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acidfast7 11-08-13 02:41 PM

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TGIF, long week and busy weekend in UK.

stats:

310km/192mi
£395/$635 total
£1.27/km
€1.52/km
$3.30/mi

photo:

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=349830

bigbenaugust 11-08-13 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by noglider (Post 16227560)
I've been known to do stuff like that. People are embarrassed to be seen with me.

Three words: Kitty litter bucket. :)

Also, I have put 4300mi/6900km on my Fantom Cross Uno, and I only paid $329 for it ($428 with the second set of wheels). That should put it in the running for low cost per mile/kilometer.

acidfast7 11-08-13 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbenaugust (Post 16230927)
Three words: Kitty litter bucket. :)

Also, I have put 4300mi/6900km on my Fantom Cross Uno, and I only paid $329 for it ($428 with the second set of wheels). That should put it in the running for low cost per mile/kilometer.

i'm keeping the cost of the bike + lights + lock + cycloputer + all consumables (tires/tubes/etc...)

get back to me with a number for that info and i'll put you in the posts as a control :D

edit: don't forget to include all taxes ;)

bigbenaugust 11-08-13 04:17 PM

I've had the darned thing for a year and a half and most accessories I use with it predate it, some "creative accounting" may be required. :)

acidfast7 11-08-13 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbenaugust (Post 16230976)
I've had the darned thing for a year and a half and most accessories I use with it predate it, some "creative accounting" may be required. :)

me too ... i use my XC ski clothes mostly :)

however i would like to compensate for extra calories eaten and bus fare saved (£4.70/day for bus - £2 for a healthy 400kcals).

acidfast7 11-08-13 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbenaugust (Post 16230927)
Three words: Kitty litter bucket. :)

Also, I have put 4300mi/6900km on my Fantom Cross Uno, and I only paid $329 for it ($428 with the second set of wheels). That should put it in the running for low cost per mile/kilometer.

also, what happened to your first set of wheels? did they really fall apart/become unusable? i'm curious what kind of life I'll get out these wheels.

bigbenaugust 11-08-13 09:01 PM

The original rims had some bad reviews, so I ordered some 29er MTB wheels (Alex SUBs on high-flange hubs) to go with the bike. I never used the originals (Jalcos) and just built the bike with the Alex wheels. But I recently switched back to the originals after knocking one of the Alexes out of true and appreciate the weight loss and lower profile in the wind. I just need to learn to keep them true and not treat them like MTB wheels and they should be OK.

Truing is kind of the last frontier of bike maintenance for me. I am getting there now.

acidfast7 11-09-13 06:39 PM

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nice ride ... working at home on a Sunday so no riding ... brake pads have a little wear

stats:

332km/206mi
£395/$632 total
£1.18/km
€1.41/km
$3.06/mi

goal is to catch up to the ratios of bigbenaugust:

6900km/4287mi
£267/$438
3.8p/km
5c/km
10.2¢/mi

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=349987

I-Like-To-Bike 11-09-13 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by acidfast7 (Post 16230986)
me too ... i use my XC ski clothes mostly :)

however i would like to compensate for extra calories eaten and bus fare saved (£4.70/day for bus - £2 for a healthy 400kcals).

Don't know about you but I enjoy eating and if biking allows me to eat more food without gaining unwanted weight so much the better. I would consider the cost of the food as irrelevant to bike cost considerations.

Do really eat just for fueling purposes?

acidfast7 11-10-13 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike (Post 16233869)
Don't know about you but I enjoy eating and if biking allows me to eat more food without gaining unwanted weight so much the better. I would consider the cost of the food as irrelevant to bike cost considerations.

Do really eat just for fueling purposes?

No, I usually eat/drink really well.

Going to make some Lecsó for tonight and this week at work:

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=350019

acidfast7 11-11-13 02:19 PM

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really nice ride in the evening ... felt almost like summer but darker

stats:

350km/217mi
£395/$631 total
£1.12/km
€1.34/km
$2.90/mi

goal is to catch up to the ratios of bigbenaugust:

6900km/4287mi
£267/$438
3.8p/km
5c/km
10.2¢/mi

photo:

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=350277

acidfast7 11-12-13 03:32 PM

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i'm a little sluggish today

stats:

369km/230mi
£395/$628 total
£1.07/km
€1.26/km
$2.73/mi

goal is to catch up to the ratios of bigbenaugust:

6900km/4287mi
£267/$438
3.8p/km
5c/km
10.2¢/mi

photo:

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=350434

cobrabyte 11-13-13 08:14 AM

Sorry, that's not a BSO...what you have there is the British version of a Mercier Kilo TT...an inexpensive steel single speed. I've been commuting on one for years & all I've had to change after 3500 miles is brake pads, tires & the chain after they wore out. Not much can go wrong with these bikes so I can't say yours is a fair test.

