Although, this is quite irrelevant to my real world FGSS testing, I would love to see the US get its action together if not to drive the rest of the world to action ;)
confirmed ... bike has not exploded yet ... seems to be getting broken in ... must be the cones getting polished ... you can really feel the difference :)
Fixed gear bikes have maintenance problems of their own. Not that they keep me from riding fixed. It's just that fixed gear does not seem to be the most maintenance-free design. I'd have to guess it's SS (freewheel) or 3-speed. All that reverse torque can be hard on the rear hub and BB. Also, when something goes wrong on a FG, it can go very wrong, like when the chain jumps off. This can be attributed to bad maintenance, but no one does a perfect job, so spit happens.
Wow, 300 pounds is way outside my definition of a BSO. I have a $300 bike that I rode for 8 years/30,000 miles and is still in working order though is now semi-retired. When I think BSO I think more in the $100 range, something from a department store. I see some £150 and under bikes at Tesco.com - that would be more in the BSO category IMO.
Bikes are expensive in Europe.
Even the department store BSO can cost more than 150 euros ($200 US), and it's not easy to find good used one either, especially on a budget. Luckily there are online outlets located throughout Europe which have clearance sales and if you have the patients and time to search, you can find a great deal on a brand named bike.
I overestimated the ability of the average BF reader to understand that most prices in different countries don't directly convert between currencies.
Presenting the almost $45000 Golf GTI in Germany:
compared to $31000 Golf GTI in the USA:
Hint for the readers stuck on the cost of a BSO in the UK ... do the same math.
do they include more gestuff in the German version?
Like "Smart" cars have more options, Not the ones sold in the US , just Gasoline ,
and not that fuel efficient ... no hybrid or Diesel versions .
motor proportionally smaller with the GVW..
Have to agree with you acidfast7... :(
As for options, fietsbob, it depends on the markets being sold.
For instance, here in Greece, our cars are taxed on the displacement of the engines (!!!) so you'll have more options available for low displacement engines than other countries in Europe, and less higher displacement/upper end cars.
I have to agree with Acidfast7 and Telly on the high cost of living in Europe. For example, a movie ticket in Geneva, Switzerland costs the equivalent of $21. A sandwich in a restaurant can easily cost over $30 (just the sandwich, no drinks or fries or anything like that). Bikes, too, are very highly priced. A couple years ago, I saw a stock Surly LHT in a bike shop for 1395 euros (about $1900). These same bikes are about $1300 in the U.S. Trek, Specialized, Cannondale, etc are other brands that I see a lot here and the prices are typically 50% higher than in the U.S.
Now, I'm not sure if I'd go so far as to call a £300 bike (about $500) a BSO, but it would surely be a low-end bike.
That said, there is one thing that is cheaper here: bicycle tires. I have no trouble finding Marathon Supremes for under $40 at online shops in Germany. Same goes for other Schwalbe models. Continentals are cheap too, at least compared to prices I see advertised on U.S. sites. So, we've got cheap tires. Yay! :p
They are made where the rubber trees grow, and then shipped to distribution warehouses ..
those come to Bremerhaven , other brands Come to different POE, like in Seattle and LA.
the Greeks apparently got lots of ways around paying those taxes , at least the wealthier ones.
OP I was just thinking of this thread and your "BSO" I find it semi ironic you payed what you did for that, I recently built a fixed gear myself and my total costs came out to a bit less than what you paid, and this is what I got for my money.
also, we'll see which one lasts longer ... why don't you compete against my test bike in this thread :D
See http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post16147190 Every bike I bought in Germany for my family was far better for daily all weather commuting, as well as being less expensive in U.S $ equivalent, than the high priced so-called BSO bought by the O.P. He already has spent more time on maintenance just trying to get it into running order than I ever spent on maintenance of any the basic German bikes I own or ever did own.
Please, stop using DM prices, upon DM to € conversion most absolute prices went up roughly 50% (except at Aldi, which is why the brothers gained such an immediate and fast following).
Welcome to 2013 pricing.
But I will play your little game:
I'd take that in a heart beat over the issues I've seen with yours.
This Raleigh too!
Actually I simply brought up an ironic twist I thought you might appreciate, and then rather then being a spoil sport when you chose to react badly I responded rather directly with links to two bikes that cost less than yours and are better.. (and available in the UK)challenge accepted and bested. Lighten up Francis.
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Felt track specific lugged Cr-Mo w/1.125"" steerer and oversized Cr-Mo fork blades w/38mm offset
Felt TkR Pista Inspired in Italy cold forged aluminum crankset, w/144mm BCD, Skip-Tooth Hess 24T x 1/8"" Chainring, 51cm-56cm=165mm, 58cm-61cm=170mm, Track 15T fixed sprocket w/lock ring
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