I'm kind of in the same boat as you. I'm coming back from a knee injury and looking at what I want my new commuter to be. I want something capable of keeping up on the weekend rides. Yet something that can take a rack, panniers, and at least 28 tires for commuting.
I'm pretty much settled on the Giant Defy line up. I'd stick with Aluminum, although you can get a carbon model in that price range. (I don't think the carbon models are rack/fender ready) The Aluminum frame has rack mounts, and I know they have Defy specific fenders from Giant, http://www2.giant-bicycles.com/en-pa...ies/338/28915/ http://www.giant-bicycles.com/_gener...FY_1_BLACK.jpg -Giant's Aluxx SL is probably some of the best aluminum in the business. The Defy rides like a dream, and is more than light enough. -Shimano 105, nuff said -rack + Fenders -looks sexy |
Originally Posted by Rhodabike
(Post 16261700)
How about the Cannondale CaadX (105 version)? It's a 'cross bike, but with road tires would easily be light enough for road use. And it has rack and fender eyelets.
Originally Posted by big chainring
(Post 16261728)
Just looked at a Raleigh RX 2.0 at Skunk River Cycles in Ames IA. Metallic orange. Looks and rides awesome. Its a cyclo-cross bike. Great all round bike. I like fat tires for a smooth shock absorbing ride. Worth a look.
http://c417289.r89.cf1.rackcdn.com/2...rium-Green.jpg
Originally Posted by Phil_gretz
(Post 16261982)
What about the Raleigh Record Ace? Seems to match many of your desirements.
Originally Posted by dynaryder
(Post 16263860)
I actually have to say they're kinda crap. Test rode one at REI. Heavy;yes,I know it's steel,but it's still heavy for a steel road bike. No rack or fender mounts,and not much room to go beyond 25's. Not sure what Raleigh was going for. They're too heavy for competition,don't have mounts or clearance for commuter equipment,and the styling is wonky with modern brifters/cranks on a classic frame. Friend of mine has a Bianchi Vigorelli,which is a much nicer bike,and has rack/fender mounts.
Originally Posted by agent pombero
(Post 16264350)
Surly Straggler.
Thanks for the suggestions folks! Keep them coming! I'm still moving towards separate bikes for separate duties, rather than the do-it-all bike (which is basically what I have now). Suggestions for lightweight road bikes that bring joy to the hearts of horizontal-top-tubing loving retrogrouches - yet use modern materials? Compact frames with steeply sloping top tubes just look less beautiful in my eyes. |
Maybe aluminum, but with horizontal top tube, is where I should go. I doubt that anyone does aluminum better than Cannondale. Supposedly they have come along way from the bone-shaker frames of yesteryear.
CAAD10 with Shimano 105. Aluminum frame. Carbon fork. No sloping top tubes (per my irrational aesthetic preference). Less gobbed up in logos than many bikes (though still fewer/smaller logos would be even better). http://media.cannondale.com/media/ca...X5C_rep_27.png |
sorry to "butt in", but those last two bikes are hideous.
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Originally Posted by acidfast7
(Post 16265343)
sorry to "butt in", but those last two bikes are hideous.
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sorry to "butt in", but those last two bikes are hideous. af7 has such taste in paint colors on his BSO choice, I note: few cars on NASCAR tracks are green .. US auto racing has a old phobia about green cars |
that Masi is hot as hell. the cannondale is not. i don't see rack mounts on that giant - unless you're referring to what looks like a built on p-clamp at the bottom of the seatpost.
i'm getting a cross-check soon for a do everything bike. might be a little heavier than you want. but with your budget i would suggest All-City Spacehorse and call it a day. sold. |
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
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It's not easy being green :innocent:
af7 has such taste in paint colors on his BSO choice, I note: I do like colour, and a lot of it, but I always don't like it interrupted by text ... perhaps it's my time in Scandiland ... no text where one expects it ... text where one doesn't expect it ... for example, i'm in the process of setting up my office space at the uni in a similar manner to this ... and the "facilities" guys are not excited at all about hanging the individual shelving spaces ... :lol: ... in this case I want the absence of colour as I don't want to be artificially influenced when working. on my bike, i like lots of colours ... but solid and reasonable. the two above bikes really look like a NASCAR car. http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=351868 |
What about a Specialized Tricross? http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bik...oss-elite-disc :-P
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Pedalforce Cyclocross frame
http://pedalforce.com/online/product...ducts_id=21005 Build up with the groupset of your choice. May wind up being a little pricey, but you get a full carbon frame that will accept wide tires, places to mount a rack, etc. I'd build with good dual pivot brakes for better braking. It would restrict tire sizing to 28mm or less, but as a primary road bike that's not an issue. Honestly, the bike you're asking for is basically a cycling no man's land. If you want a frame with eyelets, you primarily going to be in the mid-tier Al frames, (<$1500). Moving up would get you a lighter frame and components but you'll lose the ability to mount a rack. My advice, decide what you want the bike to be. An everyday commuter bike with rack, lights, etc. Or a weekend fun ride that you want to keep as stripped down as possible. You could always get a mid-tier Al frame and then put a nice groupset on, then add a rack later if needed. |
Originally Posted by the sci guy
(Post 16265676)
that Masi is hot as hell. the cannondale is not. i don't see rack mounts on that giant - unless you're referring to what looks like a built on p-clamp at the bottom of the seatpost.
