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    B&M luxos u headlight fails after 1 ride in the rain

    I've had this light since march and its performed adequately. The beam is nice and bright and has a good spread for sure...but the charging feature is not all its cracked up to be..won't keep up with my s4 atall. Add to that apperantly its only for dry conditions(its not like it wss pouring and I have a bike poncho the partially covered it) and this light gets a total fail from me.
    I expected a lot more from a light at this price point. I've contacted peterwhitecycles about the problem and ill let you guys know how they respond.

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    Are you sure that the issue is not of some wire disconnected? We have a variety of B&M lights on various bikes, though not Luxos, and rather commonly ride in rain, but have not suffered from their light going out due to rain (there was one old model that was getting fogged). On the other hand, hectic actions during rain can lead to a cable being pulled.

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    Nah its not a cable and a google search will show I'm not the only one who's experienced this. Right now it blinks on and off and won't turn off till the battery dies. The toplight tailight is fine. I know b&m have a gd reputation but this light isn't up to par.

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    Hmm, well I've shopped a lot lower on the B&M food chain

    have a Lyt BN for my Brompton. lacks a Stand light ,

    waiting a shipment of the Eyc, to upgrade It.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psy View Post
    I've had this light since march and its performed adequately. The beam is nice and bright and has a good spread for sure...but the charging feature is not all its cracked up to be..won't keep up with my s4 atall. Add to that apperantly its only for dry conditions(its not like it wss pouring and I have a bike poncho the partially covered it) and this light gets a total fail from me.
    I expected a lot more from a light at this price point. I've contacted peterwhitecycles about the problem and ill let you guys know how they respond.
    I wanted to get one, but after reading negative reports like yours, I've decided against it. Thanks for sharing this. You've done a service to others who might be considering purchasing one.

    Please do let us know how Peter White Cycles deals with this.
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    I'd seen the report at bentrideronline when I got mine. The guy has no front fender and the spray was being shot off the wheel into the vent hole on the bottom of the Luxos.

    I have fenders on my commuters, but I put electrical tape over the vent hole anyway. Thus far, no problem.

    Where I do expect problems someday is with the cover on the USB port. I don't use USB gizmos, but due to the nature of my installation, the switch on the back of the light is next to impossible to use. Every now and again I find the USB port cover has come off for no apparant reason. It's only a matter of time before it comes off in the rain. I'm also not so keen on where the handlebar switch/USB port plugs into the jack on the light. Nothing at all to seal it there.

    Yesterday I was winterizing and had both the bike taken apart and the Shoe Goo in my hand to use on my boots. I briefly entertained the idea of Shoe Gooing the Luxos, "Only three dabs will fix it forever", I thought, but the words "void your warranty" flashed thorugh my head and I left well enough alone.

    Otherwise, I've come to terms with the beam pattern, but I don't really care for it. The wide part is nice, but the main part of the beam is too thin vertically. It makes a stripe of light. Aiming it up hoping to spread the stripe out is ineffective, revealing the limited "throw" of the design. I've just decided that if I'm planning on speeds over 13-15 mph, I should use the bike with the Edelux instead.

    One thing I do like--a lot--about the Luxos is its daytime running light mode.

    OTOH, the much touted "low speed panorama" mode is useless. I never ride slow enough for it to come on except for a brief flash when I stop, and again when I start up. I got a flat the other night and walked the bike a couple of hundred yards. That was too slow for the panorama mode. It seems like 6 or 7 mph is the only time it works.

    Meanwhile, I'm waiting to see what the Edelux II is like. In most respects, I'm happier with the original Edelux than I am with the Luxos. If the Edelux II is indeed an improvement over the original Edelux, then it's likely my Luxos will be seen on fleabay.
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    I've also heard of people having issues when they're installed upside down on the bottom of a front rack.

    In addition, this seems like a nifty device:

    http://shop.tout-terrain.de/The-Plug

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    You can direct commuter light snobs to the URL to a well regarded retailer of MagicShine headlights: Action LED, but you can't make the poor sods actually buy one. Pity, that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leisesturm View Post
    You can direct commuter light snobs to the URL to a well regarded retailer of MagicShine headlights: Action LED, but you can't make the poor sods actually buy one. Pity, that.

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    I would like to consider a purchase, but it's not legal in Germany. And while I may not agree with all of the pedantic laws, I do understand why they exist with respect to beam angle and intensity restrictions. It may be legal in less safety-minded countries though, so feel free to extol its virtues to other potential customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psy View Post
    I've had this light since march and its performed adequately. The beam is nice and bright and has a good spread for sure...but the charging feature is not all its cracked up to be..won't keep up with my s4 atall. Add to that apperantly its only for dry conditions(its not like it wss pouring and I have a bike poncho the partially covered it) and this light gets a total fail from me.
    I expected a lot more from a light at this price point. I've contacted peterwhitecycles about the problem and ill let you guys know how they respond.
    There was something defective with the first batch of lights and the rain. They stopped shipping them for a bit, and said they fixed it with an updated design. Hopefully Peter White will offer to exchange it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acidfast7 View Post
    I would like to consider a purchase, but it's not legal in Germany. And while I may not agree with all of the pedantic laws, I do understand why they exist with respect to beam angle and intensity restrictions. It may be legal in less safety-minded countries though, so feel free to extol its virtues to other potential customers.
    When in Rome... I don't imagine for a minute that German municipalities prevent cyclists from having powerful lights with long run-times and then force them to ride in suburban/semi-rural areas without adequate road infrastructure. I would trade in my MagicShine for a B&M dynamo light in a NY minute to get the kind of riding conditions that prevail in Germany/Western Europe.

