First time this season I got yelled at due to my lights...I think.
I was called on to work late today causing me to ride home after dark first time since last Winter. I was running a 300 lumen Denotte tail light (pointed at the ground about 10 feet behind me on slow flashing - about one flash per second) and an old NightRider Newt, also about 300 lumen (pointed at the ground ten feet ahead of me) on a fairly obnoxious flashing mode. I don't usually run the flash mode after dusk but was traversing a fairly gnarly intersection and stretch of road nearby and I didn't feel like being cut off by crossing traffic running stop signs.
A car passed me, then merged into the bike lane ahead of me with his right blinker on. No problem so far. So I merge left into the auto traffic lane to go around him as he slows for his turn. As I passed he stopped mid turn and called me an A**hole as I went past on the driver's side. Other than my Blinding Light Show I have no clue. I even waited for a green light at the previous intersection. Hey...I am being seen. He didn't run over me. Guess that's a small victory. |
Maybe his brother was a geek you'd hunted, and he'd never been the same since!
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The tail lights and especially the headlights of a car exceed 300 lumens. I doubt the blinky light could be the issue... perhaps you are just an a$$hole? :lol:
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You were on a bicycle, that's all it takes for some people.
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Originally Posted by JoeyBike
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Hey...I am being seen. He didn't run over me. Guess that's a small victory.
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Originally Posted by Murray Missile
(Post 16145247)
You were on a bicycle, that's all it takes for some people.
In the drivers mind, you probably had "no right" to pass him on the left and should have cowered behind his car while he slowly made his turn. My guess would be he was trying to inconvenience you by forcing you to slow behind him while he turned, and when you decided to go around him instead, he got annoyed. Of course, i'm just speculating based on my personal experiences with bullys behind the wheel. Another common tactic from "assertive" drivers is to overtake you approaching a red light and then move so far over to the right that you are forced to wait at the light behind their car, sucking in those lovely axhaust fumes. Water off a ducks back as far as I'm concerned. They're the ones having a bad time, I ride for fun so I try not to fall into the trap of cars vs. bikes when I'm out cruising or commuting. |
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You know that it had nothing to do about your lights.
I run mine Level, to get the greatest distance forward and behind. http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=345045 |
You'll never know. Personally, I hate strobes, so perhaps that's what it was.
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If the strobe hit his rear view mirror, he may have interpreted it as you flashing your lights at him, the way angry cagers do.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Hairy Legs
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If the strobe hit his rear view mirror, he may have interpreted it as you flashing your lights at him, the way angry cagers do.
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Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
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You know that it had nothing to do about your lights.
I run mine Level, to get the greatest distance forward and behind. http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=345045 H |
300 lumens is not so bright. get one of those 1000 lumen XML lights from china, and then perhaps it will be due to the light.
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Originally Posted by cobrabyte
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My guess would be he was trying to inconvenience you by forcing you to slow behind him while he turned
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"As I passed he stopped mid turn and called me an A**hole as I went past on the driver's side."
I would be wondering, "How did he know?" |
Originally Posted by enigmaT120
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"As I passed he stopped mid turn and called me an A**hole as I went past on the driver's side."
I would be wondering, "How did he know?" I would have responded with a hearty "Thanks!!!". |
Originally Posted by cobrabyte
(Post 16145367)
In the drivers mind, you probably had "no right" to pass him on the left and should have cowered behind his car while he slowly made his turn. My guess would be he was trying to inconvenience you by forcing you to slow behind him while he turned, and when you decided to go around him instead, he got annoyed.
I have received negative feedback from my lights in the past. A pedestrian once yelled "F*** yo light!" and cyclists going the opposite way have informed me that the front light is rude. I usually cover it with my hand when cyclists approach UNLESS they are salmoning. Then I let them eat light. ...perhaps you are just an a$$hole? |
That driver was rudely jarred back into actively paying attention to the road thanks to your blinky rear light, which compelled him to put down his gold-tone iphone and stop reading that life-or-death horoscope text message that just came in. :twitchy:
So you've deprived him of his state of distracted autopilot bliss that compelled him to take a verbal jab at you. :mad: Next time, you should be mindful not to disturb those driving while in a zombie state of mind. His rude reaction to you is proof that zombies don't like to be disturbed from their stupor. That would also explain why he wanted to cut you off to get you to feel the same way as his disturbed state of being. Next time, have a heart for these wandering zombies, or start riding like one so they may leave you alone... At least, until one of them absentmindedly runs over you. :eek: ;) |
I doubt it was the lights. Mine are brighter than yours (not that that really means that much...) and I get many many more compliments about them. When people complain, it's usually because I'm there in the first place.