i'm getting a cross-check soon for a do everything bike. might be a little heavier than you want. but with your budget i would suggest All-City Spacehorse and call it a day. sold. My wife justifiably says I'm a retrogrouch. Surely other folks have a taste for "go fast" bikes with simple, classy paint jobs and without oversized logos, but it must be a vanishingly small portion of the market based on what ends up in bike shops these days. Don't get me wrong, a lot of older bikes are similarly gaudy, but I feel like there was a more balanced distribution. Mr. Pink http://www.pedalroom.com/p/all-city-mr-pink-10049_2.jpg |
Originally Posted by TrackSmart
(Post 16267195)
Yes, the Masi is a beauty. Anything out there that is both beautiful and falls into the "thoroughly modern" category? While I think acidfast7 is over the top in his critique, I agree that it is almost impossible to find a nicely painted bike that isn't plastered in logos. There is a reason why I started at the Mr. Pink. Just a single, tastefully done logo and a simple, classy paint job.
My wife justifiably says I'm a retrogrouch. Surely other folks have a taste for "go fast" bikes with simple, classy paint jobs and without oversized logos, but it must be a vanishingly small portion of the market based on what ends up in bike shops these days. Don't get me wrong, a lot of older bikes are similarly gaudy, but I feel like there was a more balanced distribution. Mr. Pink http://www.pedalroom.com/p/all-city-mr-pink-10049_2.jpg I love the All Citys for that reason as well. simple yet a paint style that pops. does the Mr. Pink have rack mounts though? Space Horse has braze ons for rear rack. |
Originally Posted by TrackSmart
(Post 16267195)
While I think acidfast7 is over the top in his critique, [/IMG]
I would definitely ask what position you were in if you rolled by :) |
Originally Posted by acidfast7
(Post 16267963)
To be fair to my critique, the CAAD does provide "10" at least 10 times in huge text on the bike ... which is actually more than a NASCAR car.
I would definitely ask what position you were in if you rolled by :) So where's the non-NASCAR version of the modern bike? Maybe it only exists as a custom-painted bike with titanium or Reynolds 853? Specially made for retrogrouches who can appreciate the value of such a thing ($3-$4k). If that is the case, I'll crawl back into my retrogrouch cave and take one of those off-the-shelf, taiwan-mass-produced, 4130-steel bikes with me. Maybe an All-City of some variety. And declare that steel really *is* real, even the lower-end versions of it. And that no "modern wonder bike" can match it - even if material science proves otherwise. And that, science be darned, I like the paint job on that one! It would be kind of like the Dr. Seuss story of Green Eggs and Ham, but for someone who didn't get the point of the story. Like a certain filibustering US politician. [But let's not devolve into politics here - just bikes.] |
Originally Posted by TrackSmart
(Post 16268148)
I definitely laughed out loud when I read this. Thanks for that!
