Nachoman

If you seldom use it, that sounds like a good argument against owning a kickstand.

dwbstr

To explain, I use it when I load or unload heavy stuff in my bags. My bike is a recumbent with USS. I replaced two of the bolts that hold my handlebars on with QR ones. To use it I set the rear brake, open the QRs, rotate the bars forward and down until they touch the ground, lift the front of the bike a little and close the QRs.

I suppose I could use my bike as a camp chair that way if I ever get around to going on a tour.

cplager

I seldom use my air bags in my car, but I'm not getting rid of them anytime soon.

Consularrider

I'm in the pro kickstand camp for my commuting hybrids, but don't have one on my recreational road bike.

goldfinch

https://www.rivbike.com/product-p/k5.htm

ricebowl

A kickstand is more essential than pedals

DVC45

A pair of wheels are more essential than pedals.











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Ridefreemc

Thanks goldfinch. I saw that once before, but see that the protection is only on the top. I'd likely need bottom too. I may get a piece of delrin and shape it to fit the stays. This way I can spread the load further across the stays, rather than just rubber bumper it like the Riv version.

gpolly1

Time and place... It's nice to have one when you need it.

ThermionicScott 

devianb

I have been carrying things in a bag for so long I forgot about loading up items on a rack or stuffing them into paniers. In that case a kickstand is a must have feature because it is a total pita keeping a bike upright while trying to load.

cobrabyte

I like to have a kickstand on some of my bikes, on others not so much. It depends on the bike.

himespau 

I think this is a cool idea. I'd buy one. Sort of like a minimalist clickstand and maybe a little more firmly attached.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2265854/the-upstand

Don't think every bike needs a stand, but I think they're handy at times (like in a garage without the headroom to hang them and limited wall space to lean them.

spare_wheel

some follow the cyclechic manifesto:

https://www.copenhagencyclechic.com/2...manifesto.html

others follow the rules:

https://www.velominati.com/the-rules/

rolliepollie

I never cared for kickstands until I got my Prodeco ebike with one



Feels solid, stays planted on the ground, and is height adjustable! If it can handle 60lb bikes it should work fine for any regular bike. Granted I only owned it for about a month but I don't see it wearing out anytime soon.

AlTheKiller

where do you guys live that you seriously encounter so much difficulty in leaning your bike somewhere?? It's boggling my mind. unless you live in the Sahara, or other vast, untreed wilderness you're probably never much more than six feet from a temporary bike stand... if I happen to be walking through a field with my bike and I need to set it somewhere, I lay it on the ground. it's not really that difficult.

for super loaded rigs it makes sense. for everything else it seems like an answer to a problem which doesn't exist.

Papa Tom

Hmmm...this thread is BACK, eh?

One last time, if you want to get off your bike for a few seconds to look for something in a pannier, take a photo, or run into a small store for a pack of gum, a kickstand just makes good sense. I don't see why anybody is arguing it, as the damned thing does NOTHING to hinder the performance of a regular old commuter bike and provides more benefits than it does problems.

Yes, there may be something within 15 feet to lean your bike against, but will you be able to see it through that store window? And is it easier to try to balance the bike against a tree while shuffling through your pannier than it is to have a bike that's balanced on its own weight?

I can't believe I took the bait and I'm back in this discussion. A bike is supposed to have a freakin' kickstand...PERIOD!!!

Ghost Ryder

None of my bikes have come with kickstands.
If I recall the only bike I owned with a kick stand was my very 1st bike as a child(come from a tricycle). Once the training wheels were taken on, so was the kickstand. BMX always get put on their sides anyways.

No I just lean my bike against a wall,in a rack, or inside down when stop. I know people say it saves weight, but not so much on my commuter/gravel grinder. I find I just sort of useless to me, cumbersome in a sense.
If I had full paniers, it might make more sense.

tjspiel

I don't typically use panniers

I can take a picture while still on the bike, lean it against something, or just lay it down

If I'm going to walk into a store I need something to lock the bike to anyway and if it's locked I don't have to keep it within view.

Further, they often scratch up the finish on your bike. They can work their way loose until they're smacking into your pedals. Or in my case the mounting screw rusted so bad I had to drill it off. They make noise over bumps and frankly most of them aren't that good at holding up a bike.

See you next month.

cyccommute 

I do use panniers. Sometimes I use a trailer.




A kickstand won't hold up either one. I learned that lesson long ago. And off-road (see the trailer), a kickstand is just an accident waiting to happen. Since a kickstand won't hold up a loaded touring bike and it's useless...or even dangerous...off-road, I've learned how to not use one. It's pretty easy, actually. Just hold up the bike or lean it against something like in the picture at the North Carolina state line. Works just fine.

Ghost Ryder

^^^ A birch tree is better than any feeble kickstand! ^^^

tjspiel

When push comes to shove I'm actually pretty neutral when it comes to kick stands. Of the three bikes I use regularly, one has a kickstand and the other 2 don't.

The one that that does have a kickstand also has a mounting bracket for one which eliminates some of the problems. I'll use the kickstand in the garage (out of the wind) where frankly it's nice to have some bikes that are freestanding. Those are also the bikes that tend to get knocked over though. This bike is 30 years old and while it's in good shape I'm not particularly concerned about it getting scratched.

So what it comes down to for me is that I don't feel that any advantages to having a kickstand warrant my putting one on either of the two bikes that don't have them. By the same token, since there is a mounting bracket on the 3rd bike, I don't feel that the disadvantages are enough to warrant taking it off.

CommuteCommando

Last time before unsubscribing. If you want a comestealmybikestand, knock yourself out. Do not tell me what I have to put on my bike.

NoviceJohn

I have no use for a kickstand. When I unload I open my tailgate and gently lean my bike against it while I unload other things. When I'm on the MUP and need a rest, I, again, gently lean my bike against the bench. So far, my bike has not fallen or have any paint damage from leaning. Also, when I lean my bike, I always try to use the quick release on the rear wheel as the contact point. I rarely use the frame or seat.

cyccommute 

Not a birch. It's a Populus tremuloidies, AKA quaking aspen. Birch trees don't grow on the north rim of the Grand Canyon. But, yeah, it was sturdy.