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I ride along the beach during summer on a bicycle/walk path. Unless I pointed the light uselessly down towards the ground, just a few feet in front of me, I'd get people making remarks about how it was blinding them. I totally agree. Every light that I own throws a glare up high. Having a car with factory installed HID headlights, and knowing that it has a very distinct cut off beam that prevents glare, I used some tape and covered the top half of a few of my lights. Immediately I noticed that the glare was substantially reduced just by standing at a distance and doing an A & B comparison. And now, when I'm out riding, I can point the light far, get great usable distance, and have absolutely no one complaining as I pass them. Someone in the lighting industry needs to address this. For now, cheap hockey tape does the trick for me.
EDIT: Just found out that there's a German standard for this in the way of something called StVZO compliant lights. |
I was in the traffic lane at dusk awhile back, and had my MiNewt 250 blinking. A ~10 year old boy poked his head out of the car in front of me and yelled "Turn you f***ing light off!".
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Originally Posted by Eric S.
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I was in the traffic lane at dusk awhile back, and had my MiNewt 250 blinking. A ~10 year old boy poked his head out of the car in front of me and yelled "Turn you f***ing light off!".
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I'm not a big fan of flashing lights. I can understand that some people's brains might be wired such as to not be annoyed by this, like some people can listen to fingernails on a chalkboard and not get the chills. Even if it doesn't freak you out, though, you still would not scratch chalkboards unless you are a jerk.
Rear blinkies are somewhat okay if they are relatively dull red lights, and I agree that is important that you are noticed from behind, but it needs to be a slow flash. Strobes are for raves, which are fine when you are inebriated with all sorts of chemicals. Not when you are sober. I am sure the OP is not meaning to be a jerk, but that doesn't mean that others don't perceive him as such for going around with an obnoxious light show in public. |
Tis better to be a live ******* than a dead one. I always keep both my taillight and headlight blinking.
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Originally Posted by walrus1
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Tis better to be a live ******* than a dead one. I always keep both my taillight and headlight blinking.
Incidents like this always remind me what a co-worker once told me. "If you're pissed off by me, that's your problem." |
Originally Posted by cobrabyte
(Post 16145367)
...Of course, I'm just speculating based on my personal experiences with bullys behind the wheel. Another common tactic from "assertive" drivers is to overtake you approaching a red light and then move so far over to the right that you are forced to wait at the light behind their car, sucking in those lovely axhaust fumes.
Water off a ducks back as far as I'm concerned. |
People honk and yell at me every so often for no other reason than 1) I am on a bike and 2) I am on the road with them.
God forbid that someone in a car be delayed for 15 seconds because of a bike! |
Originally Posted by JoeyBike
(Post 16148129)
I have received negative feedback from my lights in the past. A pedestrian once yelled "F*** yo light!" and cyclists going the opposite way have informed me that the front light is rude. I usually cover it with my hand when cyclists approach UNLESS they are salmoning. Then I let them eat light. Yes, but as others have mentioned...how did he know? Even the lovers hate bikes. |
I just had this happen to me this evening. I was leaving a supermarket around 7:00 PM when someone standing in the parking lot shouted at me saying "Thank you for using the light!" I had mine on in blinking mode. I'm not sure if he meant it or was sarcastic about the brightness. He sure was smiling...
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It's that time of the year here in Athens where everyone's frustrated by the fleeing good weather and -back to normal- post-summer work schedules.
This is the time I get yelled at most for just being on the road and delaying the drivers from arriving to work/home, even if the delay could be counted in seconds. Ride on; smile and wave and keep making your great vids Joey! BTW: you can never have too much lighting while commuting in the dark; that is, unless all traffic stops, drivers get out and kneel on the ground believing your lights are the second coming! :lol: |
Originally Posted by daihard
(Post 16151264)
This. :thumb:
Incidents like this always remind me what a co-worker once told me. "If you're pissed off by me, that's your problem." Riding a bicycle is not inherently a virtuous activity. It definitely is not so if it is at the expense of someone else's well being. The thing is, it usually is possible to ride a bicycle without hurting others. You just have to plan your route, keeping in mind the time of day and traffic patterns, and understand that is your responsibility to not put yourself in situations where there can be a high risk of being hit if you end up in a drivers blind spot. One must consider themselves invisible while riding, or in some cases, even having target on their back. It might not be fair to have to do so, but then life is not fair, and it never will be. Lastly, I am amazed at how much light can be put out by such small devices nowadays. There is a natural human tendency to want to exploit that power, and being a gadget geek I understand that. But it still doesn't absolve one of their duty to be good citizen and conscientious of others. Just because we may feel ostracized by society for our chosen hobby, doesn't mean we are now allowed to give society the bird. This seems so obvious to me, but I live in BFE flyover country, so maybe its just a cultural thing. |
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