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    Rule# -
    No matter how well lit or brightly dressed you are, don't assume everyone is paying attention to their surroundings, they're not. Ride defensively when encountering a car at night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGoodLeg View Post
    Rule# -
    No matter how well lit or brightly dressed you are, don't assume everyone is paying attention to their surroundings, they're not. Ride defensively when encountering a car at night.
    Good one. I forgot one of my own, similar rules that I enunciated (to myself) about 20 years ago, "Make yourself as visible as possible, and assume that no one sees you."

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    I'd add.... If you see a fellow commuter down with mech trouble, slow down and ask if they need any help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimokimo View Post
    I'd add.... If you see a fellow commuter down with mech trouble, slow down and ask if they need any help.
    +1
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    Quote Originally Posted by kimokimo View Post
    I'd add.... If you see a fellow commuter down with mech trouble, slow down and ask if they need any help.
    I even do that for the roadies out in the morning when I'm making my way home from work!

    They have yet to admit to needing help from a lowly commuter, even when there were two of them pulled over together apparently scratching their heads about whatever problem one of them was having as I approached!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medic Zero View Post
    I even do that for the roadies out in the morning when I'm making my way home from work!

    They have yet to admit to needing help from a lowly commuter, even when there were two of them pulled over together apparently scratching their heads about whatever problem one of them was having as I approached!
    You think taking help from a commuter is bad? What about a commuting 'bent rider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cplager View Post
    You think taking help from a commuter is bad? What about a commuting 'bent rider.
    Point taken!

    I imagine they find side streets to slink home, walking their bikes instead!

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    Updates added. Starting to look like a good list.
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    Rule #12 - Velominati
    The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    While the minimum number of bikes one should own is three, the correct number is n+1, where n is the number of bikes currently owned. This equation may also be re-written as s-1, where s is the number of bikes owned that would result in separation from your partner.
    I'm not buying the alternate equation.

    If s is defined by the existence of partner p, then for n>=s, the commutinati is bound to define p2. The theoretical upper limit, q, is determined by a far more rigorous and complex equation involving the differentials of square footage in the garage and a fractional of the living room, relative to annual income normalized by the current commodity market prices of green arabica, west brent crude, and an annual Rails to Trails membership. In practice, as s approaches 0, q approaches too hard to bother with so p <-- p2 and the whole equation is simplified again to n+1.

    s-1 is like dividing by 0. It is undefined for the commutinati.
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    We need a rule for the cheers and jeers. The jeers are generally spontaneous outbursts reflecting the confines and limitations of motor vehicles, hence are non-sentient, impersonal and to be ignored. Cheers, obviously, are sincere expressions of respect and admiration for the commuter personally.

    And one cycling tactic that deserves to be a rule, if not a law. Never should a commuter position himself to the right of a long vehicle in a right turn lane or in any lane in which the vehicle might turn right.

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    ...if I may add my little bit here:

    Rule # xx

    In the eventuality of a fall, the most expensive, hard to find, impossible to tune component/add-on is always going to be the first thing broken, while the cheapest of the cheap, bargain basement, bought in a basket, components/add-on's will never have any damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by surfjimc View Post
    Rule #??
    Large vehicles taking up to much roadway are not threats, but opportunities to draft and improve personal best times to work.
    Yeah, my latest commute route does not have nearly enough oversize vehicles operating at 20ish MPH. My old route had plenty along a 6-mile stretch and sometimes would even tempt me to wait at a red light to keep my "tow". There is nothing like whizzing along at near 25 mph effortlessly for five or six miles and arriving in the city grid rested and ready to run lights and split lanes the rest of the way in.

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    Up to 17 solid Rules. I'm surprised at the lack of controversy. It seems the Velominati have spent quite a bit of time debating whether the use of a small saddle bag is a violation of the rules. Are the Commutinati just better at achieving a consensus?
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    We don't seem to be very insistent about conformity and fashion. More about not caring than skill at reaching a consensus. Perhaps that's worthy of a negative rule?

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    As I was commuting this dark, torrential rain-swept, and leaf-strewn ride this morning, I recalled this rule for your consideration:

    “If you cannot directly see the Road surface (due to a reflecting puddle, a pile of leaves, or whatever), a pothole may lurk.”

    I learned this rule from two misfortunes, one personal, and one vicarious but fatal. It’s a specific corollary to Jim’s Law of the Road, Commutinati Rule #3a, and another argument to use a rearview mirror.

