b.d.gauge

Correct. I have no expectation that I could get the type of frame I'm looking for for a couple or few hundred bucks. (If so, all the better, but I'm not counting on it!)

alan s 

Without reading through pages of bike catalogs, could you point out where it says the Tout Terrain will fit a low q-factor crank in the range the OP is looking for? Great frame, BTW, if not a little pricey.

mtndragon

+1. I have an Ogre, and my girlfriend commutes on a Troll. Sounds like it ticks most of the boxes except your skinny tire desire.

acidfast7

TT comes equipped with Middleburn cranks, which are very low Q-factor.



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can't go wrong

fietsbob

and the $600 frames, In NH are the older pre Belt drive capable ones .. a close out deal

Peter W just gets frames and forks , AF7 is talking about the other side of the Ocean

and the German sources ,more directly. ..

acidfast7

nope

so much for the esoteric argument ... you can buy a tout terrain at an ACE HARDWARE store.

I $hit you not:

fietsbob

sounds like as good combination business , I expect bike sales in Idaho Is real slow

when there is a meter or 2 of snow on the ground, but people still need to fix things all winter..
so the hardware store is a good combine.

acidfast7

actually, it's seems that that particular ace store is quite active in the cycling community.

i knew about Joe's before.

so, there are several options in the US. just call them up and have them ship it out

fietsbob

I have my WTR paid for and woking fine , you tout tout but prefer a Self Proclaimed BSO ,

and are an international educator with a degree or 2 more than I , after you ..

acidfast7

I keep my expenses and commitments low in the UK. I'm not sure it's a long-term deal. I'd rather be back on the continent

Let's see how that goes!

fietsbob

You get a Bike to work scheme going for you like our Serbian fellow?

Andy_K 

I just drove by Joe Bike in Portland this weekend. I don't think I knew they were there before that.

Sure enough, they have a Tout Terrain bike: Tout Terrain Metropolitan | Joe Bike

They say they're "simultaneously humbled and ensmuggened to be one of North America’s only Tout Terrain dealers." Nice.

b.d.gauge

Save for that one requirement, I agree, it looks like a great frame, and I've read lots of good things about it.

b.d.gauge

They are certainly nice cranks - I've seen them before and they look great. I'd prefer just a frame, though, as I already have other components I could use - and yes, those cranks would, I suppose, suggest the Tout Terrain frame can accept narrower cranks.

b.d.gauge

Ha! So much for exclusivity.