I've had older relatives that used to be "Milk Men".
Big box retail is more connected to the rise of automobile than any rise in population.
Back on topic: Many of the places I frequent by bike have racks but there are places that don't. It's rare that I have much difficulty finding something to lock my bike to but there are times when I really have to look. Since I live in a city there are lots of stores that don't have parking lots. The places that do have lots seem less likely to have bike racks than those that don't. That's not universally true though and it could be more my perception than reality.
I also live pretty close to some popular bike routes so for that reason shops in my area tend to have racks.
The nearest grocery store does have a rack but it's an old fashioned "grid" type. It works. The closest Walmart would be an unpleasant trip by bike anyway. I have no idea if it has a rack. There are Targets that are much closer and they have bike racks.
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Our big box stores do have a small rack at each location. Our downtown area is much more progressive with its modern and accessible bike racks. I do wonder why some of our outdoor shops, esp one of the LBS doesn't have any bike parking AND you have to walk up about 7-8 tiny, steep concrete steps to get to its entrance... not only does it make it inconvenient to bring one's bike in for service, but say goodbye to any customers who are handicapped or customers with young children (future riders!) in strollers (potential bike trailer customers).
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I was at a Cosco a while back. I went to get fast food outside the store. While waiting for my order, I saw a woman with a single speed and trailer walk her bike out of the store and ride away. I appears that she did ride her bike into the store and parked it in the exit area while doing her shopping.
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They stick all that big box stuff in another town there are limited flat places here..
this city (about 10K) did install a lot of bike racks, though.. so the signposts are not all there is to lock up to .
I say Wally feeds Off the little people . given the wages keep 'Associates' in the dole income levels..
but wealth runs politics , so everyone else is a tool.
The Box stores shift Water and sewage costs off to the Residents and road access cost to the state,
under the flag of Incentives. circling the drain ..
this city (about 10K) did install a lot of bike racks, though.. so the signposts are not all there is to lock up to .
I say Wally feeds Off the little people . given the wages keep 'Associates' in the dole income levels..
but wealth runs politics , so everyone else is a tool.
The Box stores shift Water and sewage costs off to the Residents and road access cost to the state,
under the flag of Incentives. circling the drain ..
On topic: Yeah the stores I shop at have racks.
I do not shop at box stores, so I don't care if they have racks or not.