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    Senior Member zvez's Avatar
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    here in GA 50cc scooters are not required to be tagged or covered by insurance, so why should bikes?

    Quote Originally Posted by phoebeisis View Post
    VC has nothing to do with it in my opinion.

    maybe-but if you insist your bike is a vehicle-and be treated like every other vehicle-
    well......... LICENSE TAXES INSURANCE just like a vehicle
    Better dumps that designation- call it.......... Bicycling
    Careful what you wish for

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    you obviously haven't spent much time in MS or AL.

    Quote Originally Posted by DX-MAN View Post
    Without trying to offend any members who may live in GA, the three years I lived there were more of a culture shock that EUROPE was! The people I dealt with took stupid to a whole new extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zvez View Post
    you obviously haven't spent much time in MS or AL.
    Please don't leave out in LA, .

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    Quote Originally Posted by acidfast7 View Post
    personally, i'm for cycle registration and a mandatory yearly fee payment if it goes to the cycling infrastructure and promotes a mandatory database of cycles with serial numbers, such that they can't really be stolen.

    however, it seems that US govt has it's hands full right now.

    Most of us already pay our share of taxes, and I definitely don't want the government mandating I do something else. What a hassle it would be, having to spend time and money dealing with registration and/or licensing. What happens if our registration expires, suddenly we have to worry about getting a ticket? No thanks, lets keep some freedom. If there are enough rules and regulations we all inevitably become criminals.
    Last edited by turky lurkey; 10-06-13 at 05:49 PM.

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    DUH-These laws regs would be to punish bike riders- they don't have much to do with safety
    Scooter riders apparently aren't pissing off the locals
    Lane takers-OBVIOUSLY ARE.

    Hey leave Louisiana out of it. Say what you want about ALA MISS- Gulf Shores-nice enough beach-but that is about all that can be said for those two states
    besides Pensacola on east-much nicer beaches!(food crummy in all 3 states)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftimw View Post
    From what I've read and those that I have spoken to, this bill is going nowhere.

    BTW: For those of you with disparaging remarks regarding Georgia: If you stay out, we'll both be happy.
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    It wouldn't be the first Stupid Bike Law in Georgia:

    40-6-297.
    (a) It shall be unlawful for any person to sell a new bicycle or a pedal for use on a bicycle unless the pedals on such bicycle or such pedals are equipped with reflectors of a type approved by the Department of Public Safety. The reflector on each pedal shall be so designed and situated as to be visible from the front and rear of the bicycle during darkness from a distance of 200 feet. The commissioner of public safety is authorized to promulgate rules and regulations and establish standards for such reflectors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson249 View Post
    Quoting Walrus 1: "Those, sir, are fighting words! I shall have my man servant fetch the dueling pistols and we shall meet on the field at dawn!"
    "In all seriousness I'm glad I left that sorry state."

    The challenged party gets their choice of weapons. Besides would send your second not a manservant to set the conditions for the encounter.
    In the spirit of southern hospitality I wanted to not burden the other party with providing the weapons. He is also my second; he is extremely useful like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus1 View Post
    In the spirit of southern hospitality I wanted to not burden the other party with providing the weapons. He is also my second; he is extremely useful like that.
    How very thoughtful. Your opponent would truly be fortunate to fall to your pistols on the field of honour.
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    Jeezum Crow. I'm glad I live in Delaware.

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    We also need license plates on Pedestrians and Airplanes!
    Just another way to raise taxe$!