    Another wet weather aphorism is “Watch out for wet painted Road markings,” perhaps not worthy of a Rule, but a good admonition IMO.

    PS: Re Rule #1 :

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldPax View Post
    We are the Commutinati and these are the Rules.
    Rule #1 - Velominati
    If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Fair-weather riding is a luxury reserved for Sunday afternoons and wide boulevards. Those who ride in foul weather be it cold, wet, or inordinately hot are members of a special club of riders who, on the morning of a big ride, pull back the curtain to check the weather and, upon seeing rain falling from the skies, allow a wry smile to spread across their face. This is a rider who loves the work.
    The last time I rode in such a drenching rain, about two years ago, I got so wet that I developed a presumed blister and subsequent abscess, “down there,” and was off the bike for two weeks. So if you ride in bad weather you may be a badass in more ways than one.

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    Rule # ___

    As shared by my co-worker and fellow commuter James P., in praise of fenders for city bikes:

    That puddle? It's urine. ALWAYS ASSUME IT IS URINE.

    Probably also hiding a pothole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorldPax View Post
    We are the Commutinati and these are the Rules.

    Rule #1- Velominati
    If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Fair-weather riding is a luxury reserved for Sunday afternoons and wide boulevards. Those who ride in foul weather be it cold, wet, or inordinately hot are members of a special club of riders who, on the morning of a big ride, pull back the curtain to check the weather and, upon seeing rain falling from the skies, allow a wry smile to spread across their face. This is a rider who loves the work.
    To better characterize a baddass cold ride, I would offer this definition from the Winter Cycling Forum: One on which your water bottle freezes solid---a function of temperature and distance (time). For my 14 mile one-way ride, it happens at about 15* F and below.
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    what will the minimum number of rides per week be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperventilate View Post
    what will the minimum number of rides per week be?
    Might be better to phrase it in terms of why you'd resort to anything but riding a bike -- like you only have one (for shame!) and something broke that is beyond your fixing, or if you must do other errands during the day that preclude riding a bike.
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    Since these Rules are to be a Complete Compendium to Keep Cyclists Safe, I would like to amend this proposed Rule:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
    “If you cannot directly see the Road surface (due to a reflecting puddle, a pile of leaves, or whatever), a pothole may lurk.”
    I was prompted by this post, and my reply:

    Quote Originally Posted by NOS88 View Post
    This is the second time I've seen this happen in the last several years. A young woman was riding through about 15 feet of 3 to 4 inch deep water, and didn't know there was a sheet of ice under it. Front wheel started to slide and down she went….So, for those of us in colder climates, watch riding through those big puddles!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
    Just this past Saturday while walking, my daughter slipped on ice at the bottom of a puddle about 1-2 inches deep.

    Quote Originally Posted by mprelaw View Post
    That's why riding through standing water isn't ever a good idea, even when it's 90. Potholes and other hidden road defects under the water.
    So I recommend adding this clause:

    “Even if you can see the road surface at the bottom of a puddle, at freezing temperatures and especially without studded tires, it’s best to avoid all puddles.”
    Last edited by Jim from Boston; 02-22-14 at 06:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
    To better characterize a baddass cold ride, I would offer this definition from the Winter Cycling Forum: One on which your water bottle freezes solid---a function of temperature and distance (time). For my 14 mile one-way ride, it happens at about 15* F and below.
    Hmm. I never had this problem on rides, but I spent a winter in a drafty home with broken-out windows and a malfunctioning heater near the base of Mt Shasta. If I left any water in cups or bottles in my bedroom (as in a water bottle on my bike) it'd be frozen solid when I woke up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
    To better characterize a baddass cold ride, I would offer this definition from the Winter Cycling Forum: One on which your water bottle freezes solid---a function of temperature and distance (time). For my 14 mile one-way ride, it happens at about 15* F and below

    Quote Originally Posted by Saving Hawaii View Post
    Hmm. I never had this problem on rides, but I spent a winter in a drafty home with broken-out windows and a malfunctioning heater near the base of Mt Shasta. If I left any water in cups or bottles in my bedroom (as in a water bottle on my bike) it'd be frozen solid when I woke up.
    I have proposed this definition of a cold, “badass” ride on several different threads about winter riding, in particular those involved with eyewear to prevent fogging. Many subscribers enthusiastically endorse their solutions with no particular reference to their riding conditions, mainly temperatures and distance (time). So the time spent on the Road necessary to freeze a water bottle solid is a function of those two variables, and IMO defines a cold ride.

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