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Old 10-19-13, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by caloso
I have alternate routes that add 1 to 30 miles to my most direct route. Variety is the spice of life.

This.......
Always looking to mix it up however I can.
Also, sometimes I am with my older kids, riding their own bikes. Sometimes pulling my younger two in trailer, tag along, weehoo igo. Safer, more protected routes w/ buffered lanes neighborhood/low speed streets, MUP, bikeways, etc., particularly when with my kids on their own bikes behind.
When on my own, oftentimes prefer to play in traffic, particularly in central areas/downtown where I can jam through congestion.
Always ride my pedicab in the midst of traffic downtown, university, central areas....

Also, route I choose depends on the bike I am riding.
My cyclocross and mtn commuter bikes allow different choices. Single track, rough double track, creek systems, and such.
Faster, smoother routes on the road bike.
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Originally Posted by prathmann
I suppose so, but I've encountered fewer honks and other harassment by motorists once I've used a given commute route a few times. I presume that I become expected as a regular feature of the commute and recognized as just another commuter rather than as an obstacle that's 'in their way.' Since I don't think I have any acquaintances who would go out of their way plotting to do me in, I figure the added safety of being an expected part of the traffic stream outweighs the risk.
Exactly. Has worked for me. As years go by, less and less horns and angry motorists - they all got used to "that crazy guy on the bicycle". Even the nervous lorry drivers know I will move out of their way on the first shoulder, bus stop etc, so they no longer honk their honrs and try to run me off the road, but patiently wait for they know I will move at first convenient spot.
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Originally Posted by sam21fire
As a basic security plan, though, I never ride or drive the same route at the same time two days in a row.
Secret Service detail won't allow it?
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When I was starting out as a commuter, I was varying routes to try and avoid killer hills and stuff. I also would make small on the fly detours to go around traffic or whatever as the commute was taking me a lot longer then (~1h20min compared to ~52-57min now). In the middle of the summer I was taking a route that had loads of traffic but was steady downhill and a straight line that cut off ~2km of my 22km commute. Now though I don't mind the extra little hills and the longer detour on the designated bike route.

In general now, I take the same route to/from work every day. It's the most direct bike route, and is actually pretty scenic with very few hairy traffic areas. It also has the nice bonus of the elevation peak in the middle going both ways. Lets me climb while I'm trying to warm up, and cruise downhill on the back end. I like the same route because I'm always racing against my own commute time, and against others on Strava segments. Also lets me compare my average/peak heart rates on the same ride from day to day.

That said though, on occasion I feel like doing a little extra hill climbing or taking a more scenic greenway route home. This usually adds anywhere from 2-10km, depending on the day. I haven't explored all my alternative options yet; primarily because I like my main route so much
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Over time, I tend to find an optimized route. Riding the same route, I know the potholes, the broken glass, when to pedal hard, when to relax and which lights can be beaten. A good route doesn't become tiring, because it is different every day. I don't have to think about navigation, so I can focus on basic road safety.

That said, I don't feel bound to a route and if I want to deviate, I do. Sometimes routes vary due to the seasons. In my last commute, in summer I could ride home through a beautiful city park. In winter, it was dark so I took a hillier, shorter route that was better lit.
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The only time my route changes is if I do any errands outside of my usual A to B. Unfortunately, I ride a very busy urban street with a large hill and no bike lane for the first 3 miles of my commute, then the last two miles has a bike lane (5 miles total, one-way). I also have to navigate a very large roundabout that has car accidents on what seems like a daily basis. The speed limit is 40 mph the whole way and my only other alternatives have me snaking through a very hilly and cul-de-sac-y residential area, more than doubling my commute time. I get buzzed all the time, I hate it. It's gotten me to the point where I almost don't even like cycling anymore but I have to put it in perspective. It's only because I'm riding on a busy street with a bunch or drivers that have no respect for cyclists...as if I don't have somewhere I need to be too.
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One added note. Where I live and commute (two different areas separated by a fifty mile train trip) have an abundance of safe bike routes. I like bike lanes, and most Bike Paths. My occasional 30 mile after work commute includes over 10 miles of bike path. On one five mile section I almost never take the parallel surface street. These bike paths have underpasses at major streets that by pass some horribly long traffic signals. The paths shave a minimum of five, and usually ten minutes off my time. I do occasionally run stop signs and stoplights, but running any of these at rush hour is insane.

Originally Posted by wphamilton
I've ridden my regular commute 1400 times according to my commute logging site so I'd be a hypocrite advise otherwise. I know everything about that route, where to expect water or debris, what the surface is going to be, where people are most likely to do something stupid, how crowded and who else will be there. There's something to be said for that.