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    Quote Originally Posted by turky lurkey View Post
    Most of us already pay our share of taxes, and I definitely don't want the government mandating I do something else. What a hassle it would be, having to spend time and money dealing with registration and/or licensing. What happens if our registration expires, suddenly we have to worry about getting a ticket? No thanks, lets keep some freedom. If there are enough rules and regulations we all inevitably become criminals.
    Good. Keep the ****ty infrastructure then
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    There is an Idaho(?) Congresscritter who for some time keeps introducing a bill to ban bicycles on public roads entirely. Yep, the home of the Idaho Stop, perhaps some of the most progressive bike related legislation ever crafted, is also home to an avowed vehicular cycling opponent. You are in huge denial if you don't think that VC enrages cagers and isn't somehow at the core of bills like the one in GA. When the issue comes up in non-cycling forums that I visit, the number one and two peeves the motoring public has about bikes is that they (can) run red lights and that they hog the lane. I don't personally know any take the lane types or red light runners (full disclosure: I run more red lights than I stop for) for that matter. Myself, I am not a take the laner, I assiduously share my lane with faster motor traffic. Some decline the offer and trail my bike until they can pass 'safely'. That actually causes me more stress than if they just passed me and got it over with. Maybe the bill will pass, and maybe it wont. No one thought we would have a Government Shut-down. It should bother us all that in 2013, and facing the "End of Life as We Knew It" on this planet, that cyclists aren't kissed full on the mouth by total strangers and offered free hydration, massages, lap dances, or other tangible tokens of appreciation by a grateful country in the throes of absolute awe and adoration of our steely resolve to do battle with the forces of nature and save the planet one cubic foot of CO2 at a time.

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    Next thing, they'll be saying bikes have to wait in line behind cars waiting at lights, rather than filtering to the front.

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    They can have my bike when they pry it from my cold dead hands (please be sure to clean the car tire tracks off my back before burial).

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    Quote Originally Posted by acidfast7 View Post
    personally, i'm for cycle registration and a mandatory yearly fee payment if it goes to the cycling infrastructure and promotes a mandatory database of cycles with serial numbers, such that they can't really be stolen.
    +1 ^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leisesturm
    It should bother us all that in 2013, and facing the "End of Life as We Knew It" on this planet, that cyclists aren't kissed full on the mouth by total strangers and offered free hydration, massages, lap dances, or other tangible tokens of appreciation by a grateful country in the throes of absolute awe and adoration of our steely resolve to do battle with the forces of nature and save the planet one cubic foot of CO2 at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timtim2008 View Post
    the problem isnt the bikes going slow, its the cars going 70+ mph, on a 35mph road.
    BINGO if people would slow down they be safer, save fuel, and be safer for cars and bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RidingMatthew View Post
    BINGO if people would slow down they be safer, save fuel, and be safer for cars and bikes.
    speed cameras ... i think i got clipped doing 110 in a 70 when i moved to the UK (after driving in Germany ... 110 seems quite fine and 70 quite slow).

    i'm not looking forward to it, i did get clipped, hopefully they won't get all of the text off of the German plate.
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    I wish someone would stand up at the town hall (aka lynch mob) meetings and ask teh esteemed legislator a few questions:

    How much money will it cost to set up and operate the bureaucracy needed to license and register all the bicycles?

    Where will that money come from?

    Isn't there something better the state could do with that kind of money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdlamb View Post
    I wish someone would stand up at the town hall (aka lynch mob) meetings and ask teh esteemed legislator a few questions:

    How much money will it cost to set up and operate the bureaucracy needed to license and register all the bicycles?

    Where will that money come from?

    Isn't there something better the state could do with that kind of money?
    Easy, the money would come from registration fees, so it would cost the taxpayers nothing. In fact, it would generate revenue, which would help fund infrastructure improvements and education. Hundreds of jobs would be created in the process.

    Of course, this is all a big lie. The registration fee would be eqivalent to a tax, no infrastructure improvements would ever be built, and the jobs would be nothing more than bureaucratic paper pushing and regulating.

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    The whole point of it is punishment-
    punishing the riders who slow them down-intentionally as they see it.
    The punishment licensing would thin the herd of riders taking lanes.
    Nothing to do with infrastructure-

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    Gummint gotta to cover the tax giveaways to the Rich some how.

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    If you ask me, cars are what don't belong on OUR roads!


    The bicycle, quite literally, paved the road for automobiles. The explosive popularity of the human-powered, two-wheeled vehicle sparked road construction across the Western world’s cities. The League of American Wheelmen was a major vector for the political will necessary to build better roads with more than one million members (out of a mere 75 million people) at its peak. Sure they engaged in silliness like racing and bicycle polo (!) but at heart, the group was a potent, progressive social force that inadvertently helped bring about its own end by getting roads paved, thus making long distance “touring” possible in automobiles.

    http://knowledgeproblem.com/2009/05/...r-automobiles/

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