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Old 02-01-14, 09:38 AM   #1
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Has anybody tried these fenders?

Has anybody used these? They don't have struts to keep them from rattling and that worries me for an almost full fender, especially in the front with only a single attachment point. The rear clips at the brake and the seat tube so that should be OK.

The price is right. You really can't beat that. I've ordered from this shop before on ebay too. Plus they're pretty local to me so shipping is quick. Why are almost all online shops located out west?

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Old 02-01-14, 10:18 AM   #2
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Not sufficient coverage , and without struts they will be less than secure ..

Explain why do you feel a need for removable mudguards..
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Where did I say I had a need for removable mudguards? And I'm not riding in the snow, mud or downpours, or even the steady drizzle of the PNW. Just for the occasional rain that may happen in the afternoon when I'm about to head home.

But yes, the lack of struts is my concern.
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Has anybody used these?
they are mass produced so someone buys them .


I use wide SKS myself .. full length , allow enough space for a bit of snow underneath ..

and a set of Planet Bike Polycarbonate 20" for my Bike Friday, I replicated their mounting scheme with aluminum Flatbar and Pop rivets then got a set of paired Stainless steel wire struts
welded up with tabs I put rubber grommets in to isolate the machine screws

so vibration wouldn't crack the plastic around the bolts ..


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Where did I say I had a need for removable mudguards?
thats what you show they may be left on , if you want ..

is there peer support to shop ? go for it ..

maybe the mounting scheme is not perfect, but with a little effort you could make it better ..

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Old 02-01-14, 02:10 PM   #5
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Those Avenir fenders don't get good reviews, and yes they look the same. I don't want a problem, just something to keep me dryer when I get caught.

And yes, consumer product reviews have become a standard practice, with Amazon leading the way. Why buy something that is crap?
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I put a set of almost exactly the same fenders on my first commuter. First ride in the rain,down a steep hill,and water came up off the front into me and roostertailed onto my back. Went back to the shop the next day and got a proper set of full fenders. I'll use a rear spray guard on around town bikes that I don't ride in the rain as a just-in-case,but for rain bikes I only use full fenders.
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Old 02-02-14, 06:41 AM   #7
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I decided on the PB hardcore MTB fenders. Full coverage and struts. My kids gave me a $100 gift card for REI for my bday so I'll get them there. They supposedly have them local in the store.
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Old 02-02-14, 10:07 AM   #8
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I decided on the PB hardcore MTB fenders. Full coverage and struts. My kids gave me a $100 gift card for REI for my bday so I'll get them there. They supposedly have them local in the store.
Take a look at the PB Cascadias, same mounting system but a much longer flexible rubber mud flap. The only other difference I can see is the Cascadia appears to have a flatter cross section profile, the Hardcore is more rounded. I have Cascadias on my beater, they fit very well and work great.
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Old 02-02-14, 11:20 AM   #9
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I think the set you are looking at are the ones on my 850, but I think I got them from REI. You can get longer, higher quality fenders for more money, but they are okay for the dough. They don't rattle either.
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NB: there is no real benefit to your feet or blowing wheel spray at the drivetrain from your front tire,

with such a short front mudguard...
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Old 02-02-14, 04:11 PM   #11
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I checked out the PB Hardcore fenders at REI, and no dice. They're just too big. Maybe I'll just do without them.
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Old 02-03-14, 04:59 AM   #12
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Right in the same price range is the SKS Velo series. They have a similar attachment, are longer, look better and have optional stays. I use them on my Hunq because I can remove them easily to run 2 1/2" knobbies for single tracking. They don't rattle, I do use the stay on the front fender mainly because it looked weird without. I use the Velo 55 model, they make two narrower and one wider. They hold paint well also.



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The price isn't so great because they don't do a very good job. Just get grown-up fenders, I say.
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Old 02-21-14, 10:30 PM   #14
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I bought a pair of Planet Bike clip on MTB size fenders today and put them on the bike. I'm not sure they'll do the trick when it is really raining, but seem to be enough to ride on wet road in a light rain or go through puddles. That's all I really need. I went back to REI thinking I would just buy the Hardcore set but saw these. They look pretty much like in OddJob2's photo above.
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Right in the same price range is the SKS Velo series. They have a similar attachment, are longer, look better and have optional stays. I use them on my Hunq because I can remove them easily to run 2 1/2" knobbies for single tracking. They don't rattle, I do use the stay on the front fender mainly because it looked weird without. I use the Velo 55 model, they make two narrower and one wider. They hold paint well also.



