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    Quote Originally Posted by acidfast7 View Post
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    I need help.

    I have an '89 Miele Azsora road bike with Shimano SLR single-pivot sidepulls and I'm unsure of what model of Kool Stop Salmon brake pads to get. I've looked at various websites and I'm a little overwhelmed with the number of KS brake pads available. Some are red, black, thin, long, etc. I really have no idea what I'm doing, but I do know that I would like to get some better brake pads to improve my braking performance and I'm willing to spend some money to do it. Also, I spoke with a sales rep. earlier today and he recommended I purchase these KS brake pads: KS Continental Salmon link. I use my bicycle for M-F commuting, 35-60mi rides on the weekend, and the occasional light tour. Here is a picture of my front brake if it helps at all:



    Thanks! I'm planning to re-cable, smooth my rims, and give my braking system a complete overhaul.
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    Anyone? I know I'm piggybacking the thread a little, but it's pretty relevant IMO! Please halps!

    I'm ready to order and get all my parts together so I can revamp my braking system this winter break.
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    Quote Originally Posted by treal512 View Post
    Anyone? I know I'm piggybacking the thread a little, but it's pretty relevant IMO! Please halps!

    I'm ready to order and get all my parts together so I can revamp my braking system this winter break.
    Look like your using road calipers, only one size fits.
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    I disagree. I think the Continentals are just what the doctor ordered.
    You don't read my signature anyway, do you?

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    if you ride under wet grimy conditions koolstop salmon pads grind down rims just as fast as any other pad. in fact, i switched to disc brakes in '06 because i was effing tired of buying new wheels every 2 years or so. (i exclusively used kool stop salmon and still have them on the back wheel of my "B" commuter)
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    Quote Originally Posted by noglider View Post
    I disagree. I think the Continentals are just what the doctor ordered.
    Thanks for the feedback. So the Continentals would work and are good for me? I am getting the impression that these are the only Salmons that I can use with my particular brake caliper. Is this true? I ask because I'm somewhat interested in the dual compound pads, but don't mind getting the Continentals. I just want to know what my options are. Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by spare_wheel View Post
    if you ride under wet grimy conditions koolstop salmon pads grind down rims just as fast as any other pad. in fact, i switched to disc brakes in '06 because i was effing tired of buying new wheels every 2 years or so. (i exclusively used kool stop salmon and still have them on the back wheel of my "B" commuter)
    Maybe, but can any traditional brake pad avoid this phenomenon? I don't think anyone is against disc brakes, but are you suggesting that all commuters ditch their pad braking bicycles and buy disc braking bicycles?
    Last edited by treal512; 11-22-13 at 05:02 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by treal512 View Post
    So the Continentals would work and are good for me? I am getting the impression that these are the only Salmons that I can use with my particular brake caliper. Is this true? I ask because I'm somewhat interested in the dual compound pads, but don't mind getting the Continentals. I just want to know what my options are.
    The long pads are for V/canti brakes;they would hit the inside of the fork legs and prevent you from properly opening the brake if you tried to use them on your sidepulls. Pretty sure you could also use these if you wanted to go with cartridges.

    Quote Originally Posted by treal512 View Post
    Maybe, but can any traditional brake pad avoid this phenomenon?
    Nope. Rim brakes wear your rims,how fast is determined by riding conditions,rim thickness,and pad material.

    Quote Originally Posted by treal512 View Post
    I don't think anyone is against disc brakes, but are you suggesting that all commuters ditch their pad braking bicycles and buy disc braking bicycles?
    Sure,why not?

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    The best of the best...

    Kool-Stop Dual Compound Mountain Pads for Linear Pull Brakes Threaded

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    I can't say for sure what will or won't fit. You could try. I haven't noticed differences between the various compounds, but I like them very much. Kool Stop are the only brand I buy.
    You don't read my signature anyway, do you?

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    I use my Sentiero that has disc brakes.
    Have Koolstop, salmon's(rear)/dual compound(front) on my road bikes,used mostly in dry conditions. Salmons are nice but soft, so they wear faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lain View Post
    The best of the best...

    Kool-Stop Dual Compound Mountain Pads for Linear Pull Brakes Threaded

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    Quote Originally Posted by treal512 View Post
    Maybe, but can any traditional brake pad avoid this phenomenon?
    just responding to the prevailing mythology that ks salmons do not do cause rim wear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dynaryder View Post
    The long pads are for V/canti brakes;they would hit the inside of the fork legs and prevent you from properly opening the brake if you tried to use them on your sidepulls.
    Did you see the pic in post 27? Good chance those won't work right.

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    http://www.mec.ca/product/5024-726/k...012&f=10+50138

    Road caliper...


    Quote Originally Posted by treal512 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by dynaryder View Post
    Did you see the pic in post 27? Good chance those won't work right.
    My bad, didn't remember about the road calipers, but Kool-Stop pads are the bomb, I'd go with the dual compound for all weather conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slcbob View Post
    I prefer discs and don't always use rim brakes in the wet, but when I do, I prefer Koolstop Salmon.
    +1
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    Thanks for all the help guys. Just wanted to show you all what I got!



    I'll be tuning up my whole braking system this winter break once finals are over. I'm super stoked about it!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by treal512 View Post
    Thanks for all the help guys. Just wanted to show you all what I got!



    I'll be tuning up my whole braking system this winter break once finals are over. I'm super stoked about it!!


    Good luck with your finals!
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    The advantage of the continental is the straight forward, stud and nut fitting.
    but buy-ing the upscale replaceable insert pad and holder combo is OK too,

    wear that down and you just have to get the rubber insert , next time..

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    Nice thing is that package comes with spares.
    He/she won't have to worry about buying replacements for a while.
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    Those shoes come with dual compound and salmon pads. You get to try them both first hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Ryder View Post


    Good luck with your finals!
    Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    The advantage of the continental is the straight forward, stud and nut fitting.
    but buy-ing the upscale replaceable insert pad and holder combo is OK too,

    wear that down and you just have to get the rubber insert , next time..
    I'm sure the Continentals would have been fine, but the dual compound pad combination really did it for me. Plus I don't mind properly dialing in the new pads. I've never done brake work before either, so it should prove relatively challenging and rewarding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Ryder View Post
    Nice thing is that package comes with spares.
    He/she won't have to worry about buying replacements for a while.
    Hopefully the full Salmon pads brake as well as the combos. Worst case I'll put the Salmons on the rear caliper and continue to buy combo pad replacements for the front.

    Quote Originally Posted by gregjones View Post
    Those shoes come with dual compound and salmon pads. You get to try them both first hand.
    Good idea. Maybe I'll go back and forth a little to see how they hold up
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    They'll fit, & its simple to install these guys, just plug, & play.
    I use the dual compound up front, & the salmons in the rear.
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