Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Commuting Bicycle commuting is easier than you think, before you know it, you'll be hooked. Learn the tips, hints, equipment, safety requirements for safely riding your bike to work.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-29-13, 07:00 PM   #1
xtrajack
xtrajack
Thread Starter
 
xtrajack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Maine
Bikes: Kona fire mountain/xtracycle,Univega landrover fs,Nishiki custom sport Ross professional super gran tour Schwinn Mesa (future Xtracycle donor bike)
Posts: 2,058
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Bulls eye jockey wheels worth it???

I saw some Bullseye jockey wheels on the 'bay, starting at about $45. I can get the standard issue plastic/resin ones for about a quarter of that.
Hence, my quandry. Do the Bullseye ones last longer than the OEM ones? Are the Bullseye wheels worth it?

Thanks for your input.

BTW, cross posted in the general subforum.
xtrajack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-13, 08:18 PM   #2
MNTC
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Bikes: 1991 Eddie Merckx Corsa, 1991 Cannondale 3.0 Road Race, 2008 Bianchi Pista
Posts: 212
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have a set, and can't notice a difference between it on an NR and another NR with the stock resin pulleys. I think the elevated prices these days are due to caché. They won't crack, like many resin/plastic pulleys can, but my mentality is that I'll wait for that to happen before I buy new alu pulleys.
MNTC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-13, 09:56 PM   #3
xtrajack
xtrajack
Thread Starter
 
xtrajack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Maine
Bikes: Kona fire mountain/xtracycle,Univega landrover fs,Nishiki custom sport Ross professional super gran tour Schwinn Mesa (future Xtracycle donor bike)
Posts: 2,058
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by moochems View Post
Holy...

I was viewing this thread from a non-logged in perspective. The original post contains the words "last longer" and is hypertext.

I clicked the link and was expecting a link to relevant information to the topic at hand.

instead I get soepmething at search DOT jeaursulam DOT com about lasting longer during intercourse.

What da hell? Does anyone else view such adverts on this forum?

Does my yellow jersey account keep me from usually seeing such?



OP are you talking about the rear derailler pulley wheels? How long does it take you to wear a set out? What happens when they are worn? Do you think the type of chain lube you use makes them wear more quickly?
I didn't link anything, I have noticed similar links when I am not logged in as well. I only click on links that that I can tell were included by the people posting.

I am talking about the rear derailleur pulleys. It generally takes me about two years to wear out a set. When they are worn they get real pointy, and the shifts start getting sloppy. Don't know if the chain lube affects the useful life of the jockey wheels or not.
xtrajack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-13, 10:14 PM   #4
zephyr
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lake Forest, CA
Bikes: Surly crosscheck, Rivendell Atlantis, Ciocc Mockba80, Surly Troll
Posts: 483
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
$45 for Bulls Eye jockey wheels? That's a lot more than the $10 jockey wheels that I buy from velo orange, which have sealed bearings and probably last as long as anything else on the market. I have these on all 4 of my bikes:
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...ey-wheels.html

I just noticed that they are out of stock on this item, but they will probably be available again in the near future.
zephyr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-13, 10:19 PM   #5
loky1179
Senior Member
 
loky1179's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Bikes: 2x Bianchi, 2x Specialized, 3x Schwinns
Posts: 904
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 27 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by xtrajack View Post
I saw some Bullseye jockey wheels on the 'bay, starting at about $45. I can get the standard issue plastic/resin ones for about a quarter of that.
Hence, my quandry. Do the Bullseye ones last longer than the OEM ones? Are the Bullseye wheels worth it?

Thanks for your input.

BTW, cross posted in the general subforum.
Of course they are worth it! They save you enough energy on a 100 mile ride to lift 100 pounds 100 feet! That's what I remember from their marketing campaign 30 years ago, so don't quote me.

On the other hand, if you want to save some money, and STILL get cool looking red pulleys, buy a set of these!

http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/dr-0002.html

EDIT: DOH! Zephyr beat me to the punch.

Edit 2: I guess I linked to a different set of jockey wheels, and mine are in stock!

Last edited by loky1179; 12-29-13 at 10:26 PM.
loky1179 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-13, 10:22 PM   #6
thenomad
Riding like its 1990
 
thenomad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: IE, SoCal
Bikes:
Posts: 3,749
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I've never been riding along and thought: "man, this sure would be easier if I had some better jockey wheels".
Not sure of the advantage.

