Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Bikes: A lot of old bikes and a few new ones
Originally Posted by metalonmetal
Thanks for all the feedback. I know the Space Horse has a very loyal following, and it is a beautiful bike, IMO.
What leads you to say that the Space Horse has a nicer frame than the Satellite Comp? My understanding is that Space Horse is made from 612 steel, All City's 4130 version, while the Satellite is 520. I'm no expert, but I would think these materials would have similar weight and ride quality. Space Horse also uses a 4130 fork, while Satellite goes carbon. Is there something in the design or manufacturing process that further elevates the Space Horse frame? I'm aware of the special dropouts.
Both of the bikes are getting close out pricing at LBSs in my area to make room for next year's models, so my decision will definitely be guided by what kind of deal I can strike.
The Space Horse looks nicer and has some rust treatment; I think from what I've seen that it is a little better made with more attention to detail (which is typical of more expensive frames). But yeah, Reynolds 520 is very nice stuff and fully comparable is my guess to the "612" chrome moly used by All City. Personally I like the steel fork over the carbon but you may feel differently about this. I'm not convinced that the Space Horse is worth the xtra money over the Jamis. If the Jamis does everything you want and price matters to you (it does to some people obviously), the Jamis is a "better" bike.
I still think it's a close call between the 2 bikes. The Space Horse is just a good looking bike. I don't like burning through cash when buying a bike but it is something that you will have and use for a very long time. That bike looks like a keeper to me.
Edit: you could write All City and see what they have to say about what makes their steel special. Also not all manufacturers spec their steel framesets the same way. There are a lot of different variations and All City provides a lot of detail about their tubing which is part marketing and part a sign that the chrome moly was selected for the job at hand:
Frame | All-City Space Horse
612 Select ChroMoly steel. Double butted down, top, and seat tubes. Externally tapered, ovalized, and dimpled chain stays, tapered seat stays
130mm rear spacing, 1 1/8th headtube, English bottom bracket, 27.2 seatpost
Fork | All-City Space Horse
100% 4130 ChroMoly tapered fork blades, lugged crown and matching dropout.
Last edited by bikemig; 09-05-13 at 08:45 AM.