So where's the non-NASCAR version of the modern bike? Maybe it only exists as a custom-painted bike with titanium or Reynolds 853? Specially made for retrogrouches who can appreciate the value of such a thing ($3-$4k). If that is the case, I'll crawl back into my retrogrouch cave and take one of those off-the-shelf, taiwan-mass-produced, 4130-steel bikes with me. Maybe an All-City of some variety. And declare that steel really *is* real, even the lower-end versions of it. And that no "modern wonder bike" can match it - even if material science proves otherwise. And that, science be darned, I like the paint job on that one! It would be kind of like the Dr. Seuss story of Green Eggs and Ham, but for someone who didn't get the point of the story. Like a certain filibustering US politician. [But let's not devolve into politics here - just bikes.] http://www.en.tout-terrain.de/bicycles/ http://www.fahrradmanufaktur.de/kata...tegory&path=13 http://www.koga.com/koga_uk edit: also, i think your slightly over-hyping the minimal difference between 853 and 4130. |
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not what you're precisely looking for ... but this leans more in my direction
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=352011 |
Surly Pacer
http://surlybikes.com//uploads/bikes...sv_930x390.jpg Soma Smoothie/Stanyan frame, LBS mid-level (105) build: http://www.somafab.com/wp-content/up...e_ss_1_700.jpg http://www.somafab.com/wp-content/up...00-370x300.jpg http://www.somafab.com/wp-content/up..._white2010.jpg Guunar frame, local build: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7227/7...561bd51e_z.jpg http://gunnarbikes.com/site/wp-conte...1-1024x632.jpg |
Originally Posted by TrackSmart
(Post 16268148)
So where's the non-NASCAR version of the modern bike? Maybe it only exists as a custom-painted bike with titanium or Reynolds 853? Specially made for retrogrouches who can appreciate the value of such a thing ($3-$4k). If that is the case, I'll crawl back into my retrogrouch cave and take one of those off-the-shelf, taiwan-mass-produced, 4130-steel bikes with me.
I really like the matching/parallel chrome seat/headtubes on that Masi, but I agree it would look better if the decal scheme were rolled back a bit to be less busy. Somewhere on the forums recently I ran across a small brand that had some really nice looking graphic design, their logo was not just a word applied on a tube in the direction the tube happened to be going, but an oversize brand name that was placed at an oblique angle and spilled I think from the downtube to the headtube. Or maybe top&head. It looked pretty cool; eye-catching, but confident rather than frantic or busy. Unfortunately I can't remember the brand in question!! Maybe this rings some bells with somebody else? |
Originally Posted by acidfast7
(Post 16268229)
not what you're precisely looking for ... but this leans more in my direction
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=352011 |
Originally Posted by RubeRad
(Post 16268506)
Hey look, fenders! Or one fender anyways. Or maybe 0.1 fenders...
i did find that midget fender "cute" tho |
Originally Posted by AlTheKiller
(Post 16264991)
I'm kind of in the same boat as you. I'm coming back from a knee injury and looking at what I want my new commuter to be. I want something capable of keeping up on the weekend rides. Yet something that can take a rack, panniers, and at least 28 tires for commuting.
in fact, just the other day i saw a specialized s-works tarmac with rack and full coverage split fenders. hilarious. |
Whatever you get - consider shopping year end or last years - closeout models. I got my $2500+ Giant TCR C1 w/ full Ultegra, out the door, including tax for $1500. This was because I bought a 2012 model, well after the 2013's were available.
So if you're patient, you can literally get your dream bike, and all the bells and whistles, well within your budget. I was originally looking at a CAAD10 w/ 105 for $1300-1500ish. But sometimes, the closeout prices are amazing. I got way more than I thought was in my budget. Be patient, deals are out there. |
Originally Posted by joshuatrio
(Post 16268904)
Whatever you get - consider shopping year end or last years - closeout models. I got my $2500+ Giant TCR C1 w/ full Ultegra, out the door, including tax for $1500. This was because I bought a 2012 model, well after the 2013's were available.
So if you're patient, you can literally get your dream bike, and all the bells and whistles, well within your budget. I was originally looking at a CAAD10 w/ 105 for $1300-1500ish. But sometimes, the closeout prices are amazing. I got way more than I thought was in my budget. Be patient, deals are out there. I actually called around to the nearest Cannondale dealers in the area seeing what they had for previous year's models. This seems like the best deal of the bunch and has a shockingly simple paint job. Apparently 2012 was a year of restraint for Cannondale. At least for this one model. Ultegra drivetrain and brakes (but not the the crank). About $1900. I guess they just can't sell a bike with a simple paint scheme, even after 2 years, when even the 2013's are all cleared out. I find that pretty amusing. :-) http://media.cannondale.com/media/ca...ax3c_wht_9.png |
Or , people just dont buy race bikes at that price level, or just were needing another size.
dont read too much into other's choices. Out here Elk Hunters Buy Mountain bikes . LBS stocks handle-bar mounts for Bow and Rifle. summer is Busy with Cycletourists from across the country and other lands. |
I agree with you about giant's decal stuff being atrocious. If the tcx slr 2 had a less racy scheme I'd be all over it.
Horizontal top tube, plenty of clearance, rack mounts, full 105, decent mechanical disk brakes, aluxx slr aluminum with carbon fork/post. These bikes are fun as hell. http://cdn.media.cyclingnews.com/201..._slr_2_670.jpg |
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