But I do have alternate routes, high traffic, hills and stoplights that I'll take when the mood strikes me or I'm forced to for some reason. I think it's a good idea to become familiar with all the alternate routes on nice days, when you have good energy, so that you're ready when you need them and have no reservations about it when you just feel like the change. So ... every once in awhile I just come home a different way.
Two bike paths I avoid are in San Juan Capistrano. One runs through a park where the soccer moms like to set up their folding chairs and picnic baskets on the path. The other is through another park that is often crowded with tourists.

The San Diego Creek path in Irvine had a couple of spots where there a frequent conflicts with people doing stupid things. One section is near a high school where the cross country team is out in mass, paced by coaches on bikes who call out “watch for bike ahead” to no effect. I still get run off the road.

Another section runs behind the offices of Blizzard Entertainment, who publish World of Warcraft. They like their “creative people” to “commune with nature” on the bike path. About a dozen of these weaving along the path, texting or with cell phones glued to their ear are a frequent annoyance. Still, for all of that, they are still preferable to the street because I can get to speed, and hold it longer than I can on the street.
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Originally Posted by tariqa
I would think most people just ride whatever route is safer and faster.
Just a little hint: I've learned here not to take my opinion and project it to generalize "most people". There is far more variability between us--even restricted to only commuters--than meets the eye.
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Originally Posted by spivonious
Do you find different routes to drive your car?
I dunno. Should I buy one to find out?
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I changed job locations because I lived too close to work for an enjoyable ride. I'm much happier with my commute and the variety of routes I can use, now that I work across town.

As for safest and fastest, in my case, pick one.

I can zoom to work in 4.3 miles, if I want to deal with nothing but four and six lane city streets with no bike lanes, no sharrows, no shoulder, but with granite curbs and bonus bus stops instead. I use this route only as a last resort in winter. It's the first and best plowed.

Only two tenths longer, a round trip on the safest route has 47 stoplights or stop signs and a roundabout. I spend more time stopped than going. To make it less frustrating, I use it for "stoplight sprints" racing the cars.

The "hills, parks, cemetery and trails route" is twice the distance, but only ten minutes more "ride" time than the 47 stops one. When measured in "clock" time, it's the same. It's considerably more pleasant, and much more challenging. It's my second-favorite route.

My "long loop" starts by heading five miles in the "wrong" direction. At 16.5 miles, it's nearly four times longer than the fastest route. But it's my preferred route. Whenever conditions permit, it's the long loop. Coming home, I trim a little off each end to make it only 13 miles.

In the winter, both these latter two routes are largely impaassible. I have two alternate winter loops I use instead. One around nine miles, the other seven. They both use arterial streets, but fortunately, I work odd hours and miss most of the traffic.

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I think changing the route up depends on the individual. Can you get lost in the ride or do you need the variety? I have three basic routes I take, shortest, medium and I ride all three depending on how much time I have. Because my time varies I end up not riding the same route too many times in a row so the problem takes care of itself.

As far as safety goes, it depends on HOW much safer the long route is and HOW much longer the long route is.
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I like to mix things up since I find I tend to zone out if I'm bored of a route. I'll also look for route changes that add some specific training to my commute (climbing, distance, etc.)
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Rarely do i try and commute as fast as possible
i enjoy the ride ...
sometimes wind direction, weather affects my route
but usually i play it by ear
watch traffic etc as i go
almost always take a little different route home
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Originally Posted by acidfast7
Reccomended: as you now know the route and can avoid dangerous situations.
+1

I do the same route everyday. I learn new things about it everyday. I believe it contributes to safety.
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Originally Posted by wphamilton
I've ridden my regular commute 1400 times according to my commute logging site so I'd be a hypocrite advise otherwise. I know everything about that route, where to expect water or debris, what the surface is going to be, where people are most likely to do something stupid, how crowded and who else will be there. There's something to be said for that.

But I do have alternate routes, high traffic, hills and stoplights that I'll take when the mood strikes me or I'm forced to for some reason. I think it's a good idea to become familiar with all the alternate routes on nice days, when you have good energy, so that you're ready when you need them and have no reservations about it when you just feel like the change. So ... every
once in awhile I just come home a different way.
^ Agree.

I ride the same route most days. However, I have sampled a few alternates in order to have options if needed. For example, the rules posted at the local MUP/Greenway indicates that it is 'closed' after dark. I've been going through there before sunrise every day without incident. However, if it's ever really closed, I know how to go around.
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I ride the same route, for the most part, every day. It is longer than the shortest route to work but I take the longer routes for fitness. The route I used to ride now has 2 blocked sections because of construction so my new route is my "regular" route. It looks like winter will set in before construction is done so I'll not return to the old routes until the spring.
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I pretty much have only 2 choices between work and home, all rural roads connecting two towns. The 14.5 mile route has more climbing, and one spot that is relative nerve-racking with a sizable hill and only 2-lane with no shoulders... and truck traffic at 45+ MPH. When school is in, the traffic is also nuts near the office at 7:30 AM.