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    7 is in UK now so can buy one if he wishes. NY minutes are a fraction of everyone else's ?


    'the plug' is the world's first power supply that is fully integrated into the bike,
    seems PJW no longer imports them, AXA and now B&M jumped in by putting the Rectifier and voltage regulator in a headlight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    7 is in UK now so can buy one if he wishes.
    Only 70% of the time

    I'm fighting to get back into Germany.

    One Max Planck Institute is hiring a bunch of people and my stuff isn't here yet (still in Germany) and I haven't cashed out of my German retirement yet.

    *Also, it's time to have a child and Germany is quite appealing compared to the UK, but both pale in comparison to Scandiland!*
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulRivers View Post
    There was something defective with the first batch of lights and the rain. They stopped shipping them for a bit, and said they fixed it with an updated design. Hopefully Peter White will offer to exchange it.
    This seems to be the case. I received one of the original designs with a plug from the handlbar control Into the light unit.
    Apperanlty this has been redesigned intoa hardwire connection.
    Peterwhitecycles called me first thing this morning and said they would replace it with the new version as soon as I send this one back.. I'm extremely impressed with their customer service and I'm really glad I purchased through them .they have a repeat customer in me for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psy View Post
    This seems to be the case. I received one of the original designs with a plug from the handlbar control Into the light unit.
    Apperanlty this has been redesigned intoa hardwire connection.
    Peterwhitecycles called me first thing this morning and said they would replace it with the new version as soon as I send this one back.. I'm extremely impressed with their customer service and I'm really glad I purchased through them .they have a repeat customer in me for sure.
    he's good for a US-based company ... but you could get the same thing shipped from Germany for less money ... don't forget that you don't pay MwSt (so take 19% off the prices you see!).

    personally, i like him because he's the only US-based dist of some really nice stuff that would be much harder to get for you guys.
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    this light is not that much cheaper from the European discounters, and I would rather have Peter White on my side than trying to get some mail order place in Europe to help me out.

    I put dielectric grease on this connector, and it probably is going to wait to fail until after the warranty expires. I'm conflicted. OTOH, I'm not convinced I want the handlebar switch to be hardwired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unterhausen View Post
    this light is not that much cheaper from the European discounters
    Usually at least 30% cheaper (for example on the light mentioned in this thread). But to each his own, I can understand the hesitation. Also, I usually get them to throw in some extra goodies as well.

    I also find that the German companies offer excellent customer service in English.
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    Not to be a meanie, but meanwhile, my $5 thirty-two LED flashlight from Harbor Freight Tools is still working like a charm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Tom View Post
    Not to be a meanie, but meanwhile, my $5 thirty-two LED flashlight from Harbor Freight Tools is still working like a charm.
    You ever ridden a bike with a proper light? One that has a been shaped like every other vehicle on the road?

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    Every bike ridden on the road should have a dyno head and tailight along with battery backups.
    JMO. Wouldnt go back.

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    When I was shopping for lights, I checked out the European sites. The gear was considerably cheaper, but when you factor in shipping, it was only slightly cheaper. If you have a problem and need to return, any savings would be cancelled out.

    My $25 B&M lumotec IQ fly plus is great. The beam is nice and long and it's plenty bright. It blows away every cheapy light I've tried, there's really no comparison. I wouldn't use it for mountain biking, battery floodlights are still the way to go for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leisesturm View Post
    You can direct commuter light snobs to the URL to a well regarded retailer of MagicShine headlights: Action LED, but you can't make the poor sods actually buy one. Pity, that.

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    Peter White is very good and will take care of you. I think B&M is working very hard at improving their products. They have some improvements to the lastest line. There have been tons of negative reviews and failures of those products. I know some people that have purchased these from Peter and they failed prematurely. They have been overpriced and of generally sub par quality but in time they will get there. I'm glad I decided on Nightrider for my lights because I almost got B&M before I made the comparison. Self contained, no cables, not a single issue in 2 years so far and the quality is just stellar.
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    I simply am not interested in battery powered lights. There have been tons of complaints about magicshine, I'm sure that the failure rate is much higher than that for B&M. I can't imagine gloating about spending so much for so little. And I feel like symmetric optics are irresponsible and I wouldn't ride one on the road unless forced. As far as $5 lights, just wait until the first decent rain and check back. I had a $5 light that died after 30 minutes of rain. I was driving home the next day, noticed some weird light in the back of my car, and it turned out the light had dried out enough to start back up. Thanks, but no thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psy View Post
    This seems to be the case. I received one of the original designs with a plug from the handlbar control Into the light unit.
    Apperanlty this has been redesigned intoa hardwire connection.
    Peterwhitecycles called me first thing this morning and said they would replace it with the new version as soon as I send this one back.. I'm extremely impressed with their customer service and I'm really glad I purchased through them .they have a repeat customer in me for sure.
    Glad to hear it!

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