Now I have thought: "man, I have a few extra bucks to blow; what can I get for my bike?"

So I understand your question.
thenomad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-13, 10:59 PM   #7
chriskmurray
Senior Member
 
chriskmurray's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Colorado Springs
Bikes: Borealis Echo, Ground Up Designs Ti Cross bike, Xtracycle, GT mod trials bike, pixie race machine
Posts: 1,121
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
In the rare cases of broken pulleys it does not apply but in my 6-7 years in bike shops, the ONLY pulleys I have seen worn out were from people that let them get a bunch of gunk built up on them.

Not saying they can not wear out even when properly clean, just that it is extremely rare.

So I personally would not say it is worth it unless you simply want them for aesthetics sake.
chriskmurray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-13, 12:01 PM   #8
fietsbob 
coprolite
 
fietsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Bikes: 7
Posts: 19,561
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 416 Post(s)
Since Bullseye has closed it's doors, they are collector priced ..

I got Tacx sealed bearing pulleys, recently, made in 10 & 11t type. nylon..

bought a set when my suntour SB pulley broke while touring NL in the late 80's.



When they were available I got a set of Carmichael Sealed bearing and Titanium ..

metal pulleys are such that you hear the chain making contact with them..
fietsbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-13, 10:09 PM   #9
CbadRider
Administrator
 
CbadRider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: On the bridge with Picard
Bikes: Specialized Allez, Specialized Sirrus
Posts: 5,963
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by moochems View Post
Holy...

I was viewing this thread from a non-logged in perspective. The original post contains the words "last longer" and is hypertext.

I clicked the link and was expecting a link to relevant information to the topic at hand.

instead I get soepmething at search DOT jeaursulam DOT com about lasting longer during intercourse.

What da hell? Does anyone else view such adverts on this forum?

Does my yellow jersey account keep me from usually seeing such?

Please report this whenever you see it happen by using the Report Post button (exclamation point in a triangle at the bottom left). The links should not be there and Internet Brands has been notified.

CbadRider
Forum Admin
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xerum 525 View Post
Now get on your cheap bike and give me a double century. You walking can of Crisco!!

Forum Guidelines *click here*
CbadRider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-14, 09:55 AM   #10
chaadster
Thread Killer
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Bikes: '15 Kinesis Racelight 4S, '76 Motebecane Gran Jubilée
Posts: 7,785
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 165 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Since Bullseye has closed it's doors, they are collector priced ..

I got Tacx sealed bearing pulleys, recently, made in 10 & 11t type. nylon..

bought a set when my suntour SB pulley broke while touring NL in the late 80's.



When they were available I got a set of Carmichael Sealed bearing and Titanium ..

metal pulleys are such that you hear the chain making contact with them..
Yes, I was going to say that alu pulleys are loud, and that should be considered. Also, one needs to be sure they're not putting fixed bearing pulleys where floating bushing pulleys are spec'd (the upper pulley on some derailleurs).

I've used various aftermarket pulleys over the years, and would say there is probably no good reason to use them other than style or the need to save a few bucks over OEM. That said, I'm not a real high mileage rider (on any one bike) and have never had a problem with pulley wear.
chaadster is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-14, 10:17 AM   #11
ItsJustMe
Señior Member
 
ItsJustMe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Michigan
Bikes: Windsor Fens, Giant Seek 0 (2014, Alfine 8 + discs)
Posts: 13,016
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 33 Post(s)
If you can build a device that can measure the difference in power required to turn the best jockey wheel versus the average one, you should definitely have a job in electronic sensor technology, because you're really good at detecting ridiculously low values.

I put a set of jockey wheels that I printed on my old hybrid just for fun last year. They seem about as good as anything else. They use 50 cent ball bearings bought off ebay, so I'd guess they cost me about 75 cents each.
__________________
Work: the 8 hours that separates bike rides.
ItsJustMe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-14, 10:48 AM   #12
FBinNY 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
Posts: 29,659
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 216 Post(s)
RD pulleys usually wear out at the rim faster than at the bearing, so that's the determining factor. IME the life of various pulleys is within a narrow band, best to worst. So even if premium pulleys last longer, they most likely won't last long enough to justify the price difference. In the case of the Bulls Eyes do you really believe they might last 4 times as long as a cheap set?

OTOH- if you're interested in cool factor, then they may well be worth the cost.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site

An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.

“Never argue with an idiot. He will only bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.”, George Carlin

“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN

WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FBinNY is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:35 PM.