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Old 02-03-14, 03:00 PM   #26
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I'm not surprised that Orange Seal outperformed all the others by a wide margin.

Nevertheless, running tubeless sealant in a tube is an absolutely ridiculous notion. lmfao
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Old 02-07-14, 12:36 AM   #27
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I am definitely NOT in the camp that loves tire liners. I tried some, they worked great for a couple hundred miles before they cut a hole in the tube. I installed them properly, even covered the ends with tape.
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Old 02-08-14, 12:07 AM   #28
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Sometimes there are situations where tire liners are the only solution in beefing up a flat prone tire.

I've recently changed to Maxxis Detonator tires which are a perfect fit for my type of riding and commute, but are notorious for flats because of the very soft compound. Since I'm overweight, I have to run these tires at maximum pressure (100 psi) which means that any type of slime solution is out of the question, so I'm looking at installing tire liners.

Would this type of setup work, or would I end up having more flat's because of the edges of the liners?
Back when I was 210 pounds I used to run tire liners with cheap tires. I don't recall getting more than a flat or two because of the liners (think I got the tube pinched) and my flat incidents from roadside debris went WAY down. I didn't even sand the edges on mine (but you should), but I did hold them in place with a bit of duct tape at each end. As mentioned, it takes a little finesse and learning to get everything in place in the tire.

I weigh more than that now, but have moved on to expensive tires with the flat protection built in (Panaracer T-Serv Pro-Tex's and Vittoria Randoneur Pros), but am tempted to remount the Mr. Tuffy's to get the rest of the life out of a couple of tires that started to get flats because they got sore tore up from all the tiny sharp rocks and shards of glass.

I don't know how much they cost in Greece, but I seem to recall Mr. Tuffy's going for less 10 dollars for a set. IMO worth a try with your tires.
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Old 02-08-14, 05:25 AM   #29
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I have had a few flats lately. It only takes me 5-10 minutes to replace a tube, and I carry spares, but it is irritating. I'm wondering, therefore, about tire liners. What are the pros and cons? I ride 700-25 Paselas.
Try switching to Panaracer T-servs or Pasela PTs (new name for Pasela Tourguards).
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Old 02-08-14, 07:20 PM   #30
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They work
But you do have to round the right angle edges(scissors)-and tape the edges and ends
I use duck tape
and you have to get the hang of reinstalling tubes-and pushing the liners to re-center them.

For those who say they don't work-gotta ask WHY?
If the answer is the sharp edge and ends- DUH- no kidding!!
Tape them-fabric rim tape-old fashion 1st aid tape-or duck tape or even package tape -gotta take the edge off them-and tape them

Tire Liners: Personal experience, as well as many friends.

Sing Praises IF - Tires are FAT, Pressures are LOW (less than 50-60 psi), Tubes are THICK (aka heavy duty/thorn proof).

Scream CURSES IF - Tires are SKINNY, Pressures are HIGH (more than 80-90 psi), Tubes are THIN (aka road/light weight).


Tube sealants: Personal experience, as well as many friends.

​Pretty much same as above.
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Old 02-09-14, 09:44 AM   #31
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Tire Liners: Personal experience, as well as many friends.

Sing Praises IF - Tires are FAT, Pressures are LOW (less than 50-60 psi), Tubes are THICK (aka heavy duty/thorn proof).

Scream CURSES IF - Tires are SKINNY, Pressures are HIGH (more than 80-90 psi), Tubes are THIN (aka road/light weight).


Tube sealants: Personal experience, as well as many friends.

​Pretty much same as above.
AHHHHH- that certainly fits my very positive experience-several years-maybe 15,000 miles.
I use 2.1 and 1.95 tires-generally running 60 psi-but between weekly pumpings drops to 40 psi-so 50 psi- DEAD ON.
Now I use normal tubes-occasionally ones that are "light"-meaning 150 grams or so 26"'-
But your explanation-sure fits my good experience with then-and yes I have had some suspicious flats that might have been from the sharp edged vinyl if it wasn't taped well

I have used a "puncture resistant" michelin or maybe schalbe(sic) didn't seem to work any better than normal tires-this was pre tire liner
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