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Hey... I'm glad you posted this. I got a Hunqapillar last fall, and because I ordered Big Ben tires, I have very little clearance because of the centre pull cantilever brakes. The front is manageable, but the back is almost too tight. I ended up buying a similar pair of cheap fenders that the OP asked about, and cutting the rear one so that it only really extends from the brake to the back of the rack.

Did you have the same problem, or do you have enough clearance to run the back fender all the way through?

I also thought of getting these Red Devil wooden fenders precisely because they could be cut and then mounted, but the thought of paying almost US $200 and then cutting them and then hoping I could securely mount them was a bit too much to contemplate.

http://www.woodysfenders.com/store/i...roducts_id=296

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Old 02-22-14, 03:45 AM   #16
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Hey... I'm glad you posted this. I got a Hunqapillar last fall, and because I ordered Big Ben tires, I have very little clearance because of the centre pull cantilever brakes. The front is manageable, but the back is almost too tight. I ended up buying a similar pair of cheap fenders that the OP asked about, and cutting the rear one so that it only really extends from the brake to the back of the rack.

Did you have the same problem, or do you have enough clearance to run the back fender all the way through?

I also thought of getting these Red Devil wooden fenders precisely because they could be cut and then mounted, but the thought of paying almost US $200 and then cutting them and then hoping I could securely mount them was a bit too much to contemplate.

http://www.woodysfenders.com/store/i...roducts_id=296

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I just switched from canti to v-brake on my bike, and now I have no problems with clearance for either my fenders or my brake bolt mounted light. The only thing I had to do to accommodate the v-brakes was to clip the back fender to the back of the brake bolt hole (no brake is actually attached there) because the clip got in the way of the cross cable. The clip is meant to clip on to the brake bridge, but only narrow ones. Mine is oversized. The fender itself is completely clear of the brake.
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I just switched from canti to v-brake on my bike, and now I have no problems with clearance for either my fenders or my brake bolt mounted light. The only thing I had to do to accommodate the v-brakes was to clip the back fender to the back of the brake bolt hole (no brake is actually attached there) because the clip got in the way of the cross cable. The clip is meant to clip on to the brake bridge, but only narrow ones. Mine is oversized. The fender itself is completely clear of the brake.
Thanks. I thought about doing the same. The bike is still really new, so I'm a little reluctant to start changing components, although that might be easiest. These are the clearances I have to work with (front and back respectively), and if I were to put in some fenders, I'd likely to have to cut them and then use some sort of offset bridging hardware.



I saw this on the web (photo not mine), but I'm not even sure it would work given the centre pull brake on my bike.

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Hey... I'm glad you posted this. I got a Hunqapillar last fall, and because I ordered Big Ben tires, I have very little clearance because of the centre pull cantilever brakes. The front is manageable, but the back is almost too tight. I ended up buying a similar pair of cheap fenders that the OP asked about, and cutting the rear one so that it only really extends from the brake to the back of the rack.

Did you have the same problem, or do you have enough clearance to run the back fender all the way through?

I also thought of getting these Red Devil wooden fenders precisely because they could be cut and then mounted, but the thought of paying almost US $200 and then cutting them and then hoping I could securely mount them was a bit too much to contemplate.

http://www.woodysfenders.com/store/i...roducts_id=296

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I just put 50mm Big Ben's on my Hunq and they fit without a problem. The larger ones may be tight. My Schwalbe Alberts are 55mm with full knobbie tread and I have to remove the rear fender to use them. The clearance problem. A PM is coming your way about some specific photos.

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After a second look at your photo, you might want to use a longer straddle wire and raise the yoke on those brakes a bit. Just above the top of the bridge will work and you should still have enough travel for the brakes.

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If you go with v-brakes, you'll need new levers also. At least from the other photo it looks like it has separate bar-end shifters so you won't need to also replace those. My v-brake upgrade was an endless cycle of incompatible parts.
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I was out today with the bike and fenders and they kept me dry. It's a warm day here after all the snow and there is snow melt everywhere. I wouldn't want to be riding behind though, the roostertail was pretty big.
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After a second look at your photo, you might want to use a longer straddle wire and raise the yoke on those brakes a bit. Just above the top of the bridge will work and you should still have enough travel for the brakes.
Hmmm... a longer straddle wire might just work. It could also be the cheapest and easiest solution. I have 55 mm Big Bens. Not a lot of room!
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