A BSO is a clunky heavy crap bike from a cheap department store built up by some stocker in the back room that probably knows nothing about bikes. Get yourself one of those and come back in a couple years with a report ;-) you're playing it safe, pal...I'm not impressed.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7396/1...c1a47da9_c.jpg
aucdoc by (cobrabyte), on Flickr

jeffpoulin 11-13-13 11:45 AM

^^^ At least the forks are installed correctly. Half the BSOs I see around here have the forks installed backwards for some reason. I thought it was some kind of fad at first, but now I realize it was simply put together by someone who knows nothing about bicycles.

acidfast7 11-13-13 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cobrabyte (Post 16242783)
Sorry, that's not a BSO...what you have there is the British version of a Mercier Kilo TT...an inexpensive steel single speed. I've been commuting on one for years & all I've had to change after 3500 miles is brake pads, tires & the chain after they wore out. Not much can go wrong with these bikes so I can't say yours is a fair test.

A BSO is a clunky heavy crap bike from a cheap department store built up by some stocker in the back room that probably knows nothing about bikes. Get yourself one of those and come back in a couple years with a report ;-) you're playing it safe, pal...I'm not impressed.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7396/1...c1a47da9_c.jpg
aucdoc by (cobrabyte), on Flickr

That brings back a lot of memories from when I lived in the states.

Phil_gretz 11-13-13 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffpoulin (Post 16243475)
^^^ At least the forks are installed correctly. Half the BSOs I see around here have the forks installed backwards for some reason. I thought it was some kind of fad at first, but now I realize it was simply put together by someone who knows nothing about bicycles.

My wife and I were driving last weekend and waiting our turn at a stop sign. A girl rode across on what was obviously a department store cruiser bike. I said to my wife, "did you see that?" Sure enough, the fork had been installed backwards. I guess that it's a common problem?

As to whether the OP's bike is a BSO, I'd say that it's a matter of degrees. His original claim was that he was unable to find one much cheaper, so... his is close enough for the lighthearted purposes of discussion. Had he been able to find a Walmart Thruster equivalent in London, then everyone would be nodding in agreement on the BSO claim.

acidfast7 11-13-13 02:48 PM

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good weather today

stats:

388km/241mi
£395/$633 total
£1.02/km
€1.22/km
$2.63/mi

goal is to catch up to the ratios of bigbenaugust:

6900km/4287mi
£267/$438
3.8p/km
5c/km
10.2¢/mi

photo:

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=350593

edit: sorry photo is backwards (forgot flip photo)

acidfast7 11-13-13 02:50 PM

and a video for you as I'm off to CPH for 6 days:


in this video, you can understand why I go so often :D

noglider 11-13-13 03:12 PM

My God, that's heaven on earth. I want to move there where I grow up.

bigbenaugust 11-13-13 03:41 PM

mmmm, scandinavia.

PennyTheDog 11-13-13 03:50 PM

I'd think it was perfect if they didn't say hugge so much.

acidfast7 11-13-13 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by noglider (Post 16244104)
My God, that's heaven on earth. I want to move there where I grow up.

super nice. even the swede is impressed

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbenaugust (Post 16244185)
mmmm, scandinavia.

mmmmm.

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Originally Posted by PennyTheDog (Post 16244208)
I'd think it was perfect if they didn't say hugge so much.

that's kinda the point ... no real word exists in English ... just a loan word from German that I've never heard anyone say ... Gemültlichkeit ... like "lagom" in swedish where no English exists :)

and it's hygge

:D

noglider 11-13-13 04:25 PM

acidfast, where are you from, originally?

acidfast7 11-13-13 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by noglider (Post 16244289)
acidfast, where are you from, originally?

Wells, Maine, USA then
Orono, ME,
College Station, TX,
Stockholm, Sweden,
Frankfurt, Germany,
and now the UK (70%) / CPH (30%).

always looking through the new positions out ... seems to be a few good positions right now in Freiburg, Germany ... close to here:

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=350613

and my gf's parents in Baden-Württemberg

spare_wheel 11-13-13 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by acidfast7 (Post 16244263)
just a loan word from German that I've never heard anyone say ... Gemültlichkeit ... like "lagom" in swedish where no English exists :)

i think the usanian cognate is "hipster".


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