So when school is in session I take the other route which is 15.5 miles, but less climbing. Generally more relaxed of a ride as there are less areas of 2-lane high-traffic roads. I've been taking this route ever since school started back in August.

I really have no other choices unless I wanted to go many miles out of my way. But I'm already at 31 miles round trip so I really don't want to go any longer.
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Originally Posted by Sasquatch.
I hate riding the same way everyday, my morning commute to work is always the same but my way home is an adventure just waiting to happen. I am having to go way out of my way now to find different ways home.
Same here. The morning ride to work varies very little. But the afternoon ride home can vary quite a bit, especially when the weather is nice.
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Originally Posted by tariqa
Do you ride the same path everyday? If so what do you think about doing so. Do you think it becomes a chore or do you think it builds a better skill set by mastering one route instead of sampling a bunch?

In my opinion, I prefer riding the same route over and over because it makes the ride easier and easier until you dont even notice it is a routine. Almost second nature. I find that some people try to learn a bunch of different routes and that is good for backup routes so it is always good to learn all possible ways.

I would think most people just ride whatever route is safer and faster.. Anyone that disagree or agrees or both? Maybe riding the same route everyday dulls one senses to riding and changing up the routes makes one renewed??


Also do you think the faster route is worth it if it saves time but is more dangerous or the opposite?
The only real negative to riding the same route daily/regularly -- in addition to boredom potentially -- is that you will see diminishing returns from a fitness perspective because your body will not be pushed much physically, which will result in lower calorie burn and muscle gains. If you're in cycling for fitness, among other things, then that might be something to think about. If you view it as purely recreational, then it's not really much of a factor.
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Originally Posted by tariqa
What? Ride the same route at the same time? Doesnt make sense.



Also how much time do you save on the direct route? Is the direct route safe? If it is less safe route, do you feel you save that much more time or do you think it is safer to just go with the safer but longer route?
To clarify, I never start my rides at the same time each day (usually 5-20 minute difference) and/or never ride the exact same route two days in a row.

None of the routes I take are any safer or more dangerous than any others. My direct route takes about 45 minutes but I can add on as much as I want to that by taking different routes. Sometimes I just wander around exploring new roads and new areas. I've added up to 50 minutes on my ride home.

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Originally Posted by HydroG33r
Secret Service detail won't allow it?
LOL not that I'm aware of!
At the risk of sounding paranoid, you never know when some wackadoodle takes offense at a perceived heinous crime you've committed without being aware of it, and maybe this wackadoodle decides to see if you'll ride by at the same time tomorrow so he/she can "teach you a lesson". A 5-10 minute variance in your routine can make a difference.
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Originally Posted by sam21fire
LOL not that I'm aware of!
At the risk of sounding paranoid, you never know when some wackadoodle takes offense at a perceived heinous crime you've committed without being aware of it, and maybe this wackadoodle decides to see if you'll ride by at the same time tomorrow so he/she can "teach you a lesson". A 5-10 minute variance in your routine can make a difference.
Gotcha.
I'd be more worried if I were a good looking girl (I am neither).
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I always ride the same route, it's 27.4 kms (17miles) long with 1 or 2 dangerous zone. The second shortest route is about 38 kms (24miles) so I stick with my commute because I want to spend sometimes at home with the familly.
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I think the safest route is generally the better choice then the fastest route.

I have changed my route a number of times to try to learn the best route, but generally speaking I like consistency of the route and a routine for some aspects, such as charting my progress (new records on my climb, etc). There are a few areas where I alternate between different routes depending on traffic, tights, my mood, and how many tourists I expect to run into (I commute though some very heavily tourist areas with lots of tourists walking and on rental bikes in the afternoon) but most of these routes don't stray far form each other.

The once exception is there is a "scenic" route on the way home I take occasionally. One detour on the second half of my ride that adds some time and an extra climb, but has great views and actually has less car traffic. This give me some variety when the longer ride sounds better then getting home sooner.
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Originally Posted by sam21fire
LOL not that I'm aware of!
At the risk of sounding paranoid, you never know when some wackadoodle takes offense at a perceived heinous crime you've committed without being aware of it, and maybe this wackadoodle decides to see if you'll ride by at the same time tomorrow so he/she can "teach you a lesson". A 5-10 minute variance in your routine can make a difference.
If your that worried why not buy a car? Do you think that 5-10 min variance is really going to stop them? What if they simply followed you home and waited for you to leave?

Maybe I'm spoiled living in a rural Midwest town though...lol
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