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old's'cool 02-14-14 05:56 PM

FWIW, here is a direct quote from the Illinois 2013 Rules of the Road [page 40], which I find quite amazing.
Quote:

If a motorist is turning right and a bicyclist is approaching on the right, let the bicyclist go through the intersection first before making a right turn.

Giant Doofus 02-14-14 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old's'cool (Post 16496937)
FWIW, here is a direct quote from the Illinois 2013 Rules of the Road [page 40], which I find quite amazing.

Interesting. I'll have to look at TN law to see if we have anything like that.

What happened today was a little different from this situation where a rider is "approaching." There was a line of traffic slowly moving along a busy street. The light for the next significant intersection was maybe 200 yards ahead. The guy ahead of me was turning right onto a side street. I was directly behind him, having taken the lane because there were cars parked over on the right. I think the advice above about ignoring him might have been my best approach. At the time, I was confused about what I should do and ended up going on around him on the right. I won't make that mistake again. In his defense, I should say that I think he was just trying to be nice.

Motolegs 02-14-14 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caloso (Post 16493649)
The longer I do this, the better I get at reading cars' "body language." There's usually a tell.

That's the key to survival. Observation. Many if not most drivers are suffering from a serious disconnect. From the road, reality, computers, whatever. They have no real idea what damage their cars can cause. On a bike, you HAVE to read all drivers you run across.

FenderTL5 02-15-14 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giant Doofus (Post 16497082)
Interesting. I'll have to look at TN law to see if we have anything like that.

It does it's on page 104, under the heading "Sharing the Road with Bicycles":
"If your vehicle is turning right and a bicyclist is approaching on the right, let the bicyclist go through the
intersection first before making a right turn. Remember to
always signal your turns. "

link to PDF version of manual

Giant Doofus 02-15-14 08:41 AM

Thank you, FenderTL5.

old's'cool 02-15-14 07:51 PM

When I'm about to overtake on the right a motorist that is signalling a right turn, I deliberately take the lane behind the motorist, and pass him/her on their left, as they make the turn.


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