I'm probably only alive because of my airzound horn. I think it has saved my life at least 3 times now and I *don't* ride dangerously. The first time it saved me I was walking my bike across a crosswalk at an intersection with a light telling me to cross. The driver of the car that almost hit me was staring at cross traffic and not paying attention to what was in front of him. The airzound got his attention and he ran off the road to avoid hitting me and hit one of the metal streetlamp poles.
chilling to watch
cycling is like baseball ~ it doesn't take much to make it interesting
People who look but dont see, dont see
Until policebikes (inc lights) dont get hit anymore, lights wont save you
the vast majority of cyclists do not have an airzound and yet somehow cycling is still safe. morover, the relatively small risk of injury or death is due to negligence and criminal behavior by motorists (and cyclists), not because cyclists fail to decorate themselves like christmas trees.
anyone who rides around central amsterdam at night will note many cyclists without bike lights. the same is also true in portland. safety is the primary responsibility of the people driving the killing machines, not their victims.
Last edited by spare_wheel; 10-14-13 at 05:41 PM. Reason: it's not only cagers...cyclists also have brain farts
If you can't see the cyclist because they are not properly visible, then I think you will find that it's a shared responsibility.
Do you know where his front light is/was mounted? Just asking because towards the end of the video I see the flashing, but it's also lighting up his forearms and the rear of his cable coming off the bars, so the light wasn't mounted on the handlebar? There's also a shadow cast on his right forearm, possibly from the handlebar... was the light pointing upwards? Makes me wonder whether the light was mounted such that it made it much less effective from the front.
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Glad the cyclist is OK. Brakes or no brakes, it wouldn't have helped in that situation. Clearly the motorist was at fault. One thing I would have done differently is take the entire lane, which was obviously "sharrowed". Being more out in the traffic lane would have made him more visible. (No guarantee of not getting hit, of course, but it does improve the odds, and gives a split second more reaction time to the biker.) There are sharrow lanes where I live, and I have found that "owning" the lane is very safe, otherwise cars will try to squeeze you as one car did at about 1:20 in the video. I have not done those sharrow lanes at night, and rarely ride at night, so can't say for sure on that. I do run a very bright flasher on the rear, and a very bright light on front (Steady at night, flash in the daylight)
Last edited by CommuteCommando; 10-14-13 at 01:54 PM.
As much as you paid for that Beemer [Mercedies, Audi, Escalade], I'm surprised it didn't come equipped with turn signals.
Why are so many of you such dicks? You expect this cyclist to blow his air horn while applying the brakes AND jump on the sidewalk to avoid the collission. Sure when you slow things down on youtube it's much easier to avoid this stuff. Try getting out and actually riding.
Blinkie tail light, though, is a BIG thing; I've had several drivers pull up next to me at stop signs and lights, and TELL me they were pleased that I had the light, they could SEE me!
[QUOTE=longbeachgary;16160669] You expect this cyclist to... applying the brakes AND/OR jump on the sidewalk to avoid the collission. QUOTE]
Um, well, I'd guess I'd say yes to that question. I think we all do this in some ways or others whether we're conscious of it or not - those of us who've been doing this for many decades anyway. Not saying that some very rare cases we have no options but... self preservation, ya know?
if you look you can clearly see he's got blinky lights because its shining on his forearm and brake cables. AND if you try to take it frame by frame right before/at impact, you can see the light shine very brightly on the back of the car right above the wheelwell/door handle level.
its not the cyclists fault. clearly the cars fault.
also, a cyclist who is wearing a camera during a ride is definitely the same kind of person who knows to have a bright light on the front.
stop *****ing and blaming the cyclist. guy knew what he was doing.
Explain then why we can see his shadow in front of him every time he rides under a street light or a car approaches from behind? My commuter light is much too bright to see my shadow in those cases.
I'm sure the cyclist knows plenty with the camera and all and maybe the crash was unavoidable. I'm just sayin' that light sure wasn't very bright.
this can be backed up by looking where the light hits the car just a split second before impact. it's pointed straight forward, not down.
I've had cars pull out in front of me, several crashes, so know what I'm talking about. One learns from one's mistakes if they live...
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Finally, it looks like the cyclist has a black or very dark shirt on. The accident occurs as he comes out of a very dark area (not a light) and the car pulls out in front of him and then the cyclist hits the car in the rear qtr panel. To me, it looks like the cyclist hit the car and not the car hitting the cyclist when I stepped through it frame by frame at the end. Would be interesting to see what the accident investigators come back with in terms of right of way etc...
I'd attribute this to poor visibility and would guess that as far as the collision goes, there would be blame assigned on both sides in some proportion depending on how precisely where the car is vis a vis in the intersection when/if the accident investigators get into it. It's not clear from the video's limited perspective.
Of course, the driver should not have driven off and will get appropriately nailed for that. That's the big